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Pantlegz

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So, I was measuring myself for the first time in about 2 months and the results are kind of sad I've only cut 1/2 an inch off my waist and my weight has basically plateaued at 220 its dropping slowly VERY slowly. I think both of these are do to the lack of cardio(running) I've been doing lately, nonetheless it's discouraging. Although I feel like I'm in the best shape I've been in in years, I know I've stronger than I've been in about 5 years, I still look similar. I think I'm going to start mma training again this weekend, I shouldn't have stopped I like it much more than running but, I think I'm going to run again as well... Basically any free time I have I want to be doing something physical rather than sitting around.
 
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Originally posted by: Pantlegz1
So, I was measuring myself for the first time in about 2 months and the results are kind of sad I've only cut 1/2 an inch off my waist and my weight has basically plateaued at 220 its dropping slowly VERY slowly. I think both of these are do to the lack of cardio(running) I've been doing lately, nonetheless it's discouraging. Although I feel like I'm in the best shape I've been in in years, I know I've stronger than I've been in about 5 years, I still look similar. I think I'm going to start mma training again this weekend, I shouldn't have stopped I like it much more than running but, I think I'm going to run again as well... Basically any free time I have I want to be doing something physical rather than sitting around.

Well, like you said, you were eating quite a bit. It's hard to cut with calories that high. If you do cardio, it's gonna make you want to eat even more. You've gotta find the right diet that works for you - makes you feel mostly full and is under caloric maintenance. I know it's disappointing, but this is part of the road to transformation. All you gotta do is change what you know is going sub-optimally and continue toward progress. Half an inch is nothing to scoff at and the strength gains you had are superb. Remember that.
 

Pantlegz

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yea I know the cardio is going to make me more hungry. I wasn't eating more just because I was hungry, I could have ignored that, it was the 5 lbs I dropped over a weekend that caused me to reverse my diet for about a week. Maybe I am expecting too much too soon, but it seems like I'm working really hard and not making big improvements. I guess I was expecting more, I feel like I've lost a lot more that I have and my belt keeps getting tighter and tighter I've actually gotten rid of all but 2 pairs of my old pants because even with a belt they were too baggy. I guess I'll see how I feel about it when I do all my measurements Tuesday it may help put things into perspective. Until then I'm just going to keep working my ass off. Thanks for the support

Also Ran 1.5 miles after class, 13:30 which isn't shabby considering my old times and the length of time it's been since I've ran. I'm going to try to keep the cardio more MMA and less running as long as neither impacts my Strong Lifts routines.
 

Pantlegz

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Squats: 230x6x5 I realized 1/2 through the 6th set that I already did 5 but I kept going anyway...
OH Press: 105x5x5
Dead Lift: 230x2x5
Chin ups: 4 4 3
Prone bridges 3x40 seconds

keeping the squat weight down on these days helps a lot with the DL, I think I could do more just want to keep my form good would hate to have back problems because shitty form. Other than that everything is progressing good.
 

Pantlegz

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Squats: 285x5x5
Bench: 185x5x5
push ups: 20 20 15
lat pulldowns:140x3x10
reverse crunches: 3x12

Today was the first day I felt like I really had to push myself to complete everything, the last 2 reps on the last 2 sets of squats were hard as hell. The last few reps of bench press were decently hard. But somehow I managed quite a few more push ups. All in all a decent day, feels good to finally have to push to get through a workout

On a side note which would be better for squats going all the way down or heavier squats where I go at least parallel?
 
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As for the squat ROM thing, I try to just go slightly past parallel. If I'm doing a recovery day, I will go as low as I possibly can to work on flexibility and form. I know you're on a linear program right now so I'd say just for slightly past parallel, but make sure you make it there. Some people swear they're going to parallel and they're not getting anywhere close. Nice job though, man
 

Pantlegz

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haha there are a few 'bodybuilder' type guys that go to my gym that were giving me shit for going so low, then they went on to say they work their legs like once a month. I just judge it based on the mirror in front of me, if it gets heavy sometimes I will stop at parallel and not go below.

I think the running this week is what made it squats harder this time around, so I may hold off running if it continues to be a problem.
 

brikis98

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Squat so that the crease of your hips is below your knee joint when seen from the side. This is usually when the top (NOT the bottom!) of your thigh is parallel to the ground. If you're training for o-lifting, it may be good to practice ATG squats, but for general strength training, making it just below parallel is usually good enough.
 
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Originally posted by: Pantlegz1
haha there are a few 'bodybuilder' type guys that go to my gym that were giving me shit for going so low, then they went on to say they work their legs like once a month. I just judge it based on the mirror in front of me, if it gets heavy sometimes I will stop at parallel and not go below.

I think the running this week is what made it squats harder this time around, so I may hold off running if it continues to be a problem.

Really? That's terrible. I've heard of a lot of bodybuilders going ATG and not doing any other type of squat. Weird. To be perfectly honest, I try not to look at the mirror so I can improve my proprioception and kinesthesia so I know where my body is and stuff. I sometimes close my eyes even. It's very interesting. It lets you test things you don't test often.

Also, I notice that running the day before really hurts my lifting. My muscles feel sore and strained. I don't know if you adapt more as you continue doing it, but it's hard for me to balance cardio and lifting when going for max strength gain. Guess I may have to balance strength and cardio a bit more and lower the weights.
 

Pantlegz

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from looking at ATG form, and some youtube videos I would say I'm close to it if not hitting it every rep. I have shorter legs for a 6' guy so maybe it's easier for me? I'll pay better attention to how far down I'm going with light weight to gauge it better but I'm fairly sure that I'm ATG or very close.

I agree the advice they gave me was terrible, I guess they might fit into the muscle head tool category more than bodybuilder. They're huge but I just see them curl and bench basically the whole time I'm in the gym. I'll try to not look in the mirror once I'm more comfortable with my form because I still notice little things in the mirror and correct it while I'm lifting.
 

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I have many times had the bar hit the power rack while i tried to go as low as I could. You know the part of the power rack thats horizontal that I always guessed was a safety in case someone's legs gave out completely, it would catch the barbell? I'm pretty flexible I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong. Def. going past parallel, but not literally ATG. Not sure how literally the ATG thing is supposed to be taken.
 
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Originally posted by: KingGheedora
I have many times had the bar hit the power rack while i tried to go as low as I could. You know the part of the power rack thats horizontal that I always guessed was a safety in case someone's legs gave out completely, it would catch the barbell? I'm pretty flexible I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong. Def. going past parallel, but not literally ATG. Not sure how literally the ATG thing is supposed to be taken.

ATG is literally your ass to your calves. I don't think Pantlegz is actually doing that and most people don't. That's probably best because most people don't operate in that ROM. The people who do it most often are Olympic lifters because it's part of their skill set.
 

brikis98

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One warning about deep squatting: unless you're incredibly flexible, it's very hard to actually get that deep (ass to ankles) while still maintaining a proper lumbar arch. Most people who try end up letting their backs go loose and allow their butt to roll under, which not only opens you up to back injuries, but also reduces your ability to engage your hamstrings (since they lose tension). Unless you have excellent proprioception (which is tough to develop if you rely on mirrors) you might not even know you're doing it. Therefore, the typical recommendation is (1) have someone knowledgeable watch you or record yourself to check your back arch and (2) go as low as you can while still keeping a safe & effective lumbar arch, which for most people is (at most) just below parallel. Of course, if you have crazy flexible hamstrings, hips and ankles, then all the more power to you - squat deep and often, and you'll be strong as hell.
 

Pantlegz

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Squats: 285x2x5 235x3x5
OH Press: 90x5x5
Dead Lift: 315x2x5
Chin ups: 4, 3, 3
Prone bridges 45 35 45 seconds

I'm not sure why I did so many DL's got into the 5x5 routine for a sec. Then I decided to see if I could kill myself by doing heavy squats right after that. After the second set I was beat, my legs were rubber but I managed a few light sets. Prone bridges are getting very easy, the first 2 I was just aiming for 30 seconds but I don't keep very good time.

Noticed that today I wasn't getting as low on the squats, and it's physically impossible for me to get my ass on the ground but mid calf is doable. I guess I have shorter femurs, I dunno. i'll try to get pics up soon, I'm busy as hell today and probably most of the week
 

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Squats: 285x5x5
Bench: 185x5x5
push ups: 25 22 16
lat pulldowns:140x3x10
reverse crunches: 3x12

My back was still a little sore from Tuesdays workout so I kept the squats light, I should have upped the bench tho not sure why I didn't. I'll see what I can do about getting some updated pics this weekend maybe. My weight is still plateaued at 220 going to drop 200 cal a day for a few weeks and see how that works since running is a bad idea at this point.
 

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Squats: 245x3x5
OH Press: 95x5x5
Dead Lift: 320x2x5
pull ups: 4, 3, 3
Prone bridges 45 60 60 seconds

Found out doing DL's first is a bad idea, not warmed up and my grip was pathetic Squats were good, made sure to get ALL the way down paid very close attention to form and did my best to not look in the mirror. seem to have stalled with chin/pull ups but they're getting better. Prone bridges are getting much easier, going to try to hit all 3 for a min next time.
 

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Squats: 290x5x5
Bench: 190x5x5
push ups: 20 20 16
lat pulldowns:140x3x10
reverse crunches: 3x12

Decent day in the gym, moved all my weights up, my push ups were a little weak. I was pushing the pace quite a bit towards the end, dont' know why I wans't in too much of a hurry. Also I got a spotter for the last set of bench press and it was so much easier, I guess it was a mental thing I dunno. I'll see it it works from now on, lol.

Also got pics to update, just one. I'll get it up later to see if anyone else thinks I haven't made much progress, honestly looking at the pic I see little to no difference

Updated pics after ~ a month in the gym
http://yfrog.com/671monthunflexed2p - front unflexed
http://yfrog.com/671monthunflexedp - and again

There the pics are, I notice a lot more in these that my right peck is much bigger and more defined than the left. Hopefully I can get them to look similar because in those pics it looks ridiculous
 

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Squats: 250x5x5
OH Press: 105x5x5
Dead Lift: 315x2x5
pull ups: 0
Prone bridges 3x60 seconds

didn't get any pull ups in, for some reason the gym was packed today and everyone seemed to want on the power rack. Also dropped the DL weight down since I had issues with my grip last time, I'll shoot for 320 again next time around.
 

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Squats: 295x5x5
Bench: 195x5x5
push ups: 3x20
lat pulldowns:140x3x10
reverse crunches: 3x12

Today was great, everything went smooth aside from failing the last rep of my 4th set of squats. I was kind of having second thoughts about the 5th set but it went ok, I guess I got down a little too low and wasn't able to get it back up also finally got 3x20 push ups today, it was mini goal I had for myself. Going to bump the lat pulldown weight up some next time too.

speaking of goals, I'm moving my squat goal down to 315x5x5 I lost a lot more strength in my legs than I thought also, weighed myself this morning came in at 217.5 I think 210 will be easy to hit before the end of the year, I'll do a real cut early next year I think.
 

Pantlegz

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Squats: 255x5x5
OH Press: 115x5x5
Dead Lift: 225x1x5 315x1x5 335x1x5
pull ups: 3x4
Prone bridges 3x60 seconds

did some warm up DL's today to see if it helped any, I think it may have a little. I'm pretty sore tho, over all it was a good workout. Going to go for 1 RM squat Thursday for the squat competition think I should be able to hit 350 at least
 

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So I'm thinking of upping my workout, and adding some crossfit in at least a few days a week. Any suggestions on how I should start to implement this? Just add one day a week try it for a few weeks, then add another until I'm only off 2 days a week? Should I stay with Stronglifts, or go to another lifting program? Any other ideas/suggestions?

The gym I go to doesn't have a ton of equipment, but I think I could do most of the exercises there or maybe modify them a little for what I have access to.
 

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Originally posted by: Pantlegz1
So I'm thinking of upping my workout, and adding some crossfit in at least a few days a week. Any suggestions on how I should start to implement this? Just add one day a week try it for a few weeks, then add another until I'm only off 2 days a week? Should I stay with Stronglifts, or go to another lifting program? Any other ideas/suggestions?

The gym I go to doesn't have a ton of equipment, but I think I could do most of the exercises there or maybe modify them a little for what I have access to.

You need to add it in VERY VERY gradually. Most people are not prepared for the intensity of a typical Crossfit workout and if you just jump into it, you're very likely to get hurt (check out the free article on Crossfit induced rhabdo). Here are a few suggestions:

* Read the entire Crossfit FAQ
* Watch the exercise demos/videos as there are probably a lot of new movements you don't know how to do.
* No matter how easy the workouts look, you should DEFINITELY scale them for at least the first week (and in most cases, for far longer). You can see scaled versions of each day's workout on the Crossfit BrandX message board.
* Don't pick and choose which Crossfit workouts to do. If it comes up on the site, just do it. Otherwise, you'll remove a lot of the variety that makes CF effective. Worse yet, you're likely to avoid workouts with exercises you don't like or know how to do: the problem is that these are likely where you have weaknesses and need the most work!

Having said all that, I can suggest several options for how to include CF in your routine:

1. Just do purely Crossfit. This will give you the best idea of whether CF is something you want to do. If you're worried about strength, it's worth knowing that not only do the metcon style workouts build strength in newcomers, but also that on average, there is at least one "max effort" strength workout per week, sometimes more. For example, today's WoD is "Thruster 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 reps", which is a purely there to build strength. Just remember that the main site does a 3 on, 1 off schedule, which is way too much for most beginners. It's a better idea to start with something like a 1 on, 1 off or 2 on, 1 off schedule and work your way up slowly.

2. Find a mix of CF days and strength days. The simplest variety is to just keep doing SL 5x5 and add in one day of Crossfit a week (perhaps on the weekends). Another option is to repeat a 2 on, 1 off schedule:

Day 1: SL 5x5
Day 2: CF
Day 3: rest

3. Use a hybrid Crossfit routine that mixes strength training and Crossfit together. This is usually best for intermediate/advanced trainees. One option is the "Max Effort Black Box" (MEBB) routine: you can read a rough write-up here and buy the full articles from performance menu. Another popular (semi-official) version is "Crossfit Strength Bias" (CFSB): you can see a rough write-up here and read the full article in the Crossfit Journal (subscription required). I personally do a routine similar to CFSB that includes more o-lifts, which you can read about on my blog.
 

Pantlegz

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Awesome links thanks a ton, figured you would have a good bit of information for me

Squats: 225x1x5 300x2x5 315x1x5 365x1x1
Bench: 200x5x5
push ups: 3x20
lat pulldowns:150x3x10
reverse crunches: 3x12

Pretty happy with my squat progression, it's sad that my lower back is holding me back so much... I think I could have done more that 365 I actually wasn't happy with my first rep(didn't quite get below parallel) so I did another. I also need to learn to control coming up better, sometimes even with the 365 I explode up and had the weight bounce a little which I'm sure isn't good... I'm also noticing more and more that I'm getting thinner which is good, I still feel I've got a ways to go and hopefully adding crossfit in at some point will speed that up a little.
 

Pantlegz

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shitty day in the gym today. Was busy earlier so I figured I'd just go in late but still get everything done, little did I know they gym closes at 6 on saturday so I only did about 1/2 my workout. I may try to get in tomorrow but I don't know.

Squats: 260x5x5
OH Press: 115x5x5
Dead Lift: 225x2x5
 

Pantlegz

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Squats: 305x5x5
Bench: 205x5x5
push ups: 2x20 1x15
lat pulldowns:150x3x10
reverse crunches: 3x12

For some reason the lat pull downs and push ups were hell today, neither went as well as they had the previous week or 2. But the squats went really well, not sure what was up with that.
 
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