PCI Express for AMD

[Confusednewbie1552]

When will there be PCI Express for AMD Athlon 64/FX? Also when is Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4?

 

[us3rnotfound]

when my sh1t turns purple

 

[us3rnotfound]

and smells like rainbow sherbert.

 

[Confusednewbie1552]

When would that be?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Confusednewbie1552
When would that be?

after he eats a bag of fat free Wow potato chips that have been fried in Oleans

 

[ForsakenMaster]

Translation...... who knows.

 

[3LEMENT0]

Originally posted by: Confusednewbie1552
When will there be PCI Express for AMD Athlon 64/FX? Also when is Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4?

IMO AMD will release a PCI express when there's a large improvement going from AGP to PCI express. Currently games and vid cards doesn't seem to need it right away...

Jan-Mar Q1, Apr-Jun Q2, Jul-Sept Q3, Oct-Dec Q4.


You can search for it, PCI express has been discussed a couple of times around....

 

[Confusednewbie1552]

Ok thanx 3lement0. I am making a new comp and I will be using the comp for 3 years and will AGp still be around in like a year and a half when i want to upgrade my video card? Does anyone here even recommened PCI Express?

 

[Confusednewbie1552]

Is there a Q5?

 

[3LEMENT0]

No Q5 that I know of, but AGP will be around for a very long time.....there's not that much need to switch to PCI express right now anyways, maybe for the high end users such as video editors, animation, 3d developers, etc. etc. but for the lay people there's no need really....

 

[SneakyStuff]

See that's the thing, Intel thinks it's gonna hammer AMD because they've got PCI-E boards out already, but unfortunately for them, PCI-E vid. cards are far and few

 

[CraigRT]

I was wondering also.. cause I wouldn't mind at least having PCI express just incase, so I might wait and see at least before I do my next upgrade.
thnking a dual rig now ... heh

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

nvidia has a motherboard pci express coming out for amd around september or so

coincidentally around the time the pci-ex cards become available not that there is any advantage currently

i just ordered my ati x800xt platinum 8x agp card and i am haaaapppy for only 435 to my door yeahahahahahahahah

sorry had a hardware upgrade moment there

 

[Confusednewbie1552]

Early spetember? I'm getting a new comp and I can wait at the latest being late august, but if pci express comes in early September then I wouldn't mind waiting a few days. I heard something that via was going to put pci express on their boards or something I don't know it had something about via and pci express.

 

[imported_chrisbtx]

Reguarding the Q1, Q2, Q3... 3LEMENT0 said it right, but just to get rid of any confusion you might have left, it refers to the quarters of the year (12 months in a year, divide by 4 since it's being done by quarters) You end up 3 months equals 1 quarter. So, like he said:

Quarter 1 of the year is January, February, and March
Quarter 2 of the year is April, May, and June
so on and so forth...

if there were a quarter 5 you would need more than 12 months in a year or that would go into the next year, because you can't really have 5 fourths in a year.

Hope that clears things up....

 

[paperfist]

Originally posted by: Confusednewbie1552
Early spetember? I'm getting a new comp and I can wait at the latest being late august, but if pci express comes in early September then I wouldn't mind waiting a few days. I heard something that via was going to put pci express on their boards or something I don't know it had something about via and pci express.

By the looks of things so far PCI-E doesn't offer anything AGP can't already provide...yet.
I don't think we'll see any impact till PCI-E video cards go native and not just AGP based PCI-E cards with some sort of bridge. So that'll happen in 6 months when ATi & nVidia put out their refresh cards at the earliest.

 

[Matthias99]

AMD doesn't make chipsets or motherboards; there will be AMD-based boards with PCI-E when the chipset makers (VIA/NVIDIA/SiS) and motherboard manufacturers (ASUS/MSI/DFI/Chaintech/Shuttle/etc.) decide to make them. Most likely within the next six months?

 

[jacktesterson]

Recent Tom's Hardware article had the XT800 AGP 8x card performing better than the PCI-E

 

[mikecel79]

PCI-E is so much more than just a connector for video cards. It's a totally new scalable bus. Kinda like the jump from PCI to ISA. It's more bandwith for the entire bus, not just video cards. Eventually you will start to see things that use a lot of bandwith like gigabit NICs and RAID controllers on PCI-E because they can easily saturate the current PCI bus.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

it is a scalable bus but so what for right now? Current graphics card work better on AGP from what I have seen but as the GPU's begin doing more CPU like work the PCI-ex bus should become more viable, especially with bandwidth hungry applications like HD Editing. Plus the 133 PCI bus will finally die a decent death. There is also some confusion i have seen about hypertransport and pci-ex. They are compatible and complementary. The hypertransport links the cpu(s) and the northbridge and northbridge to southbridge [this only applies to AMD chipsets not Intel] while the pci-ex links the expansion slots to the southbridge. They should work well together and Hypertransport 2 is going to scale to like 20 Gigs per seconds DDR versus the 2 Gigs ddr currently. Multi-core, multithreaded, parallel processors and serial buses. Who would a thunk it?

 

[earthling30]

Originally posted by: Matthias99
AMD doesn't make chipsets.........

They don't? Maybe not for the std pc user!
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ComputingSolutions/0,,30_288_809_4886,00.html

 

[mrgoblin]

Probably not until q1 05.

 

[scottie924]

You know. PCI-E is just like every single other new technology every made. When it first comes out there is not need for it. But sooner or later it eithere comes to and everyone loves it, or it sucks and dies off. Its the computers world of survival of the fittest. 64-bit was thought to be useless until Windows 64-bit came out. And for right now it is just a performance upgrade. I'm sure there are many other examples.

 

[Lvcifer]

so back to topics, when will the AMD motherboard that support PCI Express going to be released?
will VIA be the one?

will it worth waiting for?
if i dont buy PCIe mobo and PCIe video cards, how long till its being replaced by the PCIe one?

thanks for the info guys..

 

[astrophysics]

You might as well keep waiting... gotta wait for BTX too