PCI-Express slot mobo for AMD

psyconius

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I am ordering the rest of my parts tonight. I didn't realize how scarce the options were for getting a mobo that has PCI-express slot(s) for AMD chips. I am getting irrate. I have to get a mobo, chip, ram, and video card tonight.. (building 2 pc's total, have one mostly done.. deciding to go a little more high end now.. so I want a PCIex card and an athlon64..) the problem is... I see the asus board for craploads of money.. and the chaintech vnf4 for a great price(but not shipping currently). Is there any in between? Or perhaps around the same price as a vnf4? Again.. key thing is I am ordering to have it in time for this weekend and I need PCIex mobo!
 

ts3433

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You can look around and see if anyone else is stocking the Chaintech, but I guess you might be out of luck.

Actually, I've also seen an Abit with a K8T890 chipset that has one slot, so you I guess you can try that too, though personally I'd rather wait for the Chaintech to get back in stock again.
 

psyconius

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hahaha.. thanks man... I was just getting one last check before hitting pricewatch.. that saves a bundle of time and money.. hooray for gigabyte!
 

gobucks

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careful, the Gigabyte board is non-ultra, meaning it has no SATA-II, activearmor firewall, overclocking options, hot swappable hard drives, and i believe the HTT speed is limited to 800MHz. Not really a good bet for high end. I'd either go for the A8N-SLI or try to find the Chaintech board somewhere else (mine's on order from newegg, but they're out, i think i saw some for $140 on ebay a while ago). Or, of course, wait a few weeks for the Asus A8N-E, the Gigabyte K8NXP-9, etc. to hit the market and occupy the $150 range. If you're buying a high end system, you'll be pretty pissed with the lack of functionality of the vanilla NF4 - in fact, it's basically a step down from cheaper NF3 mobos.

I had an A8N-SLI for a while, but the SATA-II controller died and i had to return it, so i can't give a great recommendation, but lots of people seem to love the board, for what it's worth. Things i liked: Fast, ran stable, every bell and whistle imaginable. Things i didn't like: SATA-II controller dying, confusing bios, long boot sequence, tech support hard to contact, couldn't tell if PCI lock was there/functioning, no bios option for NCQ.

I haven't received my VNF4/Ultra yet, but so far i've heard positive, and if you can find it for sub-$150, it's a steal. All the features the chaintech lacks compared to Asus are redundant - second LAN, second SATA controller, extra cables and adaptors, and a second PCIe x16 slot, so if you are likely like me and won't be using these things, then the 50% price savings more than makes up for these things.

Gigabyte's boards got great reviews for performance and features, but they are barely available, and not priced well (the Ultra board is currently $250, or A8N-SLI pricing). Additionally, the one that is available is the non-ultra, which is very crippled and priced in the Ultra range at $130+ shipping.
 

Insomniak

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I have to agree that there really is no excuse for how late AMD PCIe boards have been getting to market - it's a disgrace really.
 

psyconius

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Yes.. and now I can't get the gigabyte.. which may be a good thing.. But searching froogle, pricewatch, newegg, etc...

VNF4/Ultra can be purchased for $130-150.. but always out of stock and closed buy it now auctions..

The other cards are either also out of stock, or way too expensive.

I am putting out an all call if anyone finds the vnf4 tonight, let me know.. Or anything comprable in price and performance(up to.. say $160).. let me know..
 

archcommus

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Eh, you know things always get messy when things are brand new. Incompatibilities, instabilities, etc. Then weeks later a new, better revision will be released. Or a new board entirely. I'm going to wait out all the new releases and then see what the best offering for me is.
 

psyconius

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well the inherent problems are this:

If I get a mobo that supports pci-express, 9 times out of 10 it will be a 939 slot. So will have to cough up the extra 10-15 bucks for the athlon64. But all the mid to high end video cards I am considering are readily available in pci-ex..

If I say screw pci-express I will save cash on the chip, but I am back to hunting for a good video card that supports AGP(which when you find them they are a bit more expensive than the pci-ex versions)

So it is definitely a catch-22. PCI-express amd mobos are hard to find..
AGP vid cards that I want are hard to find..

But I am going with a Chaintech 6600GT for $189.. So I will have to go for pci-express mobo. Now, there is a crappy looking mobo that has PCI-express and still socket 754.. but it just looks.. bad.. cheap though.. $78..

But that raises another issue.. I really would enjoy having the Chaintech mobo and Chaintech vid card running in harmony. So find me a friggin VNF4/Ultra!
 

ChineseDemocracyGNR

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Originally posted by: psyconius
But I am going with a Chaintech 6600GT for $189.. So I will have to go for pci-express mobo. Now, there is a crappy looking mobo that has PCI-express and still socket 754.. but it just looks.. bad.. cheap though.. $78..

Which one?
 

psyconius

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bah.. guess I will order everything but mobo tonight. Hopefully when I wake up I can put a new order in for mobo with fedex overnight :/

Keep me updated if anyone finds it outside of newegg.. I have auto-notify and am refreshing like a mad man when I walk by the PC
 

psyconius

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**UPDATE: Well.. this experience has destroyed a longtime AMD fanboy. This is absolutely ridiculous that it is so hard to get a hold of a mobo with PCI-express capabilities.

So.. I would have been spending roughly $290 for Athlon64 3000 and VNF4/Ultra..

Instead I am getting a Chaintech V915P and P4 2.8E for about the same price. The P4 was a tad higher, but the mobo was a tad lower. I may go back to AMD on my next big system change, but right now I am really, really, irrate with AMD.
 

stevty2889

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I wouldn't actualy blame in on AMD, since they don't make the chipsets, blame it on Nvidia, for not getting them out fast enough..
 

syconub

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the longer they are out the more they are perfected. (after32948748923 people bitch them out for rmas and they solve the problems and put new boards out)
 

bob661

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It lists AGP 8x and PCI-E x1 which is a very weird combo. Anyone got any more info on this board?

It's a SIS chipset. I would just visit the SIS website and see what info they have on it.
 
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