Petition for AMD Heat Spreaders

[Inferno]

Well everyone I killed my 1st Socket A athlon. Chipped the core with my Thermal Engine. I'm tired of having to worry about chipped cores and fried chips. So, I'm starting this Petition in hopes that maybe someone from AMD will read it and spread the word.

Please post how many AMD chips you have and how many you've killed from lack of heat spreader.

I also posted this on HardOCP. Link to HardOCP Petition

 

[SaturnX]

I have yet to break a single core, if installed properly, then it won't crack. It's all about equal pressure. Just place teh heatsink on the chip, pop the clip on one end, then push down the CLIP ONLY untill it locks, and presto, heatsink installed.

--Mark

 

[chizow]

Played with 4 socket A's and installed removed them countless times.....

-0- dead socket A's.

Depends a lot on the heatsink mounting mechanism as well. Also with integrated heat spreaders, they don't dissipate heat as well as the bare core. The most die-hard celly/p3/p4 OCers usually remove their IHS.

Chiz

 

[Swanny]

There was a petition like this about 2 weeks ago. I personally believe that more people will kill their chips trying to take the speaders off if they're put on than will kill their chips because there wasn't one.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

*cough*K6*cough*

 

[DougK62]

I've handled TONS of the socket A chips. No problems at all.

Chipped Core = User Error

 

[Micah]

I say yes, more safety is definitely needed. Everyone who responds to these things always brags about "handled 10 million Athlons, never hurt 1" Well, obviously there are people out there harming their chips and it only seems to happen with AMD chips. Coincidence? I doubt it.

Micah

P.S. I've handled 2 Athlons, and 1 of them is sitting on my desk right now. It's silicon soul was burnt to a crisp in what I assume was some sort of heat spreader problem. I've installed plenty of Intel CPUs (even Slot-1, which really sucks) and I never had any problems. First time I try AMD, I get a faceful of smoke.

 

[NesuD]

<< P.S. I've handled 2 Athlons, and 1 of them is sitting on my desk right now. It's silicon soul was burnt to a crisp in what I assume was some sort of heat spreader problem. I've installed plenty of Intel CPUs (even Slot-1, which really sucks) and I never had any problems. First time I try AMD, I get a faceful of smoke. >>


That is because you did not have the heatsink installed properly. The problem wasn't a heat spreader problem or a lack of one but a user error problem. you did not make sure you had a good contact with the heatsink. probably had the heatsink on backwards or off location so that the edge of it was resting on the socket lever mechanism preventing it from making proper contact with the die surface. proper heatsink installation is a well known to be critical in athlon installation if you failed to take the proper care you have no one to blame but yourself.

 

[Dill]

personally, I'd rather not have a heat spreader, and keep the better heat transfer properties of having the bare core exposed.

 

[Micah]

<< if you failed to take the proper care you have no one to blame but yourself. >>



Never said it was anyone's fault but mine, but I'm just saying that it is too easy to toast these things. If I remember correctly, the older model of power connection to motherboards (a couple years back) was reversible. If you stick it in one way, everything works fine. Stick it in the other way, *poof*, mobo up in smoke. It was your own fault if you screwed it up, but it was easy to do. They eventually fixed it so that could never happen, since it will only fit in one way now. I like it when they make these things as robust as possible.

I just hate the "only yourself to blame" argument. They add crumple zones to cars because they know people are going to crash them. The same thing is true with these CPUs. They know people are going to be installing them for the first time with no prior experience, so they should do what they can in order to safeguard them from improper handling. Everybody is new at some point.

Why do pencils have erasers? Because people screw up. If the Athlons had some sort of on-board heat protection, then it would be the same effect as an eraser. You screw up, you get a second chance free of charge.

 

[BD231]

Maybe if you were a little more carefull....

 

[chizow]

<< I say yes, more safety is definitely needed. Everyone who responds to these things always brags about "handled 10 million Athlons, never hurt 1" Well, obviously there are people out there harming their chips and it only seems to happen with AMD chips. Coincidence? I doubt it.

Micah

P.S. I've handled 2 Athlons, and 1 of them is sitting on my desk right now. It's silicon soul was burnt to a crisp in what I assume was some sort of heat spreader problem. I've installed plenty of Intel CPUs (even Slot-1, which really sucks) and I never had any problems. First time I try AMD, I get a faceful of smoke. >>



Sounds like user error in the first degree

 

[Insidious]

It's hard for me to imagine a solution from AMD (or Intel for that matter) that is going to be so versatile and so efficient that we don't need to remove it to put something else in it's place. Case in point.... and you don't use the stock HSF from AMD, Why?

Anyway, there are just things in this world that MUST be done correctly. My observation is that heat sink installation is one of them!