Ping: Left Lane Hogs

[cubby1223]

If my math is correct, that incredible 9 minutes a day totals over 54 hours a year. Start adding up the years and you're talking about days and days of time saved...

Exactly. I can never understand people who not only take pride in wasting the one aspect of life that can never be replaced, take pride in wasting this of everyone else around them

 

[TheSlamma]

Exactly. I can never understand people who not only take pride in wasting the one aspect of life that can never be replaced, take pride in wasting this of everyone else around them

Just curious, what are you doing with that time saved? posting on forums? watching Netflix?, eating at Wendy's till the end of time? Anything actually important done with all that time saved? or just self made importance?

In a world where almost everything is already near instant gratification it just baffles the mind at how there is even less patience for everything. What are you cramming into that average 76 year lifespan that makes people so hostile towards people who are just rolling with life?

 

[Red Storm]

Just curious, what are you doing with that time saved? posting on forums? watching Netflix?, eating at Wendy's till the end of time? Anything actually important done with all that time saved? or just self made importance?

In a world where almost everything is already near instant gratification it just baffles the mind at how there is even less patience for everything. What are you cramming into that average 76 year lifespan that makes people so hostile towards people who are just rolling with life?

To me it's not about what else are you doing specifically, it's that you are spending that time on something other than sitting in a car going from A to B. Over an entire lifetime you're talking about extra months - or in some people's cases years - of your life spent in a car. To me that's disgusting to think about, what a waste of life.

 

[cubby1223]

Just curious, what are you doing with that time saved? posting on forums? watching Netflix?, eating at Wendy's till the end of time? Anything actually important done with all that time saved? or just self made importance?

In a world where almost everything is already near instant gratification it just baffles the mind at how there is even less patience for everything. What are you cramming into that average 76 year lifespan that makes people so hostile towards people who are just rolling with life?

It's not your concern how I choose to live my life. All you need to do is not block the roads.

But for your information, my job for the last 15 years has been IT support for many local businesses. I've packed on 34k miles on my car in just two years. The less people are assholes on the road, the more businesses I can help, the more work I can accomplish in the span of a day, more time I can spend with the businesses to address further specifics of their problems. Minutes absolutely count. Every minute is an opportunity to provide better service.

Not to mention the ripple-effect. If I can help a business a half-hour earlier, their employees can all begin their work a half-hour earlier, all their customers can get serviced a half-hour earlier.

Or were you thinking I'd not respond so you can get your online "gratification" by posting something retarded?

 

[TheSlamma]

It's not your concern how I choose to live my life. All you need to do is not block the roads.

But for your information, my job for the last 15 years has been IT support for many local businesses. I've packed on 34k miles on my car in just two years. The less people are assholes on the road, the more businesses I can help, the more work I can accomplish in the span of a day, more time I can spend with the businesses to address further specifics of their problems. Minutes absolutely count. Every minute is an opportunity to provide better service.

Not to mention the ripple-effect. If I can help a business a half-hour earlier, their employees can all begin their work a half-hour earlier, all their customers can get serviced a half-hour earlier.

Or were you thinking I'd not respond so you can get your online "gratification" by posting something retarded?

Actually you did have a way way better answer than I figured you would, you are clearly not one of these Rikki Racers that are not just in a hurry to get home and hop on Call of Duty.

As far as choosing how people live their life you are 100% correct, but it is also not anyone's right to put my life or anyone elses in danger because they are in a hurry or are angry at others on the road or are just being impatient. One of the tasks of intelligent people is to understand that the world is what it is and that we have to be adaptable to it. If a moron driver is in the left lane on their cell phone driving under the speed limit and I am in the middle lane enjoying the parkway going exactly the speed limit then you don't get to shoot the gap and cut me off because you are mad that the idiot in the left lane. I've been in the IT field since 1993, worked on everything from ma and pa shops all the way to the largest corporation in the world in the late 1990's, I know that none of it is more important than someones life.

 

[cubby1223]

Actually you did have a way way better answer than I figured you would, you are clearly not one of these Rikki Racers that are not just in a hurry to get home and hop on Call of Duty.

As far as choosing how people live their life you are 100% correct, but it is also not anyone's right to put my life or anyone elses in danger because they are in a hurry or are angry at others on the road or are just being impatient. One of the tasks of intelligent people is to understand that the world is what it is and that we have to be adaptable to it. If a moron driver is in the left lane on their cell phone driving under the speed limit and I am in the middle lane enjoying the parkway going exactly the speed limit then you don't get to shoot the gap and cut me off because you are mad that the idiot in the left lane.

There are safe drivers who drive fast, and there are unsafe drivers who drive fast. You cannot justify being a jerk slowing everyone down because you don't like unsafe drivers.

The latest project work I have taken on, well isn't for a local small business, it's a project that requires coordinated effort spanning, I'm not joking, between 2-3,000 people. Minutes absolutely matter, especially at the top. Minutes have massive ripple effects down the chain, which when saved, gets work accomplished a lot quicker reducing stress levels of a lot of people, and gives a lot of people a lot of extra free time to enjoy life.

A minute at the top might cause the next level down to be delayed by 10 minutes, the next level gets delayed now by 30 minutes. By the time the ripple hits the bottom, the work may be delayed for an entire day.

BTW, this project is getting a gsib in compliance with federal regulations. Something I can bet you personally wished had been accomplished ten years ago, let alone 2016.

Bottom line is don't waste other people's time, simple as that

 

[TheSlamma]

There are safe drivers who drive fast, and there are unsafe drivers who drive fast. You cannot justify being a jerk slowing everyone down because you don't like unsafe drivers.

The latest project work I have taken on, well isn't for a local small business, it's a project that requires coordinated effort spanning, I'm not joking, between 2-3,000 people. Minutes absolutely matter, especially at the top. Minutes have massive ripple effects down the chain, which when saved, gets work accomplished a lot quicker reducing stress levels of a lot of people, and gives a lot of people a lot of extra free time to enjoy life.

Bottom line is don't waste other people's time, simple as that

No, the bottom line is peoples lives are more important than anyones hurry. I can't help if other people are being morons and it pisses you off, don't take it out on everyone else.

We had systems at Citibank that cost over 3 million dollars for every 1/2 hour block they were down, so you can press on the importance all you want, I've been there done that. And as far as driving I don't slow down to make my point, as stated I enjoy life and I'm fine at the speed limit, I've never been in a wreck and I've never been given a single ticket in my life. I am the king of the middle lane if there is one available.

As far as fast drivers being safe that is a flawed theory, the problem is it doesn't compensate for moron drivers.

 

[Harrod]

I've only seen this law enforced one time, a few years ago me and a group of other motorists were all doing about 80 down the interstate. When we saw a truck pulling a horse trailer going 65 in the left lane. We all went over a hill and there was a state trooper on the side of the road. I pretty much was at peace knowing I was going to get a ticket. Then the trooper got behind the truck and pulled it over.

 

[Red Squirrel]

In general it's not an issue here as most roads only have 1 lane per side, some roads have 2 but the right lane doubles as a place to put snow and what's left of it tends to have a lot of loose snow due to lack of traffic. Still see idiots trying to drive in it drifting all over the place though, but technically you just have to stick to the left in those places. I only get in the right to turn right if I feel that I won't get stuck.

Then there's the highway, most of the time I find everyone is in the right going like 30 or even slower. After a while I figure what's the point of this, so I get in the left lane so I can do 60 (the limit) instead. Technically, I'm just passing. They tend to plow the highway right down to the pavement most of the time so really not sure why people go so slow on it.

But on the asshole spectrum, i'd say HID light users are higher than slow pokes, left lane hoggers, and even tailgaters. There's a special place in hell for those who have HID lights. A new trend in this assholery is people with HID fog lights in addition to HID head lights. I won't be surprised if a study comes out saying these are very bad for the eyes. It's basically like looking at an arc weld flash.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

There are safe drivers who drive fast, and there are unsafe drivers who drive fast. You cannot justify being a jerk slowing everyone down because you don't like unsafe drivers.

The latest project work I have taken on, well isn't for a local small business, it's a project that requires coordinated effort spanning, I'm not joking, between 2-3,000 people. Minutes absolutely matter, especially at the top. Minutes have massive ripple effects down the chain, which when saved, gets work accomplished a lot quicker reducing stress levels of a lot of people, and gives a lot of people a lot of extra free time to enjoy life.

A minute at the top might cause the next level down to be delayed by 10 minutes, the next level gets delayed now by 30 minutes. By the time the ripple hits the bottom, the work may be delayed for an entire day.

BTW, this project is getting a gsib in compliance with federal regulations. Something I can bet you personally wished had been accomplished ten years ago, let alone 2016.

Bottom line is don't waste other people's time, simple as that

This is why no one cares. I'm not sure why you've got it confused in your mind that the time saved matters, but it doesn't matter in any globally meaningful degree. If it really mattered, this would have been done a long time ago. I can't stand when I deal with lazy, cheap clients who don't want to upgrade their infrastructure, who then go into panic mode when an application fails and they didn't invest enough in their infrastructure to ensure up-time. I have absolutely no sympathy.

I get what you're saying. People can be considerate of others and just move over when possible and safe to do so. It's just your example is absurd.

 

[Jeff7]

What is with all of the people, and posters here, who think it is acceptable to exceed the speed limit?

Depends where you are.
I drove in Louisiana. People there follow the limits very closely because speed limit enforcement is evidently all the police down there do. They're everywhere.
Right lane: 5mph below the limit. Left lane: Juuuuust below the limit.


Pennsylvania, at least in my experience:
Right lane: 5-10mph above the limit.
Left lane: 15+ over, at your own risk.
80 in a 65? Maybe you'll be pulled over. Weaving all over the place is a good way to attract attention in that case.
85 in a 65? Now you're pushing your luck.

70 in a 65? If the cop is really bored......you'll still probably be fine.

There's a stretch of road with a 35mph limit. No pedestrians, not a residential area...I don't know why they went with that limit. If the road's snowy, traffic will probably be going 35. Otherwise, 45+ is more common.
I've been on windy, hilly rural roads surrounded by suicidal ninja deer, and those roads have a posted limit of 45mph

 

[RampantAndroid]

You can regularly go past WA state patrol doing 10 over without them caring. It's around 12-13 over where they start to care about you. I grew up in PA so I can second what Jeff7 is saying, too: 5-10 over...but speed limits there are typically 55 or 65 from what I remember (222, US30, 283 and so forth).

In WA, limits are usually not above 60, and 10 over works fine. It's in remote places like I90 going through the Snoqualmie Pass where the limit will jump to 70 (and 80 is fine). I really wish we'd bump the limits statewide from 60 to 65. We ALSO have laws saying stay right except to pass and that if you're blocking 5 or more cars (REGARDLESS of whether you're going under, at or over the speed limit) you MUST pull over to let them pass. It's totally unenforced, sadly.

 

[Linux23]

You forgot NJ.

F U. Most bad NJ drivers are the transplants from NY.

 

[Jumpem]

I still don't understand the social acceptance of speeding. Even when I went on an 1,800 mile road trip I set the cruise control to the speed limit the entire time.

 

[RampantAndroid]

I still don't understand the social acceptance of speeding. Even when I went on an 1,800 mile road trip I set the cruise control to the speed limit the entire time.

OK. Did you block traffic? Specifically did you not yield to cars going faster than you pursuant to state laws?

If you did not block traffic - that's your thing. If you did block traffic...well, you're part of the problem. People speeding isn't your problem (baring them being reckless.)

Speeding is something we live with because of a number of factors:

• inaccuracy of the speedometers in cars
• the fact that the speedo is calibrated for an average tire size. If it's calibrated for 16" wheels and you swap to 19" wheels, your speedo will read too low. If it's calibrated for your 19" wheels and you swap to 16" winter tires, you'll get going too slow.
• Both of these combined mean that cops can't ticket you for going 61 in a 60. Cops generally ticket for no less than 5MPH over.
• People have come to learn that cops give that leeway, and so they take advantage of it. This is then compounded by legislators not reacting - when traffic is consistently going 5-10 over the limit, maybe you need to raise the limit and just be done with it.

 

[Pandasaurus]

But on the asshole spectrum, i'd say HID light users are higher than slow pokes, left lane hoggers, and even tailgaters. There's a special place in hell for those who have HID lights. A new trend in this assholery is people with HID fog lights in addition to HID head lights. I won't be surprised if a study comes out saying these are very bad for the eyes. It's basically like looking at an arc weld flash.

This, although I might put the tailgaters at a tie with the HID + HID fog users.

I still don't understand the social acceptance of speeding. Even when I went on an 1,800 mile road trip I set the cruise control to the speed limit the entire time.

Also this. I'm waiting for the day that I get rear-ended by that guy doing 85 in a 65 while eating his dinner, talking on his phone, and doing a crossword puzzle all at once. And yes, I've seen people doing one (or more) of those things while going at least 75 in a 65.

I'm not sure which annoys me more, the people who insist on doing at least 15 over the limit, or the people who tailgate you 6 inches off your bumper because you aren't doing it too, despite the fact that there are FOUR other lanes they could use to pass you, regardless of the lane you are in (usually the right, for the record).

 

[Skeeedunt]

Let's see, first we assume a twenty mile commute that is primarily highway. Then, we assume said road hog is driving 50 mph. You save an incredible 9 minutes. Which, should give you just enough time to rub one out in the drive thru. Yep, hanging's too good for him.

I don't care about time, I care about driving. Honk honk get outta the way.

 

[Jumpem]

OK. Did you block traffic? Specifically did you not yield to cars going faster than you pursuant to state laws?

If you did not block traffic - that's your thing. If you did block traffic...well, you're part of the problem. People speeding isn't your problem (baring them being reckless.)

Speeding is something we live with because of a number of factors:

• inaccuracy of the speedometers in cars
• the fact that the speedo is calibrated for an average tire size. If it's calibrated for 16" wheels and you swap to 19" wheels, your speedo will read too low. If it's calibrated for your 19" wheels and you swap to 16" winter tires, you'll get going too slow.
• Both of these combined mean that cops can't ticket you for going 61 in a 60. Cops generally ticket for no less than 5MPH over.
• People have come to learn that cops give that leeway, and so they take advantage of it. This is then compounded by legislators not reacting - when traffic is consistently going 5-10 over the limit, maybe you need to raise the limit and just be done with it.

I generally don't block people or stay in the left lane. If someone comes flying up behind me and flashes or honks I will stay put though until they go around me instead of moving right as soon as possible.

As far speedometer inaccuracy, I set my speed based on GPS instead.

 

[zerocool84]

This, although I might put the tailgaters at a tie with the HID + HID fog users.



Also this. I'm waiting for the day that I get rear-ended by that guy doing 85 in a 65 while eating his dinner, talking on his phone, and doing a crossword puzzle all at once. And yes, I've seen people doing one (or more) of those things while going at least 75 in a 65.

I'm not sure which annoys me more, the people who insist on doing at least 15 over the limit, or the people who tailgate you 6 inches off your bumper because you aren't doing it too, despite the fact that there are FOUR other lanes they could use to pass you, regardless of the lane you are in (usually the right, for the record).

So basically you don't know how to drive since you're driving in a passing lane and not yielding to faster traffic. You pass on the left not on the right.

 

[Jeff7]

I generally don't block people or stay in the left lane. If someone comes flying up behind me and flashes or honks I will stay put though until they go around me instead of moving right as soon as possible.

As far speedometer inaccuracy, I set my speed based on GPS instead.

<GPS Signal Lost>
:sneaky:
"....Warp speed, Sulu!"

 

[Pandasaurus]

So basically you don't know how to drive since you're driving in a passing lane and not yielding to faster traffic. You pass on the left not on the right.

Try reading again. I'm in the RIGHT lane. You're more than welcome to pass me in one of the 2+ lanes to my left, rather than being a dumbass and tailgating me. If I AM in one of the left lanes, it's because I'm either passing slower traffic (which means I'm doing at least 5 over the limit), or allowing room for stupid people to attempt merging into 65 mph traffic at 45, or exiting a lane that ends ahead rather than waiting until the lane has already ended and trying to force my way into the next lane at the last possible moment, like most stupid people do.

If you want to continue tailgating, by all means, go ahead. But don't blame me when you take a dive off onto the shoulder because you didn't have time to brake with the rest of traffic for the guy two cars ahead that just cut across three lanes of traffic so he wouldn't miss his exit. Fortunately, we were in the right lane, and there's plenty of space on the shoulder. Otherwise, he would have rear-ended me.

 

[brianmanahan]

ITT: people who think it is their god-given right to drive 20+mph over the speed limit any time they want to

 

[brianmanahan]

I'm not sure which annoys me more, the people who insist on doing at least 15 over the limit, or the people who tailgate you 6 inches off your bumper because you aren't doing it too, despite the fact that there are FOUR other lanes they could use to pass you, regardless of the lane you are in (usually the right, for the record).

both types of behavior are idiotic, and both are usually exhibited by the same people.

why traffic laws say "get over for morons doing 20 over", i have no idea. these morons should not be being 20 over, period.

 

[BrokenVisage]

 

[brianmanahan]

in ohio, as long as you're going the speed limit in the left lane, you're fine. they tried to change that law a couple years ago, but thankfully it got shot down.

so that means people driving the speed limit in the left lane aren't breaking the law, but people who are speeding are. it's quite clear.

still, i only use the left lane to pass, because maniacs who want to go 80+ will almost rear end me if i spend very much time in it.

i liked driving to my previous job a lot more, because i could get there by taking all 2-lane country roads, and largely avoid these maniacs.