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phantom309

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Originally posted by: irwincur
She needs to be killed in the same way.

Apparently it is cool now to own as many of these beasts as you can, and the treat them like crap. It seems like an out of control trend in my town. It seems when you drive through the poorer side of town that everyone has one or two Pitbulls strapped to their wrists at all times. Great proection, but for the most part the ones I have seen all looked like they have been treated like crap. Just called the Humane Society on a guy down the street with two - he feeds them raw meat, hits them all of the time, slaps them on the nose constantly, and makes them live outside without any shelter, food or water. Ticking time bombs.

What a dick.

Pits are no more inherently vicious than many other breeds of dogs. I've had 4 of them myself and have 1 at the moment that's an absolute sweetheart.

Sorry, Pits and Rots were expressly bred to be war dogs. Their lineage clearly starts in the Roman army and they have served that role through WWII with the Germans - who adopted them from the Romans centuries before.
Owning a pit bull is like giving a loaded shotgun to a three-year-old and telling him he has to protect you from "bad people".
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: irwincur
She needs to be killed in the same way.

Apparently it is cool now to own as many of these beasts as you can, and the treat them like crap. It seems like an out of control trend in my town. It seems when you drive through the poorer side of town that everyone has one or two Pitbulls strapped to their wrists at all times. Great proection, but for the most part the ones I have seen all looked like they have been treated like crap. Just called the Humane Society on a guy down the street with two - he feeds them raw meat, hits them all of the time, slaps them on the nose constantly, and makes them live outside without any shelter, food or water. Ticking time bombs.

What a dick.

Pits are no more inherently vicious than many other breeds of dogs. I've had 4 of them myself and have 1 at the moment that's an absolute sweetheart.

Sorry, Pits and Rots were expressly bred to be war dogs. Their lineage clearly starts in the Roman army and they have served that role through WWII with the Germans - who adopted them from the Romans centuries before.


Pits were bred as butchers dogs, not war dogs.
 

hemiram

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Didn't the bay area have a lady get her arms chewed off a few years ago by a pit bull? damn, that is awful..Another reason I wear steel tipped boots...

Inflicting pain on pit bulls only causes their jaws to lock tighter. The dog is physically unable to release you from its lock even if it wanted to until it calms down. It's jaw literally locks down and the dog cannot voluntarily release.



Total nonsense. There is no "Locking jaw". NONE. If he wants to let you go, he does. If he doesn't, he doesn't, but there is no such thing as locking jaws. Period. Not just in dogs, in anything.
 
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Originally posted by: phantom309
Owning a pit bull is like giving a loaded shotgun to a three-year-old and telling him he has to protect you from "bad people".
ime, most people making comments like this have never owned a pit in their life and their only experience with them is from the idiot neighbor down the street that owned a couple and treated them like crap.

Back in 2000 a 4lb. Pomeranian mauled a 6-week old baby to death. Funny, but I didn't see any huge cry to ban Poms.

I've owned breeds of dogs ranging from pits, to german shepards, pugs, labs, and poodles. You know which ones were the most tempermental and likely to snap and bite, ime? the fvcking poodles. That breed is just insane. It's as if they all suffer from canine PMS 24/7.

 

judasmachine

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Pits are no more inherently vicious than many other breeds of dogs. I've had 4 of them myself and have 1 at the moment that's an absolute sweetheart.

You are right to a degree, it's their physical prowess that makes them dangerous as most dogs go off at seemingly random times. It's probably phermone related but i haven't read anything that can say definatively. Just treat them with love and respect, and make sure others do too. I've worked with all types of dogs, and it seems Chow Chows are the meanest, but fortunately they are easier to get off of you when they go off. Just be careful and nurture her, and she should be fine, just always keep an eye out, as any animal is capable of vicious behavior.

The thing about this story that set me off is the mother's flippant attitude.
 

jonjonsanfru

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: phantom309
Owning a pit bull is like giving a loaded shotgun to a three-year-old and telling him he has to protect you from "bad people".
ime, most people making comments like this have never owned a pit in their life and their only experience with them is from the idiot neighbor down the street that owned a couple and treated them like crap.

Back in 2000 a 4lb. Pomeranian mauled a 6-week old baby to death. Funny, but I didn't see any huge cry to ban Poms.

I've owned breeds of dogs ranging from pits, to german shepards, pugs, labs, and poodles. You know which ones were the most tempermental and likely to snap and bite, ime? the fvcking poodles. That breed is just insane. It's as if they all suffer from canine PMS 24/7.
The Truth. As usual there are people who enjoy pointing to the minority and call it the norm because its easier to get worked up that way.

Edit: To the OP's article... that lady is teh dumb... her genetics may have descended from the reason 2 gallon buckets have warning labels that say "Drowning Hazard" with the picture of a baby doing a lil flail.
 

BDawg

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To the people who always say certain dogs aren't viscious, I ask, when was the last time a child was mauled by a Golden Retreiver or a Collie dog?
 
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Originally posted by: BDawg
To the people who always say certain dogs aren't viscious, I ask, when was the last time a child was mauled by a Golden Retreiver or a Collie dog?
March

The problem is hearing about it. When another breed besides a pit attacks a child or person, it often doesn't make the news. When it's a pit, it's smeared everywhere. If you want some information on dog attacks and maulings by dogs that are not pits, try here. Breeds of all kinds attacking and mauling people are not an uncommon thing.

 

irwincur

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Back in 2000 a 4lb. Pomeranian mauled a 6-week old baby to death. Funny, but I didn't see any huge cry to ban Poms.

Yeah, but with Pits and Rots is happens multiple times every day. I suspect that it is the group of people that tend to own them. Hell, most people with problem animals of all sorts have a hard enough time with their own lives, then add the ten kids they have because they are too stupid to stop - like they have the intelligence to raise a dog.
 
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Originally posted by: irwincur
Back in 2000 a 4lb. Pomeranian mauled a 6-week old baby to death. Funny, but I didn't see any huge cry to ban Poms.

Yeah, but with Pits and Rots is happens multiple times every day. I suspect that it is the group of people that tend to own them. Hell, most people with problem animals of all sorts have a hard enough time with their own lives, then add the ten kids they have because they are too stupid to stop - like they have the intelligence to raise a dog.
That's true. Not to mention the whole ghetto/gangsta fad right now to own pits.

People should own a breed of dog because they like the breed, not to use them in some lame attempt to pump up their image, or because some rappers own a few, or to assuage the nagging of their kids who just have to have a dog.

Owning a dog is a responsibility that many people do not take seriously. It makes me ill to see how some people treat an animal that, if treated correctly, will so unconditionally give you their complete love and devotion.
 

Proletariat

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Although its correct that the owner is to blame most of the time... Pit Bulls seem to kill more people than any other pet.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Heres one for all the dog "experts" in P&N.

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I was way off. That considered, I don't think I've ever seen a real pitbull. I bet most of the people I know who think they own pitbulls actually don't...
 

Yaotl

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: BDawg
To the people who always say certain dogs aren't viscious, I ask, when was the last time a child was mauled by a Golden Retreiver or a Collie dog?
March

The problem is hearing about it. When another breed besides a pit attacks a child or person, it often doesn't make the news. When it's a pit, it's smeared everywhere. If you want some information on dog attacks and maulings by dogs that are not pits, try here. Breeds of all kinds attacking and mauling people are not an uncommon thing.

You're wasting your breath, sadly, no one is going to read this.
 

Scarpozzi

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She should be punished....starve the dogs for a few days...then bathe her in pigs blood and throw her in a pit with the dogs.
 

classy

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I know several people who own Pitbulls or American Staffordshire Terrier and they are not only good dogs but safe just like any other dog. The only incident was the one friend said there was guy who his dog named Melazar didn't like. He said for whatever reason the dog never liked the guy. Well he wasn't home one day and the guy showed, the dog went through the window to get after the guy. The guy seen the dog coming and was able to get back into the car safely. So I would own one if my home owners insurance would allow me. But there are several dogs more likely to bite or attack a person than a Pitbull, but a pitbull attack is gets more attention.
 

maluckey

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nutxo,

You have several "pit bulls " on that page.

Pit Bull, name applied to any of several crossbreeds of dog that result from the crossing of bulldogs with terriers. In the United States, the most common breed of pit bull is the American pit bull terrier. Pit bulls were originally bred for the sports of bullbaiting and bearbaiting, and for the purpose of developing a brave, swift dog with a powerful bite to be used in the now illegal sport of dogfighting. Some breeders have crossed the American Staffordshire terrier with other breeds, especially the English bull terrier, yielding especially aggressive animals that are also called pit bulls. Pit bulls are athletic, well-muscled animals with a short, smooth coat. They may be any color. Despite their fierce reputation, pit bulls are not large dogs, ranging from 46 to 56 cm (18 to 22 in) tall and weighing from 20 to 40 kg (50 to 80 lb).

Encarta Encyclopedia.

 

Pneumothorax

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Back in 2000 a 4lb. Pomeranian mauled a 6-week old baby to death. Funny, but I didn't see any huge cry to ban Poms.

Yeah, but with Pits and Rots is happens multiple times every day. I suspect that it is the group of people that tend to own them. Hell, most people with problem animals of all sorts have a hard enough time with their own lives, then add the ten kids they have because they are too stupid to stop - like they have the intelligence to raise a dog.

Another reason why I wish people needed a license to reproduce...
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: maluckey
nutxo,

You have several "pit bulls " on that page.

Pit Bull, name applied to any of several crossbreeds of dog that result from the crossing of bulldogs with terriers. In the United States, the most common breed of pit bull is the American pit bull terrier. Pit bulls were originally bred for the sports of bullbaiting and bearbaiting, and for the purpose of developing a brave, swift dog with a powerful bite to be used in the now illegal sport of dogfighting. Some breeders have crossed the American Staffordshire terrier with other breeds, especially the English bull terrier, yielding especially aggressive animals that are also called pit bulls. Pit bulls are athletic, well-muscled animals with a short, smooth coat. They may be any color. Despite their fierce reputation, pit bulls are not large dogs, ranging from 46 to 56 cm (18 to 22 in) tall and weighing from 20 to 40 kg (50 to 80 lb).

Encarta Encyclopedia.

Thats a pretty sloppy defintion.

Why dont you admit they scare you and all things that scare people need to disappear?

Edit: Wow, I just realized after reading that again I get to say that an encyclopedia is wrong! Staffies came AFTER pitbulls. Also wrong about size
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: phantom309
Owning a pit bull is like giving a loaded shotgun to a three-year-old and telling him he has to protect you from "bad people".
ime, most people making comments like this have never owned a pit in their life and their only experience with them is from the idiot neighbor down the street that owned a couple and treated them like crap.

Back in 2000 a 4lb. Pomeranian mauled a 6-week old baby to death. Funny, but I didn't see any huge cry to ban Poms.

I've owned breeds of dogs ranging from pits, to german shepards, pugs, labs, and poodles. You know which ones were the most tempermental and likely to snap and bite, ime? the fvcking poodles. That breed is just insane. It's as if they all suffer from canine PMS 24/7.

It really is more about the owner than the dog, IMHO. Except poodles of course I think they suffer from short dog syndrome.
 

1EZduzit

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People just don't seem to realize that domesticated pets are still animals with all the instincts of wild animals. Even the best tempered animal can go off at any time.

Why people think they need a pet with so much potential to cause serious injury is beyond me?? Dogs can sense fear and get more agressive when they sense it. Especially the dogs already aggressive by nature.

It's a free country and people can do what they want, but if I had a vicious dog in my neighborhood who had an owner that didn't know how to train/handle it, I'd handle the problem myself. A piece of steak soaked in anti-frezze would make a fitting last meal for it.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
People just don't seem to realize that domesticated pets are still animals with all the instincts of wild animals. Even the best tempered animal can go off at any time.

Why people think they need a pet with so much potential to cause serious injury is beyond me?? Dogs can sense fear and get more agressive when they sense it. Especially the dogs already aggressive by nature.

It's a free country and people can do what they want, but if I had a vicious dog in my neighborhood who had an owner that didn't know how to train/handle it, I'd handle the problem myself. A piece of steak soaked in anti-frezze would make a fitting last meal for it.

A truly domesticated animal is not at all wild.

Your last line is proof you are a sad little man. If you are going to kill an animal you may as well do it as quickly as possible, not some torturous way that perks you all up thinking back on your childhood.

There are many maulings from animals everyday, more kids are seriously injured further just riding their bikes. Pit Bulls have gotten to be the media 'favorite' and saying Pit Bull is like calling all white people americans or black people africans.

There is a major trend that most of the people that own the dogs that attack others swear how safe and friendly they are, but at the same time taking major safeguards (heavy chains, dog stays in it's own room or back yard where no one can go, etc.

In this case has anyone brought up the fact that the mother locked the kid in the basement, but gave free reign to the dogs in her home

 

hysperion

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Originally posted by: classy
I know several people who own Pitbulls or American Staffordshire Terrier and they are not only good dogs but safe just like any other dog. The only incident was the one friend said there was guy who his dog named Melazar didn't like. He said for whatever reason the dog never liked the guy. Well he wasn't home one day and the guy showed, the dog went through the window to get after the guy. The guy seen the dog coming and was able to get back into the car safely. So I would own one if my home owners insurance would allow me. But there are several dogs more likely to bite or attack a person than a Pitbull, but a pitbull attack is gets more attention.


"The only incident" Laff.....The only incident is the dog trying to maul someone? Several meaning 5 or so friends and 1/5 has tried mauling someone and you think that's a good ratio?
 

classy

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Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: classy
I know several people who own Pitbulls or American Staffordshire Terrier and they are not only good dogs but safe just like any other dog. The only incident was the one friend said there was guy who his dog named Melazar didn't like. He said for whatever reason the dog never liked the guy. Well he wasn't home one day and the guy showed, the dog went through the window to get after the guy. The guy seen the dog coming and was able to get back into the car safely. So I would own one if my home owners insurance would allow me. But there are several dogs more likely to bite or attack a person than a Pitbull, but a pitbull attack is gets more attention.


"The only incident" Laff.....The only incident is the dog trying to maul someone? Several meaning 5 or so friends and 1/5 has tried mauling someone and you think that's a good ratio?


Maybe you haven't had many dogs. From a child we as a family have had as many 15-20. Every single dog alive will have dislike for someone for whatever reason. My Husky was a calm and friendly dog. But she couldn't stand my one uncle. All of our family could come there and no problem, but this one uncle better not show up. Our German Shepherd was a powerful dog but he never bothered anyone, but he would get silly at one of our neighbors across the street. I mean foaming at the mouth, but outside of that Flag was a very good dog and never showed a bit of dislike for anyone else. Dogs seem to have a sense about people and usually a socialized dog will for some reason show a dislike for someone for no particluar reason. And except for the toy type dogs, most of these dogs are watch dogs and will protect the house and family. As a matter of fact probably the most flakey dog is a Doberman. They even have temperment where they will even turn on their owner.
 
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