Pitbull Problem/Question

Josh

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I just adopted a baby pitbull, it's 3 months old. I've had it for 2 days now and haven't been able to take it to the vet to get its basic vaccinations yet. I feel like the dog breathes weird cause it is breathing a little faster than normal i think. Also, the baby hasn't even barked yet except when we left it alone and it made a little sound. Does anyone know if its sick? Do baby pits normally act like this? It also sleeps a lot...please help with ne input. thanks!

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Josh

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She's a beauty and she's extremely nice to all people. she has yet to even try and bite someone, she's just nibbling...i could never imagine her doing that. also, please read about pitbulls before you make general assumptions. it's all about how they are raised, just like children.
 

sixone

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Is his nose wet? IIRC, his nose will be dry if he's running a fever. That would be the first sign of a problem.
 

NascarFool

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Originally posted by: Josh
She's a beauty and she's extremely nice to all people. she has yet to even try and bite someone, she's just nibbling...i could never imagine her doing that. also, please read about pitbulls before you make general assumptions. it's all about how they are raised, just like children.

That's what most pitbull owners say and then something like THIS happens. The Police should have shot all three of the dogs. Hopefully charges will be filed on the childs parents.

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Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: NascarFool
Originally posted by: Josh
She's a beauty and she's extremely nice to all people. she has yet to even try and bite someone, she's just nibbling...i could never imagine her doing that. also, please read about pitbulls before you make general assumptions. it's all about how they are raised, just like children.

That's what most pitbull owners say and then something like THIS happens. The Police should have shot all three of the dogs. Hopefully charges will be filed on the childs parents.

ontario recently passed a law that outlawed pitbulls.
 

tyler811

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All dogs pitbulls or not should be chained or in a fenced yard. My neighbors dogs run all over the damn neighborhood and coming into my yard. No one has any idea what diseases
they might pick up and drop off in my yard. I am now getting a fence put up around my yard to keep the little $%^$#@ out.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: NascarFool
Originally posted by: Josh
She's a beauty and she's extremely nice to all people. she has yet to even try and bite someone, she's just nibbling...i could never imagine her doing that. also, please read about pitbulls before you make general assumptions. it's all about how they are raised, just like children.

That's what most pitbull owners say and then something like THIS happens. The Police should have shot all three of the dogs. Hopefully charges will be filed on the childs parents.

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yes thats the problem, people confusing dogs with PEOPLE!! of course its nice to your own family, thats how their instincts work, they protect their pack and submit to all those it see's as above it in pack status. you won't see that switch flip to viscious bloodlust yourself, someone else will when it gets out somehow. train as you will, its still a cr@p shoot, some are just genetically predisposed to biting.
 

BoberFett

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Stop with all the anti-pitbull bullsht. Other breeds bite too, they just don't make for sensational headlines. Stop listening to the talking heads. Do some research, get some facts, then come back and talk intelligently.
 

insaneanna

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Originally posted by: Josh
She's a beauty and she's extremely nice to all people. she has yet to even try and bite someone, she's just nibbling...i could never imagine her doing that. also, please read about pitbulls before you make general assumptions. it's all about how they are raised, just like children.


Well, give her time, she is only 3 months?
 

Josh

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Although Pit Bulls have gained a bad reputation for their seemingly aggressive behavior, this breed can be the ideal pet for the right owner. Pit Bulls crave attention and are very loyal and loving toward people.

Other dogs, on the other hand, tend to bring out the aggressive behavior of the Pit Bull. Originally bred to fight other dogs, Pit Bulls generally will not tolerate other dogs, especially those of the same sex. But with an owner who is knowledgeable about Pit Bulls and their personality traits, this breed will flourish and bring a great deal of enjoyment to their human companions.

Pit Bulls tend to be very confident, loving and bright, but also very dependent on humans. If left on their own for too long, they will often develop destructive habits such as chewing out of frustration and loneliness.

A good owner for this pet would be someone who is very responsible and committed to the specific care required by a Pit Bull. Pit Bulls need a great deal of training, exercise and one on one attention with their owners to keep from becoming frustrated. They should also not be left alone with other dogs. Therefore, a household with no other pets is an ideal home for a Pit bull.

Contrary to the image that they have in the media, Pit Bulls can be great with children. In general, Pit Bulls love people, especially children. The most common problem associated with Pit Bulls and children is that Pit Bulls are extremely energetic and they have a tendency, in their excitement, to knock young children over, puppies especially have a tendency for this.

In General, this breed is very easy to socialize with humans and is typically a great deal of fun to have around. Many Pit Bulls exhibit superior performance when it comes to obedience training and physical activities such as Frisbee and playing ball. For these reasons, Pit Bulls should not be overlooked when selecting a pet if you have what it takes to care for this special breed.

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But...i'm not going to turn this into an arguement...relax everyone, my dog will not be an aggressor. Thank you for the advice as well about the dry nose.
 

Captante

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The one factor about Pit Bulls which you & the article linked to mentioned is that they were bred for a long time to fight other dogs, with these dogs in particular its very important to know the history of the dogs bloodline & to buy from a reputable breeder who keeps accurate records. In pure-bred pit-bulls human aggression is actually very rare because any dog that showed aggression towards a human was immediatly killed & often in front of the other dogs, human aggression in pit bulls is a recent development caused by breeding with other large & aggressive breeds combined with dogs that are trained to attack.
The American Kennel club, who IMO knows more then most about dogs rates the pit bull as one of the best & most loyal family pets & a great choice for families with children and this jibes with all but one of the breed that I've personally known... the Black Lab is actually responsible for more bites then any other breed of medium dog & German Shepards for by far the most serious bites from large dogs... the overall bite champ is the Cocker-Spanial but to me ankle-biters don't count.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: Josh
I just adopted a baby pitbull, it's 3 months old. I've had it for 2 days now and haven't been able to take it to the vet to get its basic vaccinations yet. I feel like the dog breathes weird cause it is breathing a little faster than normal i think. Also, the baby hasn't even barked yet except when we left it alone and it made a little sound. Does anyone know if its sick? Do baby pits normally act like this? It also sleeps a lot...please help with ne input. thanks!

Every pit i've owned has been full of energy. As for the barking. Pit's don't usually bark that much until they get older. Looks like you have a lot of doubts in your mind about his/her condition. I would take him/her to the vet as soon as you get an opportunity. Small problems can turn into big problems.
 

Xcobra

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whats with the hate against pitbulls? not all pitbulls are the same. tyler i agree with you on that they shouldnt be chained or locked. any dog can become aggressive under those conditions. so it depends on how the dog is raised, whether itll be aggressive or not. OP, hmm it sounds like she may be sick cuz most dogs, at that age, are very energetic and playful. id take her to the vet if i were you. hope everything goes well. good luck!
 

Baked

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Originally posted by: Xcobra
whats with the hate against pitbulls? not all pitbulls are the same. tyler i agree with you on that they shouldnt be chained or locked. any dog can become aggressive under those conditions. so it depends on how the dog is raised, whether itll be aggressive or not. OP, hmm it sounds like she may be sick cuz most dogs, at that age, are very energetic and playful. id take her to the vet if i were you. hope everything goes well. good luck!

Maybe you can teach us how to raise an Afrian bull elephant that doesn't strangle you w/ its trunk and gore you with its tusks when you kick it in the nuts.
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Xcobra
whats with the hate against pitbulls? not all pitbulls are the same. tyler i agree with you on that they shouldnt be chained or locked. any dog can become aggressive under those conditions. so it depends on how the dog is raised, whether itll be aggressive or not. OP, hmm it sounds like she may be sick cuz most dogs, at that age, are very energetic and playful. id take her to the vet if i were you. hope everything goes well. good luck!

Maybe you can teach us how to raise an Afrian bull elephant that doesn't strangle you w/ its trunk and gore you with its tusks when you kick it in the nuts.

say what? What does that have to do with anything? He's right. Any dog that is chained or locked up can become aggressive..pitbull or not.
 

Xcobra

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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Xcobra
whats with the hate against pitbulls? not all pitbulls are the same. tyler i agree with you on that they shouldnt be chained or locked. any dog can become aggressive under those conditions. so it depends on how the dog is raised, whether itll be aggressive or not. OP, hmm it sounds like she may be sick cuz most dogs, at that age, are very energetic and playful. id take her to the vet if i were you. hope everything goes well. good luck!

Maybe you can teach us how to raise an Afrian bull elephant that doesn't strangle you w/ its trunk and gore you with its tusks when you kick it in the nuts.

WTF is that suppose to mean? did you not understand what i said....:disgust:
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: Xcobra
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Xcobra
whats with the hate against pitbulls? not all pitbulls are the same. tyler i agree with you on that they shouldnt be chained or locked. any dog can become aggressive under those conditions. so it depends on how the dog is raised, whether itll be aggressive or not. OP, hmm it sounds like she may be sick cuz most dogs, at that age, are very energetic and playful. id take her to the vet if i were you. hope everything goes well. good luck!

Maybe you can teach us how to raise an Afrian bull elephant that doesn't strangle you w/ its trunk and gore you with its tusks when you kick it in the nuts.

WTF is that suppose to mean? did you not understand what i said....:disgust:

Don't mind him..he probably just got back from the bars...tried to hit on women..but didn't bring anyone home...he'll be fine in the morning
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Stop with all the anti-pitbull bullsht. Other breeds bite too, they just don't make for sensational headlines. Stop listening to the talking heads. Do some research, get some facts, then come back and talk intelligently.

Statistically, pitbulls are responsible for more attacks then any other breed out there.
Additionally, pitbull attacks are generalyl worse then attacks by other dogs.

You can argue how good the dog is, how friendly the breed is etc etc but the simple facts show otherwise.

That said, ANY dog has the ability to become aggresive and dangerous. People forget one simple things. Dogs are carnivorous pack animals. Centuries of breeding and domesticating them has done quite alot to bury that trait but it is a trait that still exists and will always exist deep within the dog. It is a carnivorous pack animal that hunts.
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Stop with all the anti-pitbull bullsht. Other breeds bite too, they just don't make for sensational headlines. Stop listening to the talking heads. Do some research, get some facts, then come back and talk intelligently.

Statistically, pitbulls are responsible for more attacks then any other breed out there.
Additionally, pitbull attacks are generalyl worse then attacks by other dogs.

You can argue how good the dog is, how friendly the breed is etc etc but the simple facts show otherwise.

That said, ANY dog has the ability to become aggresive and dangerous. People forget one simple things. Dogs are carnivorous pack animals. Centuries of breeding and domesticating them has done quite alot to bury that trait but it is a trait that still exists and will always exist deep within the dog. It is a carnivorous pack animal that hunts.

If you read my post, you'll note a couple points which arn't my opinion at all, but are based on the real statistics & the opinions of the American Kennel club, not media hype... I own a big German Shepard & they are the most likely dog to attack & do serious damage to somone, not a Pit-bull... a well trained pure bred Pit Bull makes a great pet contrary to popular belief, the problem is the (admittedly many) irresponsible owners who encourage
or even train their dogs to be aggressive & amatuer breeders which either inbreed the dogs until they become unstable or breed them with other aggressive types.

Btw, its interesting to note that ALL dogs regardless of breed are genetically almost identical to the wolf, so that part of what you said is correct.

 

Cdubneeddeal

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Stop with all the anti-pitbull bullsht. Other breeds bite too, they just don't make for sensational headlines. Stop listening to the talking heads. Do some research, get some facts, then come back and talk intelligently.

Statistically, pitbulls are responsible for more attacks then any other breed out there.
Additionally, pitbull attacks are generalyl worse then attacks by other dogs.

You can argue how good the dog is, how friendly the breed is etc etc but the simple facts show otherwise.

It still comes down to the owner. I've had several dogs that were deemed by the public to be dangerous. Two of which were actually my sisters' dogs. One was a brindle and the other a chow/pit mix. Both were great family dogs but her boyfriend played really rough with them thus causing them to be mean. Then when my ex-girfriend and I were together we ended up purchasing a Rotty named Blaze. He was great. Great with people, kids, and other animals as well.

The reason why pitbull attacks in general are more severe is due to their lockjaw. When they bite, they latch on.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: tyler811
Pulls up chair and cracks open :beer: to watch fireworks

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All dogs pitbulls or not should be chained or in a fenced yard. My neighbors dogs run all over the damn neighborhood and coming into my yard. No one has any idea what diseases
they might pick up and drop off in my yard. I am now getting a fence put up around my yard to keep the little $%^$#@ out.


Chained doesn't work. My dad had a pit bull that was chained up. One of the neighbor kids decided they would step on our lawn - the pit bull BROKE a link of chain and took after him...luckily my dad was there to call him off. As far as the dog was concerned he was just protecting his property. They are very aggressive...even when you think that they are nice to all people it isn't always true.
 

Captante

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Stop with all the anti-pitbull bullsht. Other breeds bite too, they just don't make for sensational headlines. Stop listening to the talking heads. Do some research, get some facts, then come back and talk intelligently.

Statistically, pitbulls are responsible for more attacks then any other breed out there.
Additionally, pitbull attacks are generalyl worse then attacks by other dogs.

You can argue how good the dog is, how friendly the breed is etc etc but the simple facts show otherwise.

It still comes down to the owner. I've had several dogs that were deemed by the public to be dangerous. Two of which were actually my sisters' dogs. One was a brindle and the other a chow/pit mix. Both were great family dogs but her boyfriend played really rough with them thus causing them to be mean. Then when my ex-girfriend and I were together we ended up purchasing a Rotty named Blaze. He was great. Great with people, kids, and other animals as well.

The reason why pitbull attacks in general are more severe is due to their lockjaw. When they bite, they latch on.

Pit Bulls don't have locking jaws... thats a myth... they also don't even have nearly the hardest bite of dogs commonly though of as aggressive, that honor goes to the Rottweiler
which can apply over 150lbs bite pressure as opposed to a pure pit bull which max's out around 100lbs.
Rotts are another dog with a reputation for being aggressive that simply isn't real, they are also great pets (as you know) & are highly recomended for familys by the same American kennel club.

 
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