PJ's Gigabyte 8INXP

mechBgon · Jan 11, 2003

I guess the other thing is that SCSI is not very tolerant of out-of-spec PCI bus, so maybe IDE is better in the end.

P4spooky · Jan 11, 2003

PJ:

Can you check if onboard sound is working for you at anything higher than 150FSB. Mine is dead at 150FSB and beyond (Aopen AX4R+)

Thanks

jpetermann · Jan 11, 2003

Well, I don't use onboard sound. If I get a chance to ghost the drive I will try it on that drive so I don't have any extra drivers on the drive to conflict. My audigy is fine to 170 fsb, though I have not got the machine stable there yet.

PJ

P4spooky · Jan 11, 2003

PJ:

Don't bother. Mine is fixed. See my thread for details. Thanks for your help.

jpetermann · Jan 11, 2003

Ok, I think I have reached my o'clock limit. I really had hoped to get 170 fsb out of this, but for now, I think I am at my chips limit. I posted and booted into windows at 168, but it was way unstable. Would go through the Sandra mem test, but that was it. Crashed in 3d mark. I even tried lowering the ram timings (though I did not think it was necessary since I have xms 3200 and I was only at 336ddr). None of it worked. The only things I can think of are: CPU is at its limit, or the Raid card can't take that high of a fsb (though I would not know why with the pci/agp locked). So for now, I have backed down to 166 and will do some more benches now. If anyone has any other suggestions, I would be glad to hear them.

By the way, temps at 168 fsb and vcore at 1.65 bios (1.68 in sandra and easytune utility) were only 38-40c with a light load. Really good I thought! Will post more as I go.

PJ

By the way, mem scores went DOWN at 168 fsb, thought that was wierd...

TheCoz · Jan 11, 2003

Here's a post I just made over at the overclockers.com forum..............

Well, I've finally got some figures for my new P4G8X Deluxe!! I installed the board last night after running some benchies on a clean WinXP install on my old BD7II. I tried the best I could to get an apples-to-apples comparison between my old i845E board and the new E7205 one. Because my BD7II couldn't run a 1:1 memory ratio above a 166MHz FSB (no matter what timings I used) I used that FSB speed as the starting point for my Granite Bay overclocking. In fact, the first time my P4G8X completed a POST was at 166MHz FSB!!!

After running the same benchies at 166MHz FSB as I did on the BD7II, I cranked the speed up to reach the maximum of what my system could manage. At that speed I ran all those benchies again. The #1 factor limiting my OC was my CPU, most likely this was due to heat. I was using the stock Intel HSF and idle temps were often around 45-50*C and load temps were nearing 60*C. System temps were fine though - 29-33*C, this leads me to believe that the stock HSF just wasn't up to the task for my own particular CPU frequency and vcore. I need watercooling badly.

Anyway here are some results......

Test Settings.....
Clean WinXP install, no updates or service packs, NVIDIA Ref Drivers 41.09, Intel chipset drivers 4.10.1012, P4G8X BIOS 1003, GF4 Ti4600 @ 300/700. Sandra ver 2003.1.9.31, Quake2 ver3.20, Quake3 original ver, Windows Media Encoder v9.0, PCMark2002, 3DMark2001SE build 330.

BD7II, 166MHz FSB, 2.83GHz, DDR333
P4G8X, 166MHz FSB, 2.83GHz, DCDDR333
P4G8X, 177MHz FSB, 3.01GHz, DCDDR354, CPU vcore 1.65v

Sandra Memory Bandwidth Test

BD7II 166 - 2550MB/s
P4G8X 166 - 4075MB/s
P4G8X 177 - 4375MB/s

3DMark2001SE build. 330, Default Settings

BD7II 166 - 13,649
P4G8X 166 - 14,117
P4G8X 177 - 14,562
P4G8X 177 - 15,006 (GF4 315/735)

3DMark2001SE build. 330, 640x480x32

BD7II 166 - 15,933
P4G8X 166 - 17,078
P4G8X 177 - 18,060

Quake2 v3.20, 800x600x32 (Q2 for a laugh!)

BD7II 166 - 516.1 fps
P4G8X 166 - 563.4 fps
P4G8X 177 - 590.9 fps

Quake3A, Demo1.dm3, original release, Fastest Setting

BD7II 166 - 379.4 fps
P4G8X 166 - 411.1 fps
P4G8X 177 - 451.1 fps

Windows Media Encoder v9.0, 424MB MPEG movie encode

BD7II 166 - 993 secs
P4G8X 166 - 953 secs
P4G8X 177 - 887 secs

PCMark2002 Memory Test

BD7II 166 - 6605
P4G8X 166 - 7758
P4G8X 177 - 8179

Well, that's all for now folks. Overall, I'm very pleased with this board. The performance isn't Earth-shattering but it's a nice little boost and it feels faster to me than the other board too. My main reason for getting a GB board was to get rid of my POS BD7II because of all the problems I had with it. The BD7II just wouldn't have a 1:1 memory setting above 166MHz so that limited my overclocking because of having to use the 4:3 memory setting (which made my DDR speed suck!!). The P4G8X is a very nice board but if you've got a DDR400+ single-channel board then it may not be worth the money. It was certainly worth it for me though.

caboob · Jan 11, 2003

PJ:

is 1.65 volts the highest you're taking your cpu? youshould at least be able to go 1.75V which is intel's recommended voltage ceiling. but i understand paying a premuim for intel chips and wanting to maintain longevity.

TheCoz · Jan 11, 2003

Originally posted by: caboob
is 1.65 volts the highest you're taking your cpu? youshould at least be able to go 1.75V which is intel's recommended voltage ceiling. but i understand paying a premuim for intel chips and wanting to maintain longevity.

Are you talking to me or PJ? We're both maxing-out at 1.65v by the looks of it.

My P4G8X Deluxe overvolts while the system is idle.

eg. When BIOS is set to 1.60v vcore the actual reading is 1.68v!!!

Then, when under load the vcore reading drops to almost exactly the same as the BIOS setting. I don't have good enough cooling to try more vcore. When I get some H20 lovin' then maybe......

caboob · Jan 11, 2003

i was reffering to pj, but i guess 1.65V is his most stable max voltage.

jpetermann · Jan 11, 2003

Originally posted by: caboob
PJ:

is 1.65 volts the highest you're taking your cpu? youshould at least be able to go 1.75V which is intel's recommended voltage ceiling. but i understand paying a premuim for intel chips and wanting to maintain longevity.

Yeah, I don't want to push it past 1.7 at all. Since it seems to overvolt, I can safely go to 1.65 in bios.
PJ

THUGSROOK · Jan 11, 2003

nice work PJ

P4m next?
...been keeping a close eye on Mikki's thread

jpetermann · Jan 11, 2003

Thugs,
It is a definite possibility. Have a big puter show here in Chicago in 2 weeks. May try and get on e there. If I can wait!!! Mikki's thread is interesting to say the least! Still wishin I could get 170 here, gotta be my chip.

PJ

Mikki · Jan 11, 2003

Still looking good tho PJ, I wanna try a GB board as much as you'd like to try a 1.7m! hehe...nice work mate...

Mikki · Jan 11, 2003

Hey PJ, I'd love to see some progressive benchies if you have a chance...

jpetermann · Jan 11, 2003

Progressive... as in , go back to like 140, 145, 150, 155 and so forth. Will be workin on those ASAP. It is going slow cuase I have not felt real good. Hope to get some done tonight.

PJ

THUGSROOK · Jan 11, 2003

take your time PJ, and hope you feel better

Mikki · Jan 11, 2003

Yeah, take your time, bud....hope ya feel better!

jpetermann · Jan 11, 2003

Updates up top. Sandra mem, file system and 3d mark in progression. I don't have Quake 3 to run anything on that. Sorry. If I can run something else for anyone, let me know.

PJ

Mikki · Jan 11, 2003

Nice results PJ! If you wanna grab the UT2003 benchmark, there's a link to it in SCK's thread in the OC forum...

jpetermann · Jan 12, 2003

Mikki got me a drooling with this p4m thing. So I think I am gonna get one, I already ordered some 2x512 xms 3500. So, I think I will be a screaming at 225+ that is the goal anyways. Imagine the possiblities!!! :Q

PJ

jpetermann · Jan 12, 2003

P4m will be here this week, Wed. or Thurs. Full review at weeks end!!

PJ

THUGSROOK · Jan 13, 2003

the OC forum is gonna be real busy this week with P4m madness

mechBgon · Jan 13, 2003

Originally posted by: pastorjay
Updates up top. Sandra mem, file system and 3d mark in progression. I don't have Quake 3 to run anything on that. Sorry. If I can run something else for anyone, let me know.

PJ

If you have WinZip 8.1 and classic Unreal Tournament, you could do the WinZip/UT Maximum Compression benchmark... it seems to rely heavily on the CPU/memory/chipset love triangle.

Make a New Folder on your system drive
Copy the contents of UT Disc 1 to the New Folder (including hidden/system files)
Shut off any interfering programs, of course, such as antivirus software
Right-click on the New Folder, choose WinZip > Add to Zip file..., select Maximum (slowest) compression in the panel that appears, and begin timing as you click Add.
Stop timing when the progress bar disappears

So far, 1m27s is the time to beat (P4 2.53GHz/i850E/PC1066 RDRAM).

P4spooky · Jan 13, 2003

Both of you guys (PJ and Thugs) have a P4M coming? I can't wait for your reviews. With prices going down I might get one of these for a dual channel DDR400

Flakk · Jan 13, 2003

Who makes the P4M? I havent heard of this

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