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[OffTopic1]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: azazyel
Not to get in the middle of this but there is a huge difference between a 17yr old and a 23yr old. I am not sure if you have ever read them but the mindset list by Beloit makes me cringe

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For me my late teens and early 20's were the times that I changed/grew the most as a person. But hey if you think you can make it work good for you.


(16-18)
-in highschool
-live w/ parents
-involved in school activites/part time job
-planning on college
-planning senior trip/ Prom
-might have a credit card/ some bills
-does not drink or has to steal/bootleg alcohol


23+
-lived without parents for ~5 years
-pays bills (rent, phone, util, etc)
-graduated college
-has had sex with more than 5 people
-been able to buy booze for 2 years

Well again this depends on the person...
17-19
US Navy
left home at 16...
In charge of a 80 million dollar aircraft..
on a Nuclear weapons loading team responsible for learnign EXACTING PROCEDURES.
already had made 3 trips around the world..
already had had sex with over 10 people..
able to get into any club with a Military ID..

During this time I met MANY 17 year old girls and men that were WAY more mature and professional than ANYONE on this board.
Different Circumstances = Different maturity levels..
If I am old enough to serve my country and load nuclear weps im sure as hell old enough and mature enough to date a 24 year olf or above woman...
and Vice versa for Military girls that join at 17...

I dont see the problem here at all.. it is NOT a black and white situation...

LOL, I was 19/20 when I dated my 29 year old TA that taught me much more than history

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: CVSiN
How is that any less evil in your eyes?
she is only 23.. he is a 55 year old man..
that should be illegal..
how is a 23 year old dating a almost 18 year old any different?
you guys said it was intrests..

what could this 23 year old possibly have in common with Billy Joel... except maybe HIS MONEY...

I dont see the good vs bad line... here.. i see Billy Joel as much more the dirty old man than I see the posters friend...

the difference is that at 17, the girl doesn't know what she wants. at 23, kate lee knows that she wants to be a golddigging whore and billy joel knows that he wants to fvck the brains out of a WOMAN less than twice his age.


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I did a 17 old chick once, so fvcking what?

How old were you at the time though?

- M4H

13

Well then, you's a Pimp, son.

- M4H

The wenches, the tequila, oh yeah, i am ready.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Gulzakar
it's not that bad...7 year diff at most... I've seen worse.

Jusdge not by the age but the age within.

I think as long as nothing sexual happens, it isn't illegal, right?

Ummm, WTF are you watching?

 

[Tremulant]

When I was 15-17 all the girls I knew were too immature for me. But I've always related more with slightly (like 1-2 years) older women/girls.

 

[Lothar1974]

It's sick! 19 is OK but come on 16. At 16 their still freakin kids! If I ever have a daughter and I find out theres a 23 year old guy going after her, he's going to be a portrait on a milk container! This guys going after 16 year olds because he cant handle a woman! Or better yet get one!

 

[Metron]

Originally posted by: booger711
here's the rule for dating younger girls.
the youngest age you can date is half your age + 7 years. so in this case 11.5+7 = 18.5

So Michael Douglas (60) and Catherine Zeta Jones (35) are in trouble then... 60/2 = 30 +7 = 37, but they've been married for 4 years now.

<smirk>

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Eli
Yeah, I'm a pedophile because I wanted to fvck a virgin 17 year old because i ejaculate prematurely and girls my age would laugh in my face? Right.

Again, why can't you just let people live their lives? I would agree with you if we were talking about a 13 year old, but you absolutely cannot say that about every teenager. WTF?

I have met 30 year old women that are less mature than my girlfriend.

You can take your sweeping generalizations about people under the age of 18 and shove them up your ass.

fixed.


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Hey man, shut the fsck up. You've gone WAY too far with this.

For the record, we dated for 7 months before we had sex.

It has nothing to do with age. Absolutely nothing. It has everything to do with two individuals deciding that they like eachother. I dated an older woman before I met my current girlfriend.

So just shove it up your ass, OK?

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Why do you put so much imporance in an arbitrary number? It all depends on the persons maturity level. Like I said, there are older women with the maturity level of a teenager, just like there are teenagers with the maturity level of an older women. If you don't believe that, then you are blind.

Do you think I would have even given her a second look if she was a stupid ditzy teenager with the brain of an amoeba? Of course not.

Grow up.

okay okay ... now i was with Eli on this one until this post and seeing his past reactions. speaking of maturity levels, the way you are reacting to a comment from a guy, on an internet forum, who you do not even know in person and will have no affect on your life ever, is what i would say is very IMMATURE. you are getting all worked up over this, and you keep going at the name calling and sounding like a little immature kid. i know he's egging on your actions, but you sound very ignorant when you type out of rage or whatever you call it.

and for the record, your girl may act mature, but from the pic in your sig i would have to say that she looks like a little girl. but again, i know its not all looks in a relationship, and i guess she's very mature, as you say and are ...

So now I'm immature because he pissed me off with his.. immature comments?

Ok. Whatever you say. It pissed me off that he could pass judgement on someone that he doesen't know so easily.

The picture of her in my sig is from when she was 15, almost 2 years before we met. I like that picture, so I haven't changed it.. but I suppose I could.

Edit:

Just for the record, I'm not condoning a 16 year old being with a 23 year old. That is very borderline, even in my pedophiliac eyes. NEO's first comments was regarding a couple that was 17 and a few weeks from turning 18, with a 23 year old. There is nothing wrong with that. If someone is old enough to live on their own and die for their country, they're old enough to date whoever they damn well please.

At that point, it is not anybodys right to say what is "wrong" and "right". Obviously, if the two didn't get along, they wouldn't be together.. so the point is moot.

If you're telling me that an arbitrary number can make a healthy, happy relationship "wrong", I am here to tell you that you are incorrect.

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: wiredspider
I'm 17 (but will be 18 in just 2 weeks) and my bf is 23. I've got to say there is nothing wrong with it, if they are both mature about it.

your bf is a loser. he can't meet the expectations of girls his age, so he goes after younger girls who don't know any better.

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Shut the fsck up you fscking prick.

I mean what the hell?

Would you say the same thing if it was 28 and 33?

Don't be such an asshole, and grow up.

don't like the truth, eh? what the hell does a girl know at 17? absolutely nothing - she doesn't know enough about herself, let alone know enough about relationships to know what she wants. at 23, the guy is just a loser taking advantage of a younger girl, plain and simple. when i met my g/f (we were both 15) she was dating a 19 year old. at the time, she thought that the relationship was fine. but now (at 22) she see's how wrong it was.

that's the difference. at 17, the girl is young, immature, impreshionable, and thinks that it's "cool" to have an older bf. at 23, the guy should have enough of a brain to realize this and not be such a loser ass homo, get some balls, and learn how to satisfy a girl his own age. at 30 you can go ahead and date a 24 year old - the woman is, well.....a WOMAN. not a 17 yr old TEENAGER.


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Again with sweeping generalizations...
you cannot say this about every 17 year old on the planet..
I have met 17 year olds that carry wisdom and maturity well beyond thier years...
male and female..
then again I have met 17 year olds that i woulda swore were 5...

same goes for any age...
people mature at differnet rates..

Agreed. My last girlfriend was just about to turn 18, I'm 23. Wasn't exactly thrilled about falling for an underage girl, but she didn't act like she was 17, in fact most of my friends over the age of 21 are a lot more juvenile than she ever was.

I judge people by their character, not their age.

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Eli
Asshole.

pedophile.


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ped·o·phile Audio pronunciation of "pedophile" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pd-fl, pd-)
n.

An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.

pedo·philic (-flk) adj.


17 year olds are not children. They're barely teenagers.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: MuffD
I don't care if he looks 16 or younger, he's 23 and dating a minor. That's against the law! Can't he meet someone his own age? Assuming she was under 18.

Sorry, didn't read the whole thread, but....

Dating a minor is probably just fine. It's having sex with the minor that's the issue... (of course, the two just sort of go together)

Someone who is 23 and someone who is 16 just don't have a whole hell of a lot in common, and any kind of meaningful relationship is difficult/impossible.

How can you say that they dont have anything in common...
thats just close minded bs..
you dont know the people involved..
maybe in your life you have not met anyone 5 years younger that has your same intrests but to say that globally thats impossible?
thats just close minded and ignorant..
at 33 i have alot in common with people that are in thier 20s and up.. over 10 years and there is alot that clicks with peeps in the age range...

Closed-minded BS? More like reality, pal.

I'm 36, so I know what you're talking about with regard to people in their 20s. However, there is a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE difference between a girl who is 22 and one who is 16.

 

[Crucial]

I was 23 when I started dating my wife. She was 17 at the time. 6 years later we are now happily married with 2 children. Her family loves me and is very happy we met.

 

[Noirish]

I'll tell her to come back when she's 18.

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Perhaps the OP needs to be more precise about the girl's age. He said he thinks she's between 16 and 18.

Regardless, the difference in age makes more of a difference the younger the 2 people involved are.
If a 18 year old started dating a 11 year old, that'd just be wrong. A 23 year old and a 16 year old is still wrong. A 29 year old and a 22 year old is better. And a 40 year old and a 33 year old is a lot better. Sorry I can't explain it to you if you don't understand.

I agree with you on all counts.

The funny thing about this entire thread is that the OP is GUESSING about the girl's age. She could very well be a 21 year old who happens to look very young.

In the spirit of the discussion, I'm 29 and most 21 year-olds still seem pretty clueless about a lot of things. It comes down to a matter of maturity and life experience.

 

[NetWareHead]

Alot of morons posting in this thread give age to much importance and come off sounding like complete assholes to people that know better. :roll: I've never had a problem dating girls/women not my age...When I was 19 I dated a 24 yr old, when I was 20 I dated a 16 yr old, when I was 21 I was dating a 32 yr old, when I was 22 I dated an 18 year old.

You people need to realize that its not strictly a black and white matter. I def agre with Eli and the likes saying age is not an important number, unless you are breaking the law. Some girls come off as extremely mature, both physically and mentally, and then when you hear their real age, you need to take a step back and decide if you still want to pursue them. As long as the age difference wasn't illegal and the girl was mature, it never really bothered me.,

 

[wiredspider]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I think it's none of my business.

I think that is probably the best answer in the whole thread.

I'm the girl that will turn 18 in less than 2 weeks with the 23 year old bf. I don't think the bf wants to take advantage me (well, duh of course I'm gonna say that...), but I fail to see where there would be a "coolness" factor in having an older bf. I guess maybe as a HS freshman? As a college freshman I don't really go around bragging I have an older bf who can buy beer! That was just a ridiculous assumption.

And then there is always this "magical 18" factor, it makes you a "legal adult" in the eyes of the law, but you can still be so immature and act like a child of much younger age...

All I have right now since it's 1 AM and I'm not done reading the chapter I'm being quizzed on tomorrow.

 

[cmdavid]

23 and 19 isnt too bad.. 23 and 16 is....

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: NetWareHead
Alot of morons posting in this thread give age to much importance and come off sounding like complete assholes to people that know better. :roll: I've never had a problem dating girls/women not my age...When I was 19 I dated a 24 yr old, when I was 20 I dated a 16 yr old, when I was 21 I was dating a 32 yr old, when I was 22 I dated an 18 year old.

You people need to realize that its not strictly a black and white matter. I def agre with Eli and the likes saying age is not an important number, unless you are breaking the law. Some girls come off as extremely mature, both physically and mentally, and then when you hear their real age, you need to take a step back and decide if you still want to pursue them. As long as the age difference wasn't illegal and the girl was mature, it never really bothered me.,

It's kind of like virginity. I remember a lot of guys here saying that premartial sex is wrong and that they are gonna wait til they are married. But guess what? A lot of them aren't virgins anymore.

I have a feeling the guys who are the loudest objectors will someday be one of those 40 something year old men who divorce their old wives and go out with a 20 year old women.

 

[ZachMarius]

Originally posted by: wiredspider

Originally posted by: phreakah

Originally posted by: PremiumG
17 years old and

A+, NET+, MCSA, MCSE certified???

and she's a girl :Q

Yup and yup , would be MCDBA if I could get the time and energy to take the one test (needed two, taken one of them so far).

Kudos to you!!!

 

[EGGO]

For a 16 year old, 20 is the max I'd allow personally.

 

[ohtwell]

More than likely the guy is just too immature to have a relationship with anyone who is out of highschool. He'll probably be like Matthew McConaughey's character in Dazed and Confused. Anyone who has seen the movie knows what I'm talking about.

Wooderson - "That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age."

The girl ... I want even mention her, because I wouldn't want to offend anyone who posts here.


A 16 year old should not be dating a 23 year old. I wouldn't want my 16 year old daughter dating someone who was already out of high school. That's just my personal opinion though.


: ) Amanda

 

[DivideBYZero]

When you have all stopped spouting venom at certain members you can all go back to fapping over Lindsay Lohan pics.


Who has only just turned 18.

Hypocrites.

 

[MrMaster]

This thread is interesting not because of the OP's situation but how many people view age differences in relationships.

I was dating someone 8 years younger than me (under 21) that unfortunately had the emotional state of a 15 year old. I thought college would help and it didn't.

Now, I am interested in another under 21 yr old that is exactly the same age as my ex but "seems" to be extremely mature and actually has her head on straight (at least for her age).

The problems with dating anyone under 21 is it DOES limit choices and people DO change especially after they turn 21. It is very likely that you may not recognize the person you use to date after the age of 21. You really don't "find yourself" or figure out who you are until later in life. It might be that you do know yourself but aren't necessarily confident in yourself until later on in life.


I know I have changed a lot(for the better I have been told) since getting out of college.

 

[todpod]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Its illegal in PA.

If she is 16 its not illegal in PA, The rule in PA is 16 + is fair game. Under 16 its less then 4 years. 15 &amp; 19 illegal, 15 and 18 and 364 days a-ok. You local PA child welfare worker here

 

[thomsbrain]

if he's immature enough to get along with a 16 year old, let him.

i understand that you don't want minors to be taken advantage of, but honestly, at 16, that girl is going to be having sex one way or another, and i don't think it makes the slightest bit of difference if the guy is over or under 18. she's still getting porked.

 

[mitaiwan82]

Originally posted by: ohtwell
More than likely the guy is just too immature to have a relationship with anyone who is out of highschool. He'll probably be like Matthew McConaughey's character in Dazed and Confused. Anyone who has seen the movie knows what I'm talking about.

Wooderson - "That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age."

The girl ... I want even mention her, because I wouldn't want to offend anyone who posts here.


A 16 year old should not be dating a 23 year old. I wouldn't want my 16 year old daughter dating someone who was already out of high school. That's just my personal opinion though.


: ) Amanda

LOL:thumbsup:

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