You complain about the FE price even though we have official announcement of 1080 selling at $600. Nobody said they would get the FE at day one, those who will certainly won't be posting in this thread.AMD likes to play their cards close to their chest, for better or for worse, and usually reveal peformance and/or features at launch date. Remember 480 vs 800sp final RV770 that made a joke out of GT200 at half the die size and 90-100% the performance while consuming the same or less? Eyefinity? Only a few key people developed that and got it included in the 5870, it was a secret until launch date.
Besides, it's been repeated ad nauseum and known that P10 doesn't target the same market segment GP104 does, so there's no point in comparing a card that has its competition in the GTX1060 (~980Ti -20-30%?), not in the 1070 (~980Ti) nor 1080 (~980Ti +20-30%).
Having said that, if you can't wait less than a month to see what's up with the option that will provide (as far as we know, this could change) around 80% (~390x/980) of the 1070's (~980Ti) performance at about ~40-50% the cost ($200 vs ≥$450, it's blower-scam edition with founder's-scam tax at first, then decent $380 custom cards later), then go ahead and get an overpriced early adopter 1070 if you must have a 1070 as soon as they go on sale. It's your money after all and you seem to have made your mind up already on this matter.
There could also be a suprirse in store that hasn't been announced since 2304sp/36CU sounds like a salvaged part, most likely there is a 2560sp/40CU "full" P10 card (beefed up 8GB edition?).
That card if available will get dangerously close to the 1070, if not being an equal in paper specs that could very well outperform it if GCN4's architectural changes are sound (2560sp at the rumored 1250MHz clockspeed for 2304sp P10 is around 6.5TF of theoretical compute performance, same as listed for the 1070). At the reveal AMD did mention $200-300 as the price range for Polaris, so there has to be something else at the $300 price point and below that. $230 is the 8GB RX 480, that's already known.
If you get 1070's performance for $300 should this card exist, it's a much better value vs $380 custom 1070 or $450 scam edition 1070. $200 RX 480 is already quite the value vs the 1070, if you have no need for the extra 20% performance it provides (1080p60 is the target here)
If I were you, I'd wait until the 29 for this very possibility.
50% of the cost? That would be $190 why the hell do people have to keep exaggerating the hell out of everything?
Not really. The 1070 is around 35% faster than 390X if I am not wrong. So being faster than 390X won't mean it's all that close to 1070.5
But now you are changing your tune - first you said you want to get a GTX1070 and only would get a RX480 at a lower cost it it consistently beat a R9 390X which means close to a GTX1070. So for some weird reason you really want to go with Nvidia,and will only get an AMD card if it is nearly a GTX1070 for $150 less??
Why are you wanting to pay more dollars per FPS since it has a Nvidia badge on it?? It seems really weird.
In the end the RX480 is still better price/performance and since you have an HD7850,it will be a big upgrade and you are worried about 20% to 30% which won't make much if any difference for 65% more.
It's really annoying how the hardware media keeps ignoring this issue. Brilliant con by Nvidia if you ask me.Please enlighten us to where we can buy this mythical $379 MSRP 1070?
Likewise if you're going to do that, try to find the 1080s that are in retail now for $599. -_-
When you've found those, then you can accuse folks of exaggeration. Until then, it's actually you that are incorrect.
Omg so where can you buy this mythical 8GB 480 for $230?Please enlighten us to where we can buy this mythical $379 MSRP 1070?
Likewise if you're going to do that, try to find the 1080s that are in retail now for $599. -_-
When you've found those, then you can accuse folks of exaggeration. Until then, it's actually you that are incorrect.
Not really. The 1070 is around 35% faster than 390X if I am not wrong. So being faster than 390X won't mean it's all that close to 1070.
I doubt you'll see much quantity of the MSRP priced ones, since the reference is priced at $70-100 more. We shall see, but so far it's looking like deceptive advertisement to me.Omg so where can you buy this mythical 8GB 480 for $230?
Your post is ridiculous we are all waiting and I would wait longer if I know it would be worth it. AIBs have already announced $600 1080s waiting for something that is 100% confirmed should not be difficult for any value oriented buyer. Similarly I see no reason why we won't see $380 1070s announced on 10th June.
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Omg so where can you buy this mythical 8GB 480 for $230?
Similarly I see no reason why we won't see $380 1070s announced on 10th June.
You complain about the FE price even though we have official announcement of 1080 selling at $600. Nobody said they would get the FE at day one, those who will certainly won't be posting in this thread.
And yet you keep mentioning the $200 price in comparison to the 1070. And did you just say that the 1070 would be 20% faster than 480? I mean your exaggerations and outlandish assumptions show how neutral you are lol.
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Omg so where can you buy this mythical 8GB 480 for $230?
Edit: Since some of you may fail to grasp the point. If RX 480 is even 390X + 10%, it's very close to a 980Ti and thus, a 1070.
Wrong.
1440p, TPU's charts.
I have a 1080p screen which I am sure most people thinking of buying a sub $300 card do.Wrong.
1440p, TPU's charts.
A 980Ti is 61 -> 73, or ~20% faster than a 390X.
The 1070 is ~ 980Ti, this is over 22 games benchmark. Not a small cherry pick handful.
http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review-22-games-tested-at-1080p-1440p/
Edit: Since some of you may fail to grasp the point. If RX 480 is even 390X + 10%, it's very close to a 980Ti and thus, a 1070.
I have a 1080p screen which I am sure most people thinking of buying a sub $300 card do.
980Ti is 25% faster than 390X and I believe the 1070 is ahead of the 980Ti at 1080p. Just wait for the TPU review I can bet the 1070 will be at least 30% ahead of 390X at 1080p.
I have a 1080p screen which I am sure most people thinking of buying a sub $300 card do.
980Ti is 25% faster than 390X and I believe the 1070 is ahead of the 980Ti at 1080p. Just wait for the TPU review I can bet the 1070 will be at least 30% ahead of 390X at 1080p.
Yes, and anyone with a 1080 screen and a sub-$300 budget would never look at a 1070.
Nah 1440p remains a dual card resolution as far as I am concerned. The 1080 will at max handle it fine for a year. I like to keep my cards for a long time and 1080p at 4xAA remains quite a demanding situation for single cards. This whole thing about a GPU being overkill is absolutely ridiculous.Yes, and anyone with a 1080 screen and a sub-$300 budget would never look at a 1070.
Not all budget gamers are severely restricted with funds. I just don't like to spend too much on a GPU because of how fast they depreciate. I much rather upgrade more frequently which seems the more logical path to me.Well apparently some people think budget gamers can magically double up in price just because.
I was thinking about buying a $380 card.You were talking about buying a $449 1070. 1440p is reasonable expectations for that price.
If TPU does open-bench testing without prior warming up the cards, then sure, the 1070 will be falsely a lot faster than it actually is.
Heck, even [H] which gets blasted, they actually do pre-warm up testing despite being on an open bench.
Do you remember what happened to the 1080 at Computerbase? When actually put in a gaming case and not open-bench, and given a warm up period? Clocks drop from 1.89ghz to close to base clocks. Over 200mhz of performance, gone!
If you want consistent performance, it's the custom cards that hold their high boost clocks. But to compare reference card, it's not accurate to say it's faster than a 980Ti.
I am with you here. I will buy whatever has the best bang per buck. Which is why I usually end up buying like a high end card but not enthusiast grade ones.Not all budget gamers are severely restricted with funds. I just don't like to spend too much on a GPU because of how fast they depreciate. I much rather upgrade more frequently which seems the more logical path to me.
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50% of the cost? That would be $190 why the hell do people have to keep exaggerating the hell out of everything?
If the 480 is 30% slower that would be pretty bad because then it would be identical to the 390. I think the word you are looking for here is "faster". If the 1070 is 30% faster than 480 then it makes the AMD great value but not exactly a 1070 killer.
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The 8GB 480 is not $200, that's the only version you can compare to the 1070.$190 is very close to $199... $9 difference is hardly "exaggerating the hell out of everything".
Also compared to the actual launch price of 1070 @ $450 its 44% the cost. Have any AIB / $380 cards been announced as launching before the 480 launches on the 29th?
It's not by much, of course in due course of time even flagship Maxwell will most likely be gimped just as Kepler was, but that's a separate can of worms D:I have a 1080p screen which I am sure most people thinking of buying a sub $300 card do.
980Ti is 25% faster than 390X and I believe the 1070 is ahead of the 980Ti at 1080p. Just wait for the TPU review I can bet the 1070 will be at least 30% ahead of 390X at 1080p.
Not necessarily, depending on game (resolution) the 480 is a viable alternative to the 1070 at nearly half the price!The 8GB 480 is not $200, that's the only version you can compare to the 1070.
$600 1080s have been announced. There is literally no reason to think that there won't be a $380 1070.
And you can't assume that the 1070 will have supply issues and not 480.
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The 8GB 480 is not $200, that's the only version you can compare to the 1070.
$600 1080s have been announced. There is literally no reason to think that there won't be a $380 1070.
And you can't assume that the 1070 will have supply issues and not 480.
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The 8GB 480 is not $200, that's the only version you can compare to the 1070.
$600 1080s have been announced. There is literally no reason to think that there won't be a $380 1070.
And you can't assume that the 1070 will have supply issues and not 480.
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