POLE: Dream Theater vs Tool

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Ilmater

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
And yeah, Labrie (sadly), turns off so many people to DT. I wonder what their fanbase would be like with a different singer.
I just tried to listen to clips of about 10 songs on Amazon.com. Granted not a great base, but I can already tell that I won't be able to stand that lead singer. Terrible.
 

Ns1

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I finally gave DT a chance and I still think Tool pwns them.

Best Tool song is probably Lateralus imho.

I should also say that yes, the guys in DT are incredibly talented, but musically, I would rather listen to Too by far.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
I finally gave DT a chance and I still think Tool pwns them.

Best Tool song is probably Lateralus imho.

I should also say that yes, the guys in DT are incredibly talented, but musically, I would rather listen to Too by far.

what of DT did you listen too?

if you like tool, like i said, listen to John Petrucci's solo cd instead of DT.. no signing (yay) and its alot more free than DT.

here is a link to a myspace page with four of petrucci's songs... lilnk
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
I finally gave DT a chance and I still think Tool pwns them.

Best Tool song is probably Lateralus imho.

I should also say that yes, the guys in DT are incredibly talented, but musically, I would rather listen to Too by far.

what of DT did you listen too?

if you like tool, like i said, listen to John Petrucci's solo cd instead of DT.. no signing (yay) and its alot more free than DT.

here is a link to a myspace page with four of petrucci's songs... lilnk

my friend is a huge metal head, so he gave me 4 of their albums. Octavarium, Awake, Images and Words, and Train of Thought

 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
I finally gave DT a chance and I still think Tool pwns them.

Best Tool song is probably Lateralus imho.

I should also say that yes, the guys in DT are incredibly talented, but musically, I would rather listen to Too by far.

what of DT did you listen too?

if you like tool, like i said, listen to John Petrucci's solo cd instead of DT.. no signing (yay) and its alot more free than DT.

here is a link to a myspace page with four of petrucci's songs... lilnk

my friend is a huge metal head, so he gave me 4 of their albums. Octavarium, Awake, Images and Words, and Train of Thought

yea, those are probably the best... if only they had a different singer...

 

CKent

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Both incredible bands. I voted for Tool. Gotta wonder how many Tool haters feel that way because of the band's stance on religion - I know AT is a predominantly christian crowd.
 

Starbuck1975

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Back to the OP, you can't really compare Tool to Dream Theater...the musical styles of both are completely different, even if they both fall under the somewhat generic term "heavy metal" or "hard rock."

Dream Theater is a progressive rock band...influenced by classic bands like Rush, Genesis, Queen, etc. If you listen to the compilation cover track on Change of Seasons, you definitely get a better feel for their musical influences...also, most of the members of Dream Theater are classically trained...I believe a few of them studies at the Berkeley school in Boston...not many of their songs work for the video or radio play format, as they are simply too long.

Tool I think more adequately fits into the angst filled music of the early to mid 1990s...I think there are more similarities between Tool and NIN, then Tool and DT. Tool's lyrics definitely have some depth to them...certainly make a statement...but most of their songs are video/radio friendly, perhaps explaining why they are more well known.

I like both bands for different reasons...I also like the side projects from the respective members of each band.

But Tool & DT...it's an apples and oranges comparison.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: RBachman
Both incredible bands. I voted for Tool. Gotta wonder how many Tool haters feel that way because of the band's stance on religion - I know AT is a predominantly christian crowd.

Uh..last time I checked there were quite a lot of non-religious people here.
 

Modeps

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Of course I have to say Tool. Mostly because I've been listening to them since Opiate was released. I've seen them three times in concert (for me, that's a lot).

Why do I like Tool? Maynard's voice is the most hypnotic thing I've ever heard. Combined with the epic albums... easily my favorite band of all time.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: RBachman
Both incredible bands. I voted for Tool. Gotta wonder how many Tool haters feel that way because of the band's stance on religion - I know AT is a predominantly christian crowd.

you obviously haven't been here too long
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Their styles are completely different, you cannot compare these two bands.

they're both prog rock

they are???

i would agree with DT but Tool i wouldn't consider prog.
DT rocks, when I think Tool, i think MTV. When I think MTV, i think stupid losers who always follow the popular ****** and never bother to check out anything else and like wannabe goth tards.
 

pontifex

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its poll, not pole

why do so many people do this wrong? doesn't it even say poll on the button you click to add a poll?
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: RBachman
Both incredible bands. I voted for Tool. Gotta wonder how many Tool haters feel that way because of the band's stance on religion - I know AT is a predominantly christian crowd.

Uh..last time I checked there were quite a lot of non-religious people here.

Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: RBachman
Both incredible bands. I voted for Tool. Gotta wonder how many Tool haters feel that way because of the band's stance on religion - I know AT is a predominantly christian crowd.

you obviously haven't been here too long

Perhaps I worded it wrong. AT is a predominantly militantly religious crowd. Maybe it's just that the internet's anonymity allows for a more blunt voicing of one's views, or maybe it's that I'm from the northeast where people are more... "passively" religious, whereas ATers are from all over, but I've never seen such vociferous and vehement religious views as I have here.
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: pontifex
its poll, not pole

why do so many people do this wrong? doesn't it even say poll on the button you click to add a poll?

Same reason people say "u", "ur", etc.
 

Heckler 5th

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dunno much about DT. never gave em a shot so i can't comment on them. but tool is indeed my favorite band right now. i've seen em live twice and was totally blown away both times. they take their music seriously and even though their website is full of a bunch of crap, IMO, i respect them as well. i think their refusal to be drawn out into the spotlight is refreshing. yeah, they do interviews and stuff but you don't see their faces smeared all over the place (i.e. marketing their fame).

use your third eye and vote tool already.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Their styles are completely different, you cannot compare these two bands.

they're both prog rock

they are???

i would agree with DT but Tool i wouldn't consider prog.
DT rocks, when I think Tool, i think MTV. When I think MTV, i think stupid losers who always follow the popular ****** and never bother to check out anything else and like wannabe goth tards.

Tool only has like 4 radio friendly songs.
 

Slickone

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Never thought I'd see DT compared to a band like Tool. I suspect the younger crowd here would like Tool more though. Those that don't like DT's singer probably didn't grow up listening to Iron Maiden.

Rush > Queensryche > Dream Theater > Tool.
 

Mr N8

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I don't like James LeBrie, because I think he's the weak link in the band. I saw them a couple of years ago in Chicago, and he couldn't come in on key to save his life. For most rock bands, that's fine, but when you are singing with guys who are classically trained musicians, it's not acceptable. If he sang well with his sound, I would like him.
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: Slickone
Never thought I'd see DT compared to a band like Tool. I suspect the younger crowd here would like Tool more though. Those that don't like DT's singer probably didn't grow up listening to Iron Maiden.

Rush > Queensryche > Dream Theater > Tool.

I'm older & Iron Maiden is my all time favorite band. I'm a big fan of both Tool and DT, but prefer Tool and don't like LaBrie's voice. So there~
 
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