Poll: Athlon or P4!!!!

[kbm5]

Cyrix! YEAH! (As he dodges the tomatoes...)

 

[stockjock]

Atari 400 or the Coleco Adam!!!LOL...go Athlon

 

[han888]

james, i said if enough budget than go to dual p3, i didnt said p3 will better, and about dual amd, when??????? where is polomino? delay???? i think amd can not make their cpu to run smp because of 100fsb ddr, if they can why they dont release that cpu? why they delay? they dont want a profit? bullshit!!!!! everybody want money here! just thinking if you are an amd COE, and u can make dual cpu to against your competitor, why u dont make it?

 

[ALstonLoong]

ALthought i am a intel supporter, but right now i vote amd .P4 is not at its best yet, AMD maybe is your choice right now. If you can wait, wait for 0.13 p4.

 

[joohang]

I think Biggs meant "only 13% more" use Intel. Don't know if that statement shows any significance, though.

I say you go for Athlon. P4 doesn't even have an upgrade path, as its .13-µ version will use a different socket and chipset.

 

[RTSgod]

AMD Athlon all the way.
P4 is slower in some games even at higher clock speeds. Plus it costs more.

 

[jsm]

Alpha. Screw Pentiums and Athlons. I wanna run a 32 processor Alpha box with 256gigs of memory.

 

[flyers1]

Athlon.

No question.

 

[alarcon]

Athlon of course
P3 and P4 are expensive, and not powerful as an Athlon

 

[jamesbond007]

Han, AMD doesn't need to rush their Palomino cores anytime soon for any reason. AMD's Thunderbird beats all of the benchmarks against a SINGLE CPU to SINGLE CPU when it comes to AMD vs Intel. The P4 only has memory bandwidth, which beats AMDs CPUs, as of right now. Hmm...Memory bandwidth or REAL performance, let me think on that one... I will for sure as hell make a dual AMD setup when the SMP boards are available for socket A. Then I will laugh at your measly benchmarks of dual Intel CPUs vs my dual AMD.

 

[stockjock]

boys..boys..boys...can't we all just get along!!! Now let's all hold hands and sing "We are the World".

 

[Tweaked750]

james bond: DId you see the benchmark I posted of the dual athlon setup that 2cpu.com did? Check it out. Its up on the first page of this thread.

 

[random]

athlon.

 

[DoOLiE11]

AMD foreva!!!

 

[lesch2k]

Intel may cost more, but they get my vote

 

[UCBPride]

The support that Intel gets proves that 90% of the world are ignorant dumbasses

 

[joohang]

Just because I use and recommend Athlon that makes me a dumb ass?

I just recommended a product. Supporting Athlon doesn't mean that I fully support AMD, nor does it mean that I am not supporting Intel.

 

[Tweaked750]

Did anyone here of the AMD/Intel Merger?

I didnt but I thought it would be cool.

 

[han888]

Han, AMD doesn't need to rush their Palomino cores anytime soon for any reason

this is amd reason? hei, just use your mind, do u know how to business? why amd must delay the product for that reason? i am sure if amd dont get any trouble to make polamino they will release it

tweaked, that's a bullsh!t bench, amd cpu does not support smp until now

 

[joohang]

<< amd cpu does not support smp until now >>

Really? I thought that they did, but there were no chipsets for it.

 

[han888]

hi, if amd cpu really support smp, may be we can have dual amd system long time ago, normally people use dual system for server, editing and another heavy software, amd should be know that, if they want a money they should release the cpu have support dual, why until now they dont release that cpu?

 

[jamesbond007]

Han, the reason, I would guess, is because until now, AMD didn't have enough support from the public to fund their R&amp;D department to look into creating dual CPU setups. AMD's K6 line didn't help them much, but sure got everyone's attention. They created a low-cost CPU that was very effective in the low-budget ranged PCs. AMD made it possible for many people to have computers because until then, Intel owned a great share of the marketplace. Because of this, Intel was able to keep the prices high, until AMD stepped in. Everyone knows competition equals lowered prices. They offered a lower-priced CPU that wasn't up to clock-for-clock as a Pentium 1, 2, or 3, but it functioned, right? AMD is the underdog of the CPU market and they're here to stay a long time. The only thing that Intel has running for them right now is their hopes for DDR and the P4 combination as well as their brand name to sell their products. Otherwise, Intel is just an over-priced, ego-centric company that has only OEMs to buy their chips, as well as a few marginal SOHO customers that build their own machines.

~Just my $0.02

 

[han888]

yup, may be that's a good reason too, but who know my opinion is correct too, just thinking if u are an owner of amd , what do u do? when u can release the dual cpu to against the intel dual cpu? do u delay the production? may be with the release of dual amd cpu can make more profit, and also may be intel will going to bankrupt because of people will getting dual amd cpu to run their server ( as we know amd cpu more cheaper and more faster than intel ), just my opinion here, i think amd can make their dual cpu now, may be later i am not sure, no war please, just use our health brain to argue this topic, anyway i will go to amd system ( like people said why pay more if u can pay less with the same performace)if i am not really use this dual, but i need an dual system for my project, i can not go to amd because they dont support smp

 

[jamesbond007]

Yeah, I think AMD just needed support from the public. I can't wait for the Asus dual SMP TBird board! Muahah! That will rock. Did you ever hear about that school or business, I can't remember, that is building a 128 chip Rack-Mount AMD setup? It was suppose to use 1Ghz chips, but I believe they went with higher ones, not sure on that. That was back in January. Imagine load balancing.....W O W! I gotta get me one of those!

 

[joohang]

han888,

Here's are the clues, in which my assumptions (that Athlon is SMP-capable) are based on:

- like jamesbond007 mentioned, there was a super computer built from several (not sure how many, but it was multiprocessor) Athlon 1 GHz.
- the EV6 bus is quite tough to build an SMP chipset. That could explain the delay, other than business reasons. (and no, I doubt that Intel will go bankrupt b/c of this. )

AMD760MP-based SMP CPU boards are being released pretty soon. And recently AMD released Athlon &quot;C&quot;. Assuming that &quot;older&quot; Athlons weren't SMP-capable, I'm guessing that at least these &quot;new&quot; Athlons should be SMP-capable. Otherwise it will require yet another &quot;revised&quot; release of the Athlon, and that's just too chaotic for marketing.

My 2¢.