[POLL] - Smoking Ban

[3NF]

Trying to impose less freedom is definitely a bad thing. But what is really worse - the fact that we try to impose it, or the fact that our species invented such a stupid thing to begin with? Cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, etc just make our species look bad. The aliens today are looking at us and laughing their asses off. I really don't have much respect for those that smoke, drink, meth, etc - they just make us look bad and should be eliminated.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: 3NF
Trying to impose less freedom is definitely a bad thing. But what is really worse - the fact that we try to impose it, or the fact that our species invented such a stupid thing to begin with? Cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, etc just make our species look bad. The aliens today are looking at us and laughing their asses off. I really don't have much respect for those that smoke, drink, meth, etc - they just make us look bad and should be eliminated.

So, we should stop doing these "bad" things because aliens are making fun of us??

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: nweaver
smoking is up to the person...

I don't think you should regulate much, even though it worked so well for Alcohol in the 20's...

If a smoker expects the general public to breathe in their exhaled smoke, then can the public expect the smoker to eat the food I'd jerk off onto? There really isn't much of a difference when you think about it.

The question regarding banning .. that is tough. I don't think you could ban it completely. If someone wants to smoke in their own home/business, then they should be allowed to. However, at the moment it interferes with someone who doesn't smoke, then it should be banned.

How-in-the-hell does second-hand smoke and spunk-spiked food have anything in
common?? You sir, are a sexual deviant to even think of that!

 

[ForumMaster]

when somebofy smokes and you inhale their smoke, you getting even more lung damage then the smoker. if somebody wants to fill their lungs with tar and nicotine, fine. but do it outside where i don't have to suffer.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: MrBond
Businesses are openly flaunting that they're going to ignore it and have started a legal battle to get it overturned.

As they should!

 

[Oceandevi]

Legalize cannabis.

 

[dbk]

Why not let the owners' decide?

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's amazing how much this country has drifted from the values instilled by our founding fathers. They would most likely be physically ill if they saw what the government was allowed to do to ones own freedoms these days.

Is spreading cancer a "value" worth fighting for?

My health is worth fighting for, so yes there should be a total ban on smoking at all public places.

Majority rules and non smoker are the minority, i gues smokers are screwed.

What are you smoking anyway?

I am a former smoker who fought and beat mouth cancer.

 

[herbiehancock]

Originally posted by: Malak
You guys that think it's freedom to kill yourself just have no idea how to live. You want to support the right of people to kill themselves, and to kill yourself, because it's all about rights and not about wrongs. This has absolutely nothing to do with rights, it has everything to do with the point of having a government. To protect and serve the people. Banning smoking is within those lines and there is no logical reasoning to support allowing smoking to stay legal. It's wrong, period.

So, let's ban alcohol. It kills more people every year than smoking ever hoped to........drunken driving, alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis of the liver, etc., etc. If you truly believe that the gov't has the responsibility to prohibit the use of substances damaging to people, alcohol consumption has to be right there with smoking. And while it's true that smoking can expose you to second-hand smoke, a drunken driver can most assuredly expose you to much more harm than a wisp of smoke.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's amazing how much this country has drifted from the values instilled by our founding fathers. They would most likely be physically ill if they saw what the government was allowed to do to ones own freedoms these days.

Is spreading cancer a "value" worth fighting for?

My health is worth fighting for, so yes there should be a total ban on smoking at all public places.

Majority rules and non smoker are the minority, i gues smokers are screwed.

What are you smoking anyway?

I am a former smoker who fought and beat mouth cancer.

beating cancer mouth is a great feat. i believe it has the highest mortality rate.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: herbiehancock

Originally posted by: Malak
You guys that think it's freedom to kill yourself just have no idea how to live. You want to support the right of people to kill themselves, and to kill yourself, because it's all about rights and not about wrongs. This has absolutely nothing to do with rights, it has everything to do with the point of having a government. To protect and serve the people. Banning smoking is within those lines and there is no logical reasoning to support allowing smoking to stay legal. It's wrong, period.

So, let's ban alcohol. It kills more people every year than smoking ever hoped to........drunken driving, alcohol poisoning, cirrhosis of the liver, etc., etc. If you truly believe that the gov't has the responsibility to prohibit the use of substances damaging to people, alcohol consumption has to be right there with smoking. And while it's true that smoking can expose you to second-hand smoke, a drunken driver can most assuredly expose you to much more harm than a wisp of smoke.

Funny, isn't it It's amazing that alcohol is legal, but marijuana isn't. Although alcohol in moderation can be a good thing - I don't know if the same could be said about pot

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Malak
You guys that think it's freedom to kill yourself just have no idea how to live. You want to support the right of people to kill themselves, and to kill yourself, because it's all about rights and not about wrongs. This has absolutely nothing to do with rights, it has everything to do with the point of having a government. To protect and serve the people. Banning smoking is within those lines and there is no logical reasoning to support allowing smoking to stay legal. It's wrong, period.

I can't wait untill you control the contry.

Nothing but Wheat in purified water.

Somepeople would say that MEAT KILLS however it shsould be legal.

S,oking is an enjoyible habit for some that MAY have reporcusions down the road. It is a individual choice not yours to make for me

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: Malak
You guys that think it's freedom to kill yourself just have no idea how to live. You want to support the right of people to kill themselves, and to kill yourself, because it's all about rights and not about wrongs. This has absolutely nothing to do with rights, it has everything to do with the point of having a government. To protect and serve the people. Banning smoking is within those lines and there is no logical reasoning to support allowing smoking to stay legal. It's wrong, period.

I can't wait untill you control the contry.

Nothing but Wheat in purified water.

Somepeople would say that MEAT KILLS however it shsould be legal.

S,oking is an enjoyible habit for some that MAY have reporcusions down the road. It is a individual choice not yours to make for me

smoking hasn't been banned.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's amazing how much this country has drifted from the values instilled by our founding fathers. They would most likely be physically ill if they saw what the government was allowed to do to ones own freedoms these days.

Is spreading cancer a "value" worth fighting for?There has never been a study to show that second hand smoke causes cancer that was a true unbiased study

My health is worth fighting for, so yes there should be a total ban on smoking at all public places.My smoking does not effect your health. And you have no right for me as a bussiness owner to make your life pleasent. It is the right of the OWNER to decide how best to serve the customers

Majority rules and non smoker are the minority, i gues smokers are screwed. The country was founded on the basis of induviual freedom not majority rules

What are you smoking anyway?

I am a former smoker who fought and beat mouth cancer.

 

[3NF]

Can we end this thread by saying?

"Smokers are filthy pigs"

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's amazing how much this country has drifted from the values instilled by our founding fathers. They would most likely be physically ill if they saw what the government was allowed to do to ones own freedoms these days.

Is spreading cancer a "value" worth fighting for?

My health is worth fighting for, so yes there should be a total ban on smoking at all public places.

Majority rules and non smoker are the minority, i gues smokers are screwed.

What are you smoking anyway?

I am a former smoker who fought and beat mouth cancer.

beating cancer mouth is a great feat. i believe it has the highest mortality rate.

You so acerbic you make me sick. I am just speaking from personal experience as to what smoking does. edit deleted rude comment: No need of this, sorry.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's amazing how much this country has drifted from the values instilled by our founding fathers. They would most likely be physically ill if they saw what the government was allowed to do to ones own freedoms these days.

Is spreading cancer a "value" worth fighting for?

My health is worth fighting for, so yes there should be a total ban on smoking at all public places.

Majority rules and non smoker are the minority, i gues smokers are screwed.

What are you smoking anyway?

I am a former smoker who fought and beat mouth cancer.

beating cancer mouth is a great feat. i believe it has the highest mortality rate.

You so acerbic you make me sick. I am just speaking from personal experience as to what smoking does. So go * yourself.

what are you talking about? i was commending you for beating mouth cancer.
i don't see how you come off smacking me down for that.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: Number1

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's amazing how much this country has drifted from the values instilled by our founding fathers. They would most likely be physically ill if they saw what the government was allowed to do to ones own freedoms these days.

Is spreading cancer a "value" worth fighting for?There has never been a study to show that second hand smoke causes cancer that was a true unbiased study

My health is worth fighting for, so yes there should be a total ban on smoking at all public places.My smoking does not effect your health. And you have no right for me as a bussiness owner to make your life pleasent. It is the right of the OWNER to decide how best to serve the customers

Majority rules and non smoker are the minority, i gues smokers are screwed. The country was founded on the basis of induviual freedom not majority rules

What are you smoking anyway?

I am a former smoker who fought and beat mouth cancer.

We are a majority, we don't want smokers around us. End of story.
Go exercise your right to kill yourself at home.

 

[3NF]

Smokers are filthy pigs. End of thread.

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: 3NF
Smokers are filthy pigs. End of thread.

3NF blows goats. End of thread

 

[Soybomb]

Originally posted by: Beachboy
The only people complaining about a ban of smoking are smokers.

I would have no problem with a public smoking ban... people can burn whatever they want to in private.

I'm not a smoker and I don't support it. I think this is an issue the owner of the business should be able to decide. If they want to make their business non-smoking or smoking its up to the people to decide if they want to patronize that establishment or not based on their rules. Its certainly not my business to say because I don't like something no one else can do it. We don't need a nanny government, you should be free to do stupid things if you want.

Similarly I'm an atheist but I support the rights of the religious to practice.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: 3NF
Smokers are filthy pigs. End of thread.

3NF blows goats. End of thread

actually he is right. smoking is disgusting.

 

[BUTCH1]

I know it is, his attitude just pisses me off...

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1
I know it is, his attitude just pisses me off...

AWESOME!! I love confrontation!!

Sorry, but the truth is that the general public perceives smokers as filthy pigs. If you smoke, then I suggest you quit. The problem is that you smokers can't do it - you're worthless .. weak .. the slime of society.

You can do it, Butch (what kind of name is that?) ... give it up man ... let go of the money making pimp!!

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Amused
I would vote no on both. I my opinion smoking bans are a violation of private property rights. Businesses are NOT public places. They are private property in which the public is invited at the will of the owner.

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
It's amazing how much this country has drifted from the values instilled by our founding fathers. They would most likely be physically ill if they saw what the government was allowed to do to ones own freedoms these days.

:thumbsup:

Any other opinion is just wrong.

:thumbsup:


Both of those quotes are dead-on.

Both of you are absolutely right, and the day a law passes that makes smoking illegal is the day I move out of the country that accepted such a law.