Possible First time OCer

[sithhar]

I'm about to finish my build (deciding on which motherboard to get right now)

But since we're not too far off from Penryn, I opted to go for the Q6600 over the Q6700 and I'm highly considering OCing the Q6600 to 3ghz or there abouts. Can anyone recommend a good, quiet cooler thats not extremely expensive that will keep this cool and stable at that frequency?

I was looking at the Scythe Mine Rev.B SCMN-1100, but I guess its an older model?

And anyone have thoughts on running an OC'd Q6600 in a Asus Striker Extreme vs P5K Deluxe?

The Blitz Formula is another board on my list but there is only 1? review on it and no pricing so I'm not holding my breath on it being released at the price point I can afford before I'm ready to purchase my last two parts (MB/CPU)


The rest of my build is:
Antec P182
OCZ GamerXStream 700w
Samsung SpinPoint T series 500g
2gb OCZ Reaper HPC Edition PC2-6400

 

[Giggli G]

Probably the best cheap cooler out there is the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. It costs only 30-40 bucks. If you want to read a bunch of rave reviews of it, simply Google.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Giggli G
Probably the best cheap cooler out there is the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. It costs only 30-40 bucks. If you want to read a bunch of rave reviews of it, simply Google.

do you own a quadcore?

Do you have any idea of what B3 and G0 steppings are?

Do you know the required Vcore for him to pull off 3.0ghz successfully?


Im sorry to sound like a ass, but if you dont have a quadcore please dont participate in quadcore threads, unless your asking a question.



Now for the op, 3.0ghz on a B3 stepping requires around 1.375-1.4Vcore, with FSB Vcore near maxed on the motherboard setting.

The G0's can pull it off at near stock voltage, from what im playing with right now. But mines an ES.

Now at 1.375-1.4Vcore on a quadcore, thats about = to a C2D chip, running at around 1.45-147Vcore. Thats quite a bit of heat if you ask me.

I recomend you looking at only two air heat sinks. If you cant afford them, then i suggest you dont do a lot of CPU intensive tasks on that quadcore. You'll notice it will heat up very quickly and later on you'll run into stability issues.

Tuniq Tower
Or a Lapped Thermalright Ultra120.


There a bit pricey, but you should of realized what is needed/required to overclock a quad b4 you bought one.

 

[orion23]

You have very few options:

Thermalright Ultra or Xtreme 120

Or

Tuniq Tower 120 (much cheaper, and it includes a fan)

 

[swtethan]

or IFX-14!!!!!!!!!

 

[ksource]

Just started my build (only bought the Q6600 B3, I'm not an avid renderer/gamer so no need to wait for G0)

I went with the Ultra 120

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
I recomend you looking at only two air heat sinks. If you cant afford them, then i suggest you dont do a lot of CPU intensive tasks on that quadcore. You'll notice it will heat up very quickly and later on you'll run into stability issues.

Tuniq Tower
Or a Lapped Thermalright Ultra120.

So you're saying that the Freezer 7 Pro is a no-go, as far as using it with an OCed C2Q?
That's too bad, since I already own one and planned to use it for that.
Is there something specific about it that makes it bad for QC usage? Surely it has to be better than the stock Intel HSF.

 

[Capt Caveman]

If you can wait 4 weeks, X38 motherboards should be coming out and the likelihood of getting a Q6600 G0 will be much higher.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: aigomorla
I recomend you looking at only two air heat sinks. If you cant afford them, then i suggest you dont do a lot of CPU intensive tasks on that quadcore. You'll notice it will heat up very quickly and later on you'll run into stability issues.

Tuniq Tower
Or a Lapped Thermalright Ultra120.

So you're saying that the Freezer 7 Pro is a no-go, as far as using it with an OCed C2Q?
That's too bad, since I already own one and planned to use it for that.
Is there something specific about it that makes it bad for QC usage? Surely it has to be better than the stock Intel HSF.

No, he said that it doesn't anywhere near enough cooling capacity for a B3 Q6600 @ 3 Ghz+. Yes, it's considerably better than the stock heatsink, but it's not even as good as a Zalman 9500, so there isn't a chance it will handle a B3 Q6600 @ those speeds. You'd likely be able to get one to 2.6-2.7 Ghz, though.

 

[ALECUBA]

how come the TT big typhoon aint mentioned any more...considering its the second best in the list of Anandtech's reviews of overclocks? even with the q6600?? im just wondering if i have a crappy HSF....

 

[swtethan]

I had it with my BT, I tried taking off the backplate and wrecked my mobo. Note to everyone: dont buy a HSF that has you stick the backplate to the motherboard with super strong double sided mounting tape.

 

[sithhar]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
If you can wait 4 weeks, X38 motherboards should be coming out and the likelihood of getting a Q6600 G0 will be much higher.

I can't wait, I've been waiting all year I think I'm going to pass on trying to get 3ghz OC but I might go for 2.6-2.7. Originally I was going to buy the Q6700 but its too much for what you get over the Q6600, at least I could get up to or around its speed maybe. If I get lucky with a G0, maybe I'll go for more.

It looks like I'm going to get a Asus P5K, unless the Blitz is less than 300 and is buyable in the next 3 days.

As for cooling, if I can fit it, I'll probably go with a Tuniq Tower 120 w/AS5. It should fit in my P182? I'm worried about my Ram being in the way as I got OCZ Reaper and its very very tall.

Thanks for the replies guys!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: swtethan
I had it with my BT, I tried taking off the backplate and wrecked my mobo. Note to everyone: dont buy a HSF that has you stick the backplate to the motherboard with super strong double sided mounting tape.

when did this happen?

that really sucks ... i think you have to soak the mounting tape before you remove it which could also damage your MB

seems obvious now ... and since it never happened to me
-i guess *i* win
[by default]

... and i like my Thermalright Ultra-120/Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F combo ... i planned to also use it when i upgrade to QC.
and you DO have to be careful tightening down the screws a bit at a time in sequence ... i think it would be easy to damage your MB if you just cranked down on one screw. You'd also be screwed!

 

[Giggli G]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Giggli G
Probably the best cheap cooler out there is the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. It costs only 30-40 bucks. If you want to read a bunch of rave reviews of it, simply Google.

do you own a quadcore?

Do you have any idea of what B3 and G0 steppings are?

Do you know the required Vcore for him to pull off 3.0ghz successfully?


Im sorry to sound like a ass, but if you dont have a quadcore please dont participate in quadcore threads, unless your asking a question.

Yes, you sound just like an ass.

If you want a budget build to stay around 3GHz (higher if you have G0), stick with the AC FP7. If you can afford better, decide for yourself.

I have a Q6600, B3 stepping @ 3 Ghz (original voltage 1.328), adjusted Vcore 1.3750
Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7
P5K Vanilla
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case

Rock solid at 2x Orthos, idles at 43c, 60c at full load. Completely safe temperatures that shouldn't harm anything.

I have been watching people on these forums constantly pimp only a few coolers (Sycthe, Tuniq, Thermalright) and pat each other on the back for it. In the real world, you save maybe one or two degrees Celsius compared to the AC. So, unless you are looking to go beyond 3.2, or you get really unlucky with a hot processor, you should be just dandy at 3ghz with the AC.

Your case could be a problem, but it is unlikely to be serious.

Cheers

 

[Markfw]

When you overlock a quad, especially ABOVE 3 GHZ, a good cooler (better than an AC FP7) becomes a requirement.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: Giggli G

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Giggli G
Probably the best cheap cooler out there is the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. It costs only 30-40 bucks. If you want to read a bunch of rave reviews of it, simply Google.

do you own a quadcore?

Do you have any idea of what B3 and G0 steppings are?

Do you know the required Vcore for him to pull off 3.0ghz successfully?


Im sorry to sound like a ass, but if you dont have a quadcore please dont participate in quadcore threads, unless your asking a question.

Yes, you sound just like an ass.

If you want a budget build to stay around 3GHz (higher if you have G0), stick with the AC FP7. If you can afford better, decide for yourself.

I have a Q6600, B3 stepping @ 3 Ghz (original voltage 1.328), adjusted Vcore 1.3750
Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7
P5K Vanilla
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case

Rock solid at 2x Orthos, idles at 43c, 60c at full load. Completely safe temperatures that shouldn't harm anything.

I have been watching people on these forums constantly pimp only a few coolers (Sycthe, Tuniq, Thermalright) and pat each other on the back for it. In the real world, you save maybe one or two degrees Celsius compared to the AC. So, unless you are looking to go beyond 3.2, or you get really unlucky with a hot processor, you should be just dandy at 3ghz with the AC.

Your case could be a problem, but it is unlikely to be serious.

Cheers

With my scythe ninja, I was hitting the mid 80's with my Q6600 at 3.1ghz. Water cooling brought it down to the mid 60's. This is in core temp. You didn't mention what you were using for temp monitoring..but core temp reads from the core's themselves, and it is typicaly about 15c higher thats something like Asus probe. If you are getting only 60c in core temp, it's more likely you got an exceptional chip, rather than the majority which run quite a bit warmer.

 

[zero2dash]

I'm getting a Tuniq with my Q6600 myself; originally was looking at the AC FP7 but I absolutely will not bother with those stupid plastic push pins to mount the HSF.
Tuniq (and many other larger HSF) use screws and a backplate...much more foolproof and not likely to break, causing the HSF to fall and damage stuff.

My extent of overclocking will be upping the FSB (Gigabyte P35-DS3R mobo) to 1333 to get a cpu clock speed of 3gig, and that's all I'm doing myself. No voltage bumps or anything else.

~just my two cents...

 

[idiotekniQues]

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Originally posted by: Giggli G

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Giggli G
Probably the best cheap cooler out there is the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. It costs only 30-40 bucks. If you want to read a bunch of rave reviews of it, simply Google.

do you own a quadcore?

Do you have any idea of what B3 and G0 steppings are?

Do you know the required Vcore for him to pull off 3.0ghz successfully?


Im sorry to sound like a ass, but if you dont have a quadcore please dont participate in quadcore threads, unless your asking a question.

Yes, you sound just like an ass.

If you want a budget build to stay around 3GHz (higher if you have G0), stick with the AC FP7. If you can afford better, decide for yourself.

I have a Q6600, B3 stepping @ 3 Ghz (original voltage 1.328), adjusted Vcore 1.3750
Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7
P5K Vanilla
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case

Rock solid at 2x Orthos, idles at 43c, 60c at full load. Completely safe temperatures that shouldn't harm anything.

I have been watching people on these forums constantly pimp only a few coolers (Sycthe, Tuniq, Thermalright) and pat each other on the back for it. In the real world, you save maybe one or two degrees Celsius compared to the AC. So, unless you are looking to go beyond 3.2, or you get really unlucky with a hot processor, you should be just dandy at 3ghz with the AC.

Your case could be a problem, but it is unlikely to be serious.

Cheers

With my scythe ninja, I was hitting the mid 80's with my Q6600 at 3.1ghz. Water cooling brought it down to the mid 60's. This is in core temp. You didn't mention what you were using for temp monitoring..but core temp reads from the core's themselves, and it is typicaly about 15c higher thats something like Asus probe. If you are getting only 60c in core temp, it's more likely you got an exceptional chip, rather than the majority which run quite a bit warmer.

ahhh just the man i was lookin for.

i am oc'ing a q6600 with a ninja and it just isnt cutting it for the high oc's i know this chip can do.

what wc setup did you go with?

 

[Giggli G]

Sorry about that. I know that Speedfan measures 15 below, and it didn't control my case fans either, so I uninstalled it. I have been using both Core Temp and Thermal Analysis Tool, and they coincide to within about 2 degrees. i downloaded asus probe, but my bios isn't even up to date... haha and it is still working so well.

I'll report with asusprobe too after that.

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: swtethan
I had it with my BT, I tried taking off the backplate and wrecked my mobo. Note to everyone: dont buy a HSF that has you stick the backplate to the motherboard with super strong double sided mounting tape.

Same with the Tuniq - horrible aspect of the design.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: swtethan
I had it with my BT, I tried taking off the backplate and wrecked my mobo. Note to everyone: dont buy a HSF that has you stick the backplate to the motherboard with super strong double sided mounting tape.

Same with the Tuniq - horrible aspect of the design.

The Tuniq backplate has double-sided tape on it!? <profanity>, I thought that was just a pad. That would have made installation so much easier though. I hope leaving the protective film on won't have any negative effects.:Q

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: swtethan
I had it with my BT, I tried taking off the backplate and wrecked my mobo. Note to everyone: dont buy a HSF that has you stick the backplate to the motherboard with super strong double sided mounting tape.

Same with the Tuniq - horrible aspect of the design.

The Tuniq backplate has double-sided tape on it!? <profanity>, I thought that was just a pad. That would have made installation so much easier though. I hope leaving the protective film on won't have any negative effects.:Q

You dont get to bend the sh!t out your mobo, if you count that as a neg :laugh:

 

[ALECUBA]

where could i get a set of those plates/screws to put it with my TT BT so i dont have to use the plastic method

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Giggli G

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Giggli G
Probably the best cheap cooler out there is the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. It costs only 30-40 bucks. If you want to read a bunch of rave reviews of it, simply Google.

do you own a quadcore?

Do you have any idea of what B3 and G0 steppings are?

Do you know the required Vcore for him to pull off 3.0ghz successfully?


Im sorry to sound like a ass, but if you dont have a quadcore please dont participate in quadcore threads, unless your asking a question.

Yes, you sound just like an ass.

If you want a budget build to stay around 3GHz (higher if you have G0), stick with the AC FP7. If you can afford better, decide for yourself.

I have a Q6600, B3 stepping @ 3 Ghz (original voltage 1.328), adjusted Vcore 1.3750
Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7
P5K Vanilla
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case

Rock solid at 2x Orthos, idles at 43c, 60c at full load. Completely safe temperatures that shouldn't harm anything.

I have been watching people on these forums constantly pimp only a few coolers (Sycthe, Tuniq, Thermalright) and pat each other on the back for it. In the real world, you save maybe one or two degrees Celsius compared to the AC. So, unless you are looking to go beyond 3.2, or you get really unlucky with a hot processor, you should be just dandy at 3ghz with the AC.

Your case could be a problem, but it is unlikely to be serious.

Cheers

Its not just based on a FEW C's.

Here is the logic and reasoning to it. These old coolers were ment to cool a single die middle stamped processor. The C2D is an example of a single stamp core. Now we take into aspect the Quadcore Kentsfield. How does it look behind that shiny metal IHS?

There 2 cores spaced out so a lot more cooling area/coverage is needed. Ever wonder why cores 0 1 2 3 are never close to each other?

Why do people on AT only promote a few name brands? Because they work? They are the most commonly used? Because people have more praises then flames for the product?

That is the reasoning behind the coolers people recomend. There isnt anything wrong with the freezer 7. I had one on one of my brothers rigs a while back ago. He's now on water however. There is also nothing wrong with the Big Typhoon. But its sort of big, and the mounting system might get in the way of the resistor lay out on the LGA775 platform motherboards.

Why do i recomend only TR120, Tuniq Tower? Because people who push these girls to the max uses them. These are guys whom i feel are more experience with cooling these girls on air. I have used a TR120 on my ES Q6600, and it worked very good. The person who taught me how to cool these girls also used a tuniq tower on his crunching platform and said they did very well.


Lastly, I made the wrong assumption at you. I applogize, however, tons of newbies who DONT own quadcores are shooting and comparing there C2D rigs with kentsfield. This URKs, me because if you own a kentsfield, your in a different ballpark when you oc these girls. And when there loaded, you'll think this summer heat is the end of your world if your not on a good cooler.

 

[stevty2889]

Originally posted by: idiotekniQues

Originally posted by: stevty2889

Originally posted by: Giggli G

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Giggli G
Probably the best cheap cooler out there is the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7. It costs only 30-40 bucks. If you want to read a bunch of rave reviews of it, simply Google.

do you own a quadcore?

Do you have any idea of what B3 and G0 steppings are?

Do you know the required Vcore for him to pull off 3.0ghz successfully?


Im sorry to sound like a ass, but if you dont have a quadcore please dont participate in quadcore threads, unless your asking a question.

Yes, you sound just like an ass.

If you want a budget build to stay around 3GHz (higher if you have G0), stick with the AC FP7. If you can afford better, decide for yourself.

I have a Q6600, B3 stepping @ 3 Ghz (original voltage 1.328), adjusted Vcore 1.3750
Arctic Cooling Freezer Pro 7
P5K Vanilla
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream case

Rock solid at 2x Orthos, idles at 43c, 60c at full load. Completely safe temperatures that shouldn't harm anything.

I have been watching people on these forums constantly pimp only a few coolers (Sycthe, Tuniq, Thermalright) and pat each other on the back for it. In the real world, you save maybe one or two degrees Celsius compared to the AC. So, unless you are looking to go beyond 3.2, or you get really unlucky with a hot processor, you should be just dandy at 3ghz with the AC.

Your case could be a problem, but it is unlikely to be serious.

Cheers

With my scythe ninja, I was hitting the mid 80's with my Q6600 at 3.1ghz. Water cooling brought it down to the mid 60's. This is in core temp. You didn't mention what you were using for temp monitoring..but core temp reads from the core's themselves, and it is typicaly about 15c higher thats something like Asus probe. If you are getting only 60c in core temp, it's more likely you got an exceptional chip, rather than the majority which run quite a bit warmer.

ahhh just the man i was lookin for.

i am oc'ing a q6600 with a ninja and it just isnt cutting it for the high oc's i know this chip can do.

what wc setup did you go with?

I customized my WC setup. I had a swiftech resavoir and pump already, added a swiftech appoge GT waterblock, a dual 120mm fan radiator, as well as an additional single 120mm fan radiator, with a fan on each side.