Possible? Halogen to HID (Xenon)

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DivideBYZero

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It's not even a Focus, it's an aged Escort. Don't bother or just buy them some of those shitty blue tint regular bulbs to make them happy.
 

speedy2

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I like the "white" light that my HID gives off rather than the "yellow" from standard halogen. Also, I find that HID are more reflective so I can see the eyes off people and animals more clearly and any road reflector glow like they are radioactive.

Although the lowbeam power is pretty weak compared to halogen, highbeam lights up everything in front of my car like daylight.

As for the OP, I would go OEM or don't bother. Unless you MUST have the lights, I'd spend that $400 elsewhere.

A standard halogen will reflect off of most "reflective" surfaces just fine. I live in the woods. I can see deer eyes at night extremely easy with stock halogens on a 2005 Grand Prix. As well as every other car I've had before. As well as road signs, even annoyingly bright to be honest. If you really need more light coming back at you from animal eyes, you might need your own eyes checked.
 

Zenmervolt

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Absolutely NONE of the items listed on that page is a "kit" in any true sense. You CANNOT simply drop a HID bulb into any old housing, even if you hack the bulb with a different base. You need an ENTIRE HOUSING designed for HID bulbs.

The "kits" you have linked are ILLEGAL for on-road use and will result in unacceptable beam patterns and severely excessive glare for oncoming drivers. Only someone who was a complete idiot would buy them. The fact that the site is selling re-based bulbs is a dead giveaway that they're selling crap and have a target audience of morons, and the fact that they offer "bi-xenon" kits for single-bulb housings simply confirms this.

ZV
 
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Capt Caveman

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A standard halogen will reflect off of most "reflective" surfaces just fine. I live in the woods. I can see deer eyes at night extremely easy with stock halogens on a 2005 Grand Prix. As well as every other car I've had before. As well as road signs, even annoyingly bright to be honest. If you really need more light coming back at you from animal eyes, you might need your own eyes checked.

And HIDs will even do a better job. My friends live on top of a moutain in Maine. Whenever I drive up there at night, there's always animals crossing the road. When I got a new car with HIDs it lighted the whole road, tremendous difference. Don't think I can go back to a car without them.
 

Zenmervolt

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And HIDs will even do a better job. My friends live on top of a moutain in Maine. Whenever I drive up there at night, there's always animals crossing the road. When I got a new car with HIDs it lighted the whole road, tremendous difference. Don't think I can go back to a car without them.

That's much more likely to be beam pattern than HID-specific. I get far superior performance from the 55 watt halogen low-beams on my Volvo than I used to get from the 65 watt halogen high-beams in 914 which uses the older sealed-beam housings. When I switched the 914 over to Hella ECE housings, I got ridiculously better performance from the H4 bulbs in the ECE housings despite having the same wattage and lumen ratings as the old sealed beams.

Aim is critical and generally extremely overlooked. When I bought my motorcycle it was downright dangerous to drive at night, the headlight lit almost nothing. 10 minutes in the garage setting the aim and suddenly I'm seeing everything on the road at night. Same exact bulb and housing, but a huge difference.

While HIDs help, I'm willing to put money on the difference you're seeing being primarily due to a combination of aim and housing design, not anything inherent to the use of a HID light source as opposed to a conventional filament bulb.

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foghorn67

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I think it's easier to change my 67 Mustang to HID vs. changing my Focus to it.
With the Focus, all aftermarket projector lenses/housings are a piece of crap. Unless I pay several hundred for the factory SVT units.
With the Mustang, it's standard 7" sealed beams. And there are tons of good quality projectors that can replace the sealed beams. Coupled with a Osram HID conversion, I can do it with minimal cringing at the price.

In the meantime, I just bypassed the underdash wiring harness and ran a couple of Bosch relays for the regular ol' headlights. While my lights aren't BMW quality HIDs, they can almost match the quality of factory halogens in most automobiles.
 

DivideBYZero

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Absolutely NONE of the items listed on that page is a "kit" in any true sense. You CANNOT simply drop a HID bulb into any old housing, even if you hack the bulb with a different base. You need an ENTIRE HOUSING designed for HID bulbs.

The "kits" you have linked are ILLEGAL for on-road use and will result in unacceptable beam patterns and severely excessive glare for oncoming drivers. Only someone who was a complete idiot would buy them. The fact that the site is selling re-based bulbs is a dead giveaway that they're selling crap and have a target audience of morons, and the fact that they offer "bi-xenon" kits for single-bulb housings simply confirms this.

ZV

While for the case of this shady site this is true, often modern Bi-Xenon units are in one housing. They utilise a shutter system to alter the beam spread when selecting high beam. My 120d does this.
 

KIAman

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While for the case of this shady site this is true, often modern Bi-Xenon units are in one housing. They utilise a shutter system to alter the beam spread when selecting high beam. My 120d does this.

Same for my car. It uses the same housing for low and high beams using a shutter to block some of the lights. It's always funny to see the light go through it's shutter check when starting the car. It looks like it doesn't know where to point the light.

Another cool feature, aside from turning with the steering wheel, is the auto-leveling system. It's got a sensor attached to one of the front suspension pieces so when the car is pointed down, it aims the lights up and vice versa.
 

hanoverphist

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guess i should check the links closer when i google lol. i saw kits, didnt even check to see if they have the housings or anything.

i do disagree on needing the philips brand to make it worth while tho, thats like the whole monster cable debacle to me.
 

Zenmervolt

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While for the case of this shady site this is true, often modern Bi-Xenon units are in one housing. They utilise a shutter system to alter the beam spread when selecting high beam. My 120d does this.

Point. It can be done, but not the way the site is selling them.

A shutter system is integral to the housing; the site is selling siamesed bulbs, which is not a true bi-xenon setup and which will produce an absolutely atrocious beam pattern, even by half-arsed re-based bulb standards.

ZV
 
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