Possible Scam?

[Circlenaut]

Well I decided to be a bud towards me friend and sell his WoW account. He needs to concentrate on school and blah blah. Well as you can see this person bought the account for $700 bucks. He payed it through CC, which my account doesn't except. Paypal quickly sent out an email detailing that I upgrade my account to business or premier (hell no). Also this kid sounds like he's 8 and supposidly lives in greece. And sent an email 2 hours after the auction closed to promptly hand the account info to him... Well I denied his CC payment and sent an email telling him to transfer the money first into a paypal acount and send it to me via that. Now if I do except this payment and it turns out to be some fraud, what would I be liable for? Would paypal freeze my bank account? What would happen?

Thanks

Felipe

 

[Tylanner]

youd be out a WOW account

 

[Al Neri]

tsk

 

[BustaBust]

Why didn't you upgrade to premiere? You can charge the buyer your PayPal fee.

 

[MaxFusion16]

you have to accept cc payment if you accept paypal,

and since it's not a material object there is no way to track its delivery, so you would be SOL if he files a chargeback.

 

[Pepsei]

wow, you mean i could sell my old account for that kind of money? meh, probably a bit less since everyone and their son have a level 60 thief.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: BustaBust
Why didn't you upgrade to premiere? You can charge the buyer your PayPal fee.

No you can't. It's forbidden by eBay TOS. You should state in your auction that the paypal must be from a verified user.

For something such as this, even if the user is verified (and I'm not sure Greece qualifies), I'd be inclined to transfer the money to my bank account and mail the user the account information by certified mail. Otherwise, you don't have a whole lot of protection.

 

[Toasthead]

dont ever sell to someone with 0 feedback

 

[Hossenfeffer]

I would upgrade to the premiere account, personally. Would get the money transferred to your bank, and then yes, certified mail. Make sure you follow the policies to the letter.

 

[Chryso]

I would never buy something like a game account with no way to get out of it in case the seller sent fake account information or something. That being verified stuff is just Ebay's way of getting out of paying a percentage to the credit card company.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: BustaBust
Why didn't you upgrade to premiere? You can charge the buyer your PayPal fee.

no you can't

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: MaxFusion16
you have to accept cc payment if you accept paypal,

and since it's not a material object there is no way to track its delivery, so you would be SOL if he files a chargeback.

qft

 

[kranky]

Sigh. Do you, for even a single moment, believe the buyer is legit? If so, you are going to get scammed. Just the fact that your thread title says "possible scam?" is a red flag.

You will never get your money. If you send the WoW account info, you'll be out that too.

There's no way I know of to protect yourself selling a WoW account. If the buyer decides to do a chargeback, you'll be left holding the bag. If the buyer pays with a stolen/fake credit card, you'll be left holding the bag. You can't prove delivery and if the buyer claims non-receipt, you'll be left holding the bag.

Just forget it and tell your friend to sell the thing himself. Let him get scammed, and leave you out of it.

 

[scorpmatt]

Originally posted by: Toasthead
dont ever sell to someone with 0 feedback

while I agree with you, sometimes those 0 feedback accounts need a sale or purchase to get that feedback and your sale would give them that feedback. Its a dangerous line

 

[Chryso]

BTW, I thought it was against the TOS to sell a WoW account anyway.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Ah, another thing....


You have listed " Ships to: United States". Might be a way to get out of selling to him while still following the rules.

Not to mention it being against Blizzard's policies to actually sell an account.

 

[ashakar]

This happened to my friend when he sold his EQ account. The money that the person used to buy my friends account with happened to be stolen. In cases like this Paypal will take that money back out of your account. So my friend was basically out 400 bucks and an EQ account.

the good news is as long as you have the original CD key and your friend knows his wow security question answer you can always call wow support and get your password changed. The security question and answer can't be changed after the account is set up, so the person buying the account can't do anything about it.

Note: in the terms of service agreement for Blizzard it is illegal to sell your account. So do so at your own risk

 

[Shaotai]

you might want to upgrade, accept payment, then downgrade your account back to a personal instead of premiere/business.
You can only do this once. (Last I did research on this...)

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

the only way to come close to protecting yourself is this:

deny the Paypal payment. Require he send you a USPS Money Order. Then send him the info after cashing the MO at a USPS facility.

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: Toasthead
dont ever sell to someone with 0 feedback

while I agree with you, sometimes those 0 feedback accounts need a sale or purchase to get that feedback and your sale would give them that feedback. Its a dangerous line

I think it also depends on the age of the account. I would feel a little better selling to an account that had been around for a couple months with 0 feed back than one that was just created in the last few days.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Originally posted by: scorpmatt

Originally posted by: Toasthead
dont ever sell to someone with 0 feedback

while I agree with you, sometimes those 0 feedback accounts need a sale or purchase to get that feedback and your sale would give them that feedback. Its a dangerous line

Maybe revise it to something like "don't ever sell a big-ticket item to someone with 0 feedback". Let them build their feedback on little $5-10 things.

 

[ashakar]

money order would be your best bet. Or just get him to wire cash to you western union or something if he doesn't want to wait for the account.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: ashakar
money order would be your best bet. Or just get him to wire cash to you western union or something if he doesn't want to wait for the account.

ah yes, Western Union.....muahahahahaha!

 

[Nick5324]

Originally posted by: kranky
Sigh. Do you, for even a single moment, believe the buyer is legit? If so, you are going to get scammed. Just the fact that your thread title says "possible scam?" is a red flag.

You will never get your money. If you send the WoW account info, you'll be out that too.

There's no way I know of to protect yourself selling a WoW account. If the buyer decides to do a chargeback, you'll be left holding the bag. If the buyer pays with a stolen/fake credit card, you'll be left holding the bag. You can't prove delivery and if the buyer claims non-receipt, you'll be left holding the bag.

Just forget it and tell your friend to sell the thing himself. Let him get scammed, and leave you out of it.

Yep. The best option would be to have a buyer send you a MO.
OP, except != accept. :beer: