Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: hscorpio
Originally posted by: Tabb
First of all, its "TWO WOMEN" are you trying to me that two people are going to turn around the laws that we've had for years?
They are just two of many people that find marijuana useful in treating their medical condidtions.
EDIT- Remember that California voters made medical marijuana legal in 1996. These women were abiding by state law but the federal government stuck its nose where it don't belong and arrested them.
These women want marijuana to be prescribed to them legally, the same way they can get a subscription for vicodin. It has proven medical use. It is not right for you to deny them access to this drug based on the fact that the law has said pot has no medical value since 1970. The law is wrong, obviously it does have medical value so we should change the law.
Now, synthetic THC has been infact produced. The same stuff found in weed, why can't they use that?
If you have no problem with them using the synthetic version of THC, then why shouldn't they be able to use the natural version?
Studies have shown that marinol is not as effective as marijuana and patients prefer it over the pill form. When marijuana is smoked the effects are almost instant meaning it is easy to gauge when you've had enough. In pill form the effects don't kick in immediately but take up to an hour. This means its harder to take the right dose. Also whole marijuana has hundreds of other active cannabinoids. Marinol is the synthetic version of just one of those cannabinoids.
Also why should they have to pay 17$ a pill when they can grow pot for free?
Clinical research has also demonstrated similar properties of THC and cannabis with regard to therapeutic effects. This is shown in the data from marijuana research programs on the anti-emetic effects of marijuana in 6 states (Musty & Rossi 2001, see above), where patients who smoked marijuana experienced 70-100% relief from nausea and vomiting, and those who used the THC capsule experienced 76-88% relief. In the study by Abrams et al. (2002) that investigated the interaction of smoked cannabis and Marinol? (THC) with HIV medication, very similar effects were observed with regard to weight gain. The participants had been divided into three groups, with one set smoking marijuana (3.95% THC), another taking oral dronabinol capsules (3x2.5 mg daily), and a third taking oral placebo capsules. Researchers found that those using dronabinol (THC) or marijuana experienced significant increases in caloric intake and gained an average of 3.5 kg (marijuana group) and 3.2 kg. (THC group) compared to 1.3 kg in the placebo group. There was no significant difference between marijuana and THC with regard to side effects and benefits.
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In North Dakota Gay Marriage was added to our state consitution in 2004, doesn't mean it was right. The federal goverment has juristiction over state goverments, they removed gay marriage from california didnt they?
It has a medical use, but the fact is there are other drugs WITHOUT the negative side effects that Marjiuana has. That is why they shouldn't use the natural form.
Would you trust me to make my own asprin? Marinol may not be effective but you can have craploads of THC and its "One of the saftest Drugs around"....
"Tetrahydrocannabinol is a very safe drug. Laboratory animals (rats, mice, dogs, monkeys) can tolerate doses of up to 1,000 mg/kg (milligrams per kilogram). This would be equivalent to a 70 kg person swallowing 70 grams of the drug -- about 5,000 times more than is required to produce a high. Despite the widespread illicit use of cannabis there are very few if any instances of people dying from an overdose. In Britain, official government statistics listed five deaths from cannabis in the period 1993-1995 but on closer examination these proved to have been deaths due to inhalation of vomit that could not be directly attributed to cannabis (House of Lords Report, 1998). By comparison with other commonly used recreational drugs these statistics are impressive."
Originally posted by: bamacre
There were an estimated 2.6 million new marijuana users in 2001. This number is similar to the numbers of new users each year since 1995, but above the number in 1990 (1.6 million). In 2002, over 14 million Americans age 12 and older used marijuana at least once in the month prior to being surveyed, and 12.2 percent of past year marijuana users used marijuana on 300 or more days in the past 12 months. This translates into 3.1 million people using marijuana on a daily or almost daily basis over a 12-month period(1).
Forty-two percent of youth age 12 or 13 and 24.1 percent age 16 or 17 perceived smoking marijuana once a month as a great risk. Slightly more than half of youth age 12 to 17 indicated that it would be fairly or very easy to obtain marijuana, but only 26.0 percent of 12- or 13-year-olds indicated the same thing. However, 79.0 percent of those age 16 or 17 indicated that it would be fairly or very easy to obtain marijuana(1).
Prohibition is doing a swell job :roll:
The study proves two things...
1. Pot is bad for your health.
2. Prohibition is not working.
The Prohibition is working, it is ILLEGAL. Are only problem is we suck at enforcing it, I say we start fining parents IMHO.
Oh yeah, are you going to fine MY parents for MY smoking? HAHA, good luck with that, I'm 28 years old. And my first puff was at age 19.
Tougher laws aren't going to help, you can give that up, unless you want to wave "bye-bye" to the Bill of Rights. I can get pot in 60 minutes, maybe less, any day of the week. In fact after 11pm, and all day on Sunday, it's easier for me to buy weed than a bottle of liquor, MUCH easier.
The fact that we suck at enforcing the laws (and at a cost of BILLIONS of dollars every year at that), is proof prohibition isn't working. Yeah, it keeps it illegal, but it sure as hell doesn't keep it out of the hands of millions of Americans.
You have no idea how much money in taxes WE lose out on every year. It's sad, that money should be going to teachers, to children without health insurance, and to a lot of others that need it. And no, because of people like yourself, that money goes into the hands of drug dealers, criminals, murderers, and street gangs. Pathetic.
People smoke it. Live with it. You cannot change human nature, and you're a fool if you think you can.