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jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Operandi
Originally posted by: AndyT
Well, with onboard video (or low power anyway) and a miserly processor I would agree. I have been through enough data corrruption and instabilty with my high end systems to know that nothing close to 300w (or 500w at times) will do. This is without a dual video card setup.

I will say that quality has the most to do with a power supplies capabilties. Cheap junk = junk.

Did you even read the link above? It's piratically impossible to break 300 watts without resorting to dual CPUs and/or GPUs.

And nobody in this thread is talking about "cheap junk", just Seasonic, Enhance, and FSP.

Operandi, cut the poor guy a break OCZ isn't in the business of selling low-wattage PSUs.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Operandi
Originally posted by: AndyT
Well, with onboard video (or low power anyway) and a miserly processor I would agree. I have been through enough data corrruption and instabilty with my high end systems to know that nothing close to 300w (or 500w at times) will do. This is without a dual video card setup.

I will say that quality has the most to do with a power supplies capabilties. Cheap junk = junk.

Did you even read the link above? It's piratically impossible to break 300 watts without resorting to dual CPUs and/or GPUs.

And nobody in this thread is talking about "cheap junk", just Seasonic, Enhance, and FSP.

Operandi, cut the poor guy a break OCZ isn't in the business of selling low-wattage PSUs.

I'm not a salesman and I'm not trying to sell anything. People read these posts and get the idea that a 29.00 300w PSU will power anything they can build. Believe me that after 5 years of supporting customers with system issues i have pretty much seen and heard it all.

Thanks for the nice remark jpeyton.
 

jpeyton

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AndyT, you're completely right about PSUs being one of the leading causes of system problems. I agree fully.

For a low power system (as the OP stated: "the lowest power(V) cpu setup i can find") plus a handful of drives (HDD/ODD), and integrated everything else, a 300W unit will power it just fine.

Now if he was planning on a dual-core system with a high power video card, I'd definitely echo your recommendation for a higher power unit.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: AndyT
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Operandi
Originally posted by: AndyT
Well, with onboard video (or low power anyway) and a miserly processor I would agree. I have been through enough data corrruption and instabilty with my high end systems to know that nothing close to 300w (or 500w at times) will do. This is without a dual video card setup.

I will say that quality has the most to do with a power supplies capabilties. Cheap junk = junk.

Did you even read the link above? It's piratically impossible to break 300 watts without resorting to dual CPUs and/or GPUs.

And nobody in this thread is talking about "cheap junk", just Seasonic, Enhance, and FSP.

Operandi, cut the poor guy a break OCZ isn't in the business of selling low-wattage PSUs.

I'm not a salesman and I'm not trying to sell anything. People read these posts and get the idea that a 29.00 300w PSU will power anything they can build. Believe me that after 5 years of supporting customers with system issues i have pretty much seen and heard it all.

Thanks for the nice remark jpeyton.

i think the people would read that it is for a low power, low heat setup. i am not trying to run a quad and dual 8800gtxs with this thing, just a low power cpu and some hdds - like a xp-m or one of the am2 65nm low end processors. if you don't think the $32 300W fsp or a $55 seasonic can handle this with great reliability then i suggest you take more training classes.... - one more thing - how is ram sli certified?
 

Zepper

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This iStar unit looks like a lot of PSU for the money. And the 400 Watter isn't much more. They are made by Macron for iStar so I don't know much about them but companies don't usually put aPFC and auto-ranging AC sensing in junkers.

.bh.
 
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Originally posted by: bob4432

if you don't think the $32 300W fsp or a $55 seasonic can handle this with great reliability then i suggest you take more training classes.... - one more thing - how is ram sli certified?

Once again, I never said that one of those PSU's would not power a "low power" rig. Some of you seem to get on an insult kick. I have to wonder if you would make the same comments if you were face to face with me or anyone else. The internet promotes bravery beyond common sense. Most of you are mature and polite.

I won't even comment on the training remark.

SLI certification is done my Nvidia. You pay, they test and if it qualifies it's certified. It's a simple concept used throughout all industries. It falls under the general heading of "licensing".


 

John

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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
iStar is supposed to be good.

The well reviewed Antec EarthWatts 500W is $40 AR at CompUSA, might be able to do an in store will-call.
One review can be found at http://www.jonnyguru.com/ > Reviews.

Check my 1st & 4th post.
 

GalvanizedYankee

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Originally posted by: John
Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
iStar is supposed to be good.

The well reviewed Antec EarthWatts 500W is $40 AR at CompUSA, might be able to do an in store will-call.
One review can be found at http://www.jonnyguru.com/ > Reviews.

Check my 1st & 4th post.

Sorry I forgot your link. I really don't follow PSU threads here because too many members are like monkeys at the zoo pooping in their own hand, then throwing it at eachother.

The Earthwatts is OK, it's a low end Seasonic provided unit filled with OST caps. They will last beyond warranty, unlike the Fuhjyyu filled SP & TP.

 
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Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Originally posted by: John
Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
iStar is supposed to be good.

The well reviewed Antec EarthWatts 500W is $40 AR at CompUSA, might be able to do an in store will-call.
One review can be found at http://www.jonnyguru.com/ > Reviews.

Check my 1st & 4th post.

Sorry I forgot your link. I really don't follow PSU threads here because too many members are like monkeys at the zoo pooping in their own hand, then throwing it at eachother.

The Earthwatts is OK, it's a low end Seasonic provided unit filled with OST caps. They will last beyond warranty, unlike the Fuhjyyu filled SP & TP.

Haha, awsome analogy!
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: AndyT
Originally posted by: bob4432

if you don't think the $32 300W fsp or a $55 seasonic can handle this with great reliability then i suggest you take more training classes.... - one more thing - how is ram sli certified?

Once again, I never said that one of those PSU's would not power a "low power" rig. Some of you seem to get on an insult kick. I have to wonder if you would make the same comments if you were face to face with me or anyone else. The internet promotes bravery beyond common sense. Most of you are mature and polite.

I won't even comment on the training remark.

SLI certification is done my Nvidia. You pay, they test and if it qualifies it's certified. It's a simple concept used throughout all industries. It falls under the general heading of "licensing".

same way in person as i am here....

with the ram, why not just put nvidia certified? i would think the term "sli certified" may make unknowing customers think that that ram is necessary for their sli rigs?

and also, you represent your company very well :thumbsup:
 
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