Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: gotsmack
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: eilute
Originally posted by: Tango
4000 years of hystory teach walls and fences never worked.
That is a
very good point. I was not aware of that though. Somehow I doubt that the government will look back on history before they procede.
Actually, walls worked great until technology made them obsolete. This wall should be fine considering the level of technology we're up against with this particular enemy.
The Wall of Adrian didn't prevent the collapse of the Roman Empire, just as The Chinese Great Wall didn't eventually prevent the Mongols from taking over the Chinese Empire. The great walls of Troy or Costantinopolis didn't stop them from collapting at some point. The maginot line didn't stop the germans and the Wall in Berlin couldn't stop ideas and ideals that eventually undermined it and made it crumble. The wall is Israel is not working and this wall on the Mexican border will not work either.
There are forces much stronger than any technology you can think of. Change the social and historical shifts causing the need for the wall, and you will not need the wall in fis=rst place. If you don't ask yourself what are you trying to prevent with your wall, and act on those causes, no wall you can build will solve the problem.
The Gates of Vienna.
and Mexico is a few GENERATIONS from being fixed because their legal system isn't that strong.
The gates of Vienna didn't prevent a social process from happening, they just prevented an army from conquering a city and (possibly) a country.
The walls of Rome repelled many sieges. They couldn't prevent the crumble of the empire though, because it came from a socio-economic process, not a military threat. Barbarians conquered Rome, because Rome was ready to be conquered, no matter how tall its walls were.
Mexicans are flowing into the US because of both Mexico and US socio-economic conditions. Everybody focus on the mexican side of this process and ignore the US side. Bad mistake.
To solve this problem you must first understand where it originates. But exactly like Rome (and every other empire before and after it) the US is not able to aknowledge this anymore.
Nobody can stop history, and every macro data you look at will give you the same answer: the age of Asia is beginning. Immigration problems and big walls are just a footnote in a much larger global process nobody can stop.