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MtnMan

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2004
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Last week they noted that we've had 200,000 more deaths than usual, so figure you can attribute those 200,000 to the virus.

They're finding that even seemingly asymptomatic contractors of this thing can suffer major damage. And just because it doesn't kill you doesn't mean you don't have major damage, often lifelong damage. This virus causes a wider range of effects on the human body than any previous in medical history.
You mean it not "just the sniffles"?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Hence the disdain and contempt that coastal blue staters have for economically disadvantaged rural deplorables and flyover states.

The root cause of racism is socio economic opportunity. These white folk you speak of can win that war at any time by fixing the problems in their own back yards, and sharing their economic good fortune with the less fortunate. You can’t win the war when you assault the wrong hill.

The stones are flying because of Trump, and rationalizing their use is dangerous because it wouldn’t take much for that stone to be directed at you.

So dishonest. The disdain has run the other way since Reagan, from the lips of Limbaugh, Gingrich & a whole constellation of right wing talking heads into the innermost beliefs & attitudes of American conservatives. They believe in a lot of things that simply aren't true.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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175,000 dead due to covid19.
800,000-1,000,000 million annual aborted babies due to the disease of liberalism.
You do the math.





The only prevention is to not have sex... I recall a certain non-conservative group arguing against that as a fundamental policy... God forbid that people who are not ready to have children practice some self control and keep their pants on.




Abortion was also popularized by white Supremacists as a way to implement Black Genocide... but hey... lets keep peddling that bullsh1t as positive womens reproductive rights.

Religious folks who believe a fertilized egg is a child have “aborted” dozens of times more children than all abortion providers combined, by their own logic.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
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The only prevention is to not have sex... I recall a certain non-conservative group arguing against that as a fundamental policy... God forbid that people who are not ready to have children practice some self control and keep their pants on.

Why do people keep proposing such stupid solutions? If that was a working solution it would have already worked like a thousand years ago.
The simple fact is that while an individual might have the self control to manage that, people do not.

This is the 'just don't do that' solution. Well, if it were really that simple then it would never have been a problem in the first place.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Why do people keep proposing such stupid solutions? If that was a working solution it would have already worked like a thousand years ago.
The simple fact is that while an individual might have the self control to manage that, people do not.

This is the 'just don't do that' solution. Well, if it were really that simple then it would never have been a problem in the first place.

doing the same thing over and expecting a different result..... You'd think people would learn eventually.
The funny/sad part no one WANTS abortion. It's not like Oprah is handing out abortion vouchers or a woman says "damn I really want to get pregnant just so I can have an abortion". Reducing abortions is a universally good thing. Everyone can agree on that.

If abstinence-only education isn't working (duh, and proven over and over), then why not try something that actually does?
You know, like comprehensive sex education, and easy access for both men and women to birth control. And as a bonus, empowering women over when and how they have children also improves economic outcomes too!

But then people would have sex! The horrors! Humans have only been banging....since before modern religion existed.

Maybe one day...maybe one day....
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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It's because basically all of modern American conservatism is projection - they excuse all of the horrible things they do based on the idea that liberals would do the same if they had the chance. Why do they hate liberals? Because they imagine liberals hate them.

The sad part is that liberals DON'T do the same things they do. They don't have the same hatred for conservatives that conservatives have for liberals. Liberals have plenty of problems of their own but the disease in our country is a right wing reactionary mob that would rather see the country burn than admit their time is over. The way you justify burning the country is by convincing yourself the other side is just as bad, and useful/dishonest idiots like Starbuck help them do it. (don't forget, Starbuck doctored a news story to try and convince people liberals were to blame in Portland)

We have been putting this conflict off for years but I am personally scared to see what will happen if/when Trump loses and that reactionary mob has to face reality. I think it won't be pretty.
Love your stuff. I believe it is always the more conscious among us that will have to shoulder the greater emotional pain, who do and have done so throughout history who need to do the heavy lifting.
The left, the liberal, those most morally animated to see justice and equality have two of the most important moral concerns untrammeled by the many more moral concerns that animate conservatives. In short, liberals have fewer sacred cows than conservatives and thus fewer areas where they can be morally duplicitous, fewer targets or areas by which conditioning can fuck them up. You won’t find, for example, so many religious crack pots, so many perverted moral disciplinarians.

And thus, among liberals we can expect to see less need to engage in altered reality thinking, rationalization and cult group clinging.

It is the job, then, In my opinion, for liberals to take the lead in the process of psychological education, to teach what can be learned by self analysis and introspection, to affirm the greater moral values that conservatives and their proper place in terms of survival value they can impart to society, but only when in their proper form and not all fucked up as has happened in competitive conservative America, not when they lead to a backward, self hating anti science, fearful collection of cult worshipers.

Without justice and equality all moral values become corrupted but they can never be achieved by force of authoritarian rule. They can only be achieved by compassion and light. And so it is that light that must be brought, the light that lack of compassion can’t be tolerated, that truth must be spoken to the evil of reliance of power, and that truth is a mirror of horrors.

We are as we are because we had to be to survive, that the love of the good we believe our ideologies represent in nothing but ego protection, a protection we needed to survive as children but can be abandoned for the real good that was, is, and will always be written in our genes, that we sleep and need the courage to awaken.

Liberals exercise the greater capacity to reason without fear, to see things rationally, but what they fear most is irrationality and fear is hate. But there is a perfectly rational reason why people are irrational, it is so they don’t feel their own self hate, and that was the only way we could survive as children. We had to die psychologically in order to survive. There in nobody to blame for this and no one we can justifiably hate.

It Is this burden that truly progressive liberals must bear, that they be the first not to hate that they do the best they can to trust that love is real. On Earth as it is in Heaven. If we create a heaven for the other we will find ourselves there.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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Love your stuff. I believe it is always the more conscious among us that will have to shoulder the greater emotional pain, who do and have done so throughout history who need to do the heavy lifting.
The left, the liberal, those most morally animated to see justice and equality have two of the most important moral concerns untrammeled by the many more moral concerns that animate conservatives. In short, liberals have fewer sacred cows than conservatives and thus fewer areas where they can be morally duplicitous, fewer targets or areas by which conditioning can fuck them up. You won’t find, for example, so many religious crack pots, so many perverted moral disciplinarians.

And thus, among liberals we can expect to see less need to engage in altered reality thinking, rationalization and cult group clinging.

It is the job, then, In my opinion, for liberals to take the lead in the process of psychological education, to teach what can be learned by self analysis and introspection, to affirm the greater moral values that conservatives and their proper place in terms of survival value they can impart to society, but only when in their proper form and not all fucked up as has happened in competitive conservative America, not when they lead to a backward, self hating anti science, fearful collection of cult worshipers.

Without justice and equality all moral values become corrupted but they can never be achieved by force of authoritarian rule. They can only be achieved by compassion and light. And so it is that light that must be brought, the light that lack of compassion can’t be tolerated, that truth must be spoken to the evil of reliance of power, and that truth is a mirror of horrors.

We are as we are because we had to be to survive, that the love of the good we believe our ideologies represent in nothing but ego protection, a protection we needed to survive as children but can be abandoned for the real good that was, is, and will always be written in our genes, that we sleep and need the courage to awaken.

Liberals exercise the greater capacity to reason without fear, to see things rationally, but what they fear most is irrationality and fear is hate. But there is a perfectly rational reason why people are irrational, it is so they don’t feel their own self hate, and that was the only way we could survive as children. We had to die psychologically in order to survive. There in nobody to blame for this and no one we can justifiably hate.

It Is this burden that truly progressive liberals must bear, that they be the first not to hate that they do the best they can to trust that love is real. On Earth as it is in Heaven. If we create a heaven for the other we will find ourselves there.
You might get a nose bleed from the height of that pedestal you've put yourself on.
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I thought you were American?

I’m both (born in Canada—naturalized American citizen.) Good to have an exit strategy in case shit hits the fan...but if America really goes fascist authoritarian, the first thing they’ll do is invade Canada!
 
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blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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I’m both (born in Canada—naturalized American citizen.) Good to have an exit strategy in case shit hits the fan...but if America really goes fascist authoritarian, the first thing they’ll do is invade Canada!

aahhh got it.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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You might get a nose bleed from the height of that pedestal you've put yourself on.
As a builder you should know that nobody can erect a pedestal to nose bleed heights without first having lain a massive foundation or having floated there with an ego not even of feather weight.

But because I want you to know who you are, perhaps I might suggest that the reason you felt a need to make this about me is because something I said set off something in you. Was there something in what I said that made you feel I believe I am better than you.

Don't get me wrong, I am a nobody and certainly no saint but I do think I like myself enough that I can't recognize or don't see in me a really problematic need to feel I am better than you. I thank you for your thoughts. Others often see us better than we see ourselves. One of the things I have had to face, hating myself as I do, is that my ego was there to make me feel better about myself. For reasons I can't be clear on, I see not to have been able to hide as successfully from myself as others do about how bad I felt. I found myself all alone in a cold benign universe that had no meaning. I gave up there and died, my treasures lost to the wind. The wonder is that only false reality can die. The real thing, the Garden of Eden is always here. The wonderful joke of life is that the door to heaven was hidden deeply in hell. Up is down.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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It is the same poster who believes his rural, sparsely populated area is completely self sufficient and needs nothing from "urban areas".

yeah, same people stocking their bug-out bunkers and prepping themselves for armaggedon, claiming they could live on their own for at least 5 years in a pinch...suddenly lost their shit, en masse, when the quarantines were suggested and the utter crime of telling them to wear masks in public.

all fucking mindless bitches, wholly dependent on modern society and the services that it offers. not a single fucking one of them could figure out how to wipe their own asses if they were down to 3 rolls of TP.
 

MtnMan

Diamond Member
Jul 27, 2004
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175,000 dead due to covid19.
800,000-1,000,000 million annual aborted babies due to the disease of liberalism.
You do the math.
Trump is catching up with the death of sentient people. Under his leadership 1,000,000 is not that far fetched as the body count for 12 months.

To date the body count exceeds the combined total of American war dead from Spanish-American War, the War of 1812, Afghanistan War, Iraq War, Mexican-American War, Korean War, Viet Nam, WWI and, 9/11.
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
Jan 6, 2005
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So dishonest. The disdain has run the other way since Reagan, from the lips of Limbaugh, Gingrich & a whole constellation of right wing talking heads into the innermost beliefs & attitudes of American conservatives. They believe in a lot of things that simply aren't true.
I respectfully disagree
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
22,209
4,923
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Trump is catching up with the death of sentient people. Under his leadership 1,000,000 is not that far fetched as the body count for 12 months.

To date the body count exceeds the combined total of American war dead from Spanish-American War, the War of 1812, Afghanistan War, Iraq War, Mexican-American War, Korean War, Viet Nam, WWI and, 9/11.


Just think if anyone else was in office no one would have died from Covid-19.
 
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