Originally posted by: zendari
Example of how Gays are any more rampant with their sexuality compared to "Normal" People? You ever watch TV, listen to music or read A's in magazines for Liquor and suchj? It's all about "Normal Peoples" sexuality. Of course when your only view is that of you lower intestinal tract it's easy tio understand how you might have missed it.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: zendari
Don't teach our kids that its a virtue to be gay in public schools and half the problems go away.You can start up gay schools if you wish like we have catholic schools.
Hardly. If we had Christian "tolerance" workshops the way the ACLU is pushing gay workshops the libbies would be in an uproar.Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.You mean "Fundie" tolerence work shops. Well if the Fundies would stop trying to tell everybody else how they should live and behave there would be no need for it.
Exactly, you want the law to keep them in the "closet". You know, in another thread, you said that divorce was a sin but accepted by god becuase we are not perfect. That's convenient that you give yourself that out but dont give gays the same leniency. I just think that you should be fair.Maybe for you but your religious beliefs should have no bearing on those who do not share them. Of course like I posted earlier you don't seem to get that and then you wonder why others condem you when you try to force those beliefs on those who have no interests in them. Here's an idea, just live your life and let others live theirs.Divorce is acceptable because an adulterous, unhappy marraige no longer holds the true spirit of God. There are grounds in the Bible for divorce.
Homosexuality is activity befitting the devil and is never acceptable.
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
Homosexuality is activity befitting the devil and is never acceptable.
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
Originally posted by: joshsquall
From a Christian point of view, this is wrong. Marriage, as defined by the Bible, is between a man and a woman.
From an economic and social point of view, gay marriage just isn't practical.
Feel free to live together and love each other for all of your days, but marriage is not for gays, in the eyes of God or society.
Didn't have too, I just looked at the sources and knew that it was Fundie or Ultra Right Wing nonsense.Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: joshsquall
From a Christian point of view, this is wrong. Marriage, as defined by the Bible, is between a man and a woman.
From an economic and social point of view, gay marriage just isn't practical.
Feel free to live together and love each other for all of your days, but marriage is not for gays, in the eyes of God or society.
kinda odd, really...
how can church endore something that is explicitly against what bible says? I'm not realigious by any means, but this is kinda odd...
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Didn't have too, I just looked at the sources and knew that it was Fundie or Ultra Right Wing nonsense.Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
Originally posted by: zendari
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Not when they are from sites run by Extremists.Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Didn't have too, I just looked at the sources and knew that it was Fundie or Ultra Right Wing nonsense.Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
No one who has an opinion on an issue is ever credible, eh?
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Not when they are from sites run by Extremists.Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Didn't have too, I just looked at the sources and knew that it was Fundie or Ultra Right Wing nonsense.Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
No one who has an opinion on an issue is ever credible, eh?
Nope, I don't consider Left Wing Extremists sites credible either.Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Not when they are from sites run by Extremists.Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Didn't have too, I just looked at the sources and knew that it was Fundie or Ultra Right Wing nonsense.Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
No one who has an opinion on an issue is ever credible, eh?
Except when they agree with you.
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
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Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Short of Howard Dean, I doubt there is a leftwinged extremist to someone like you.
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Short of Howard Dean, I doubt there is a leftwinged extremist to someone like you.
That's my point, let them be. What works for you, doesn't work for them and vice versa. They won't make you hide that you're straight or a christian because you have the american right to be free and they in turn deserve the same right.
And I don't know why you degenerated into an attack on liberal ideology.
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Short of Howard Dean, I doubt there is a leftwinged extremist to someone like you.
That's my point, let them be. What works for you, doesn't work for them and vice versa. They won't make you hide that you're straight or a christian because you have the american right to be free and they in turn deserve the same right.
And I don't know why you degenerated into an attack on liberal ideology.
I agree. They have the right to be whatever they want to be.
Let's get back to the topic of the thread: Christians permitting gay marriage.. It's completely different from legalizing gay marriage or even accepting gays.
I wouldn't know, I am new to the Mass area. FYI, MA was founded by Puritanical Extremists much like you and your Brethren, I guess they were able to overcome it with the influx of Catholic Immigrants.Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Short of Howard Dean, I doubt there is a leftwinged extremist to someone like you.
That's my point, let them be. What works for you, doesn't work for them and vice versa. They won't make you hide that you're straight or a christian because you have the american right to be free and they in turn deserve the same right.
And I don't know why you degenerated into an attack on liberal ideology.
I agree. They have the right to be whatever they want to be.
Let's get back to the topic of the thread: Christians permitting gay marriage.. It's completely different from legalizing gay marriage or even accepting gays.
We have come a long ways from the topic. Anyway, I still don't see the problem. You're free to worship the lord however you like. Why can't they? You interpret it differently. Different interpretations are the reason we have about a million different christion denominations. If you have a problem with this, you should have a problem with the existance of all those other sects and their different beliefs.
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Short of Howard Dean, I doubt there is a leftwinged extremist to someone like you.
That's my point, let them be. What works for you, doesn't work for them and vice versa. They won't make you hide that you're straight or a christian because you have the american right to be free and they in turn deserve the same right. I don't expect you to put a rainbow sticker in your car window and you're free to criticise their life style all you want, but you should not be able to legislate it out of existance just because it disagrees with a religion. We don't do that in America. That's part of what makes us great.
And I don't know why you degenerated into an attack on liberal ideology and Howard Dean.
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Short of Howard Dean, I doubt there is a leftwinged extremist to someone like you.
That's my point, let them be. What works for you, doesn't work for them and vice versa. They won't make you hide that you're straight or a christian because you have the american right to be free and they in turn deserve the same right.
And I don't know why you degenerated into an attack on liberal ideology.
I agree. They have the right to be whatever they want to be.
Let's get back to the topic of the thread: Christians permitting gay marriage.. It's completely different from legalizing gay marriage or even accepting gays.
We have come a long ways from the topic. Anyway, I still don't see the problem. You're free to worship the lord however you like. Why can't they? You interpret it differently. Different interpretations are the reason we have about a million different christion denominations. If you have a problem with this, you should have a problem with the existance of all those other sects and their different beliefs.
I don't have a problem with them worshipping or attending Church. I do have a problem with them endorsing gay marriage. Different sects don't do things that are sinful, they just believe different things about the history of the Church, who can interpret the Bible, and how one is saved. Christian marriage is defined as between a man and a woman, in the Bible. I just don't understand how the members of the UCC can promote something which is against the Bible. Accept and love gays, but don't encourage them to live with one another and have sexual relationships.
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
You're probably right. It's acceptable for the people in New Orleans, wouldn't work in other places.Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Acceptable for whom? I bet if it was done in some Hick Fundie Township in North Carolina there would be outrage by the local Bible Thumpers, many of whom don't believe that Catholicism (it's a Catholic Festival) is really ChristianityOriginally posted by: zendari
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
I guess anyone who disagress with the Massachusetts ideology is an extremist. Not suprised.
Short of Howard Dean, I doubt there is a leftwinged extremist to someone like you.
That's my point, let them be. What works for you, doesn't work for them and vice versa. They won't make you hide that you're straight or a christian because you have the american right to be free and they in turn deserve the same right.
And I don't know why you degenerated into an attack on liberal ideology.
I agree. They have the right to be whatever they want to be.
Let's get back to the topic of the thread: Christians permitting gay marriage.. It's completely different from legalizing gay marriage or even accepting gays.
We have come a long ways from the topic. Anyway, I still don't see the problem. You're free to worship the lord however you like. Why can't they? You interpret it differently. Different interpretations are the reason we have about a million different christion denominations. If you have a problem with this, you should have a problem with the existance of all those other sects and their different beliefs.
I don't have a problem with them worshipping or attending Church. I do have a problem with them endorsing gay marriage. Different sects don't do things that are sinful, they just believe different things about the history of the Church, who can interpret the Bible, and how one is saved. Christian marriage is defined as between a man and a woman, in the Bible. I just don't understand how the members of the UCC can promote something which is against the Bible. Accept and love gays, but don't encourage them to live with one another and have sexual relationships.
And that's where you're wrong. I grew up Southern Baptist. It is a sin under the teachings of Southern Baptists to drink alcohol. The body is a temple. All of the other denominations were wrong in allowing and sometimes even encouraging drinking. Another example would be a lady that lived on my block belonged to a congragation that said it was a sin to gamble. Yet, I knew another person that had raffles at thier church. These are all inconsistincies in what is believed to be a sin as expressed by the bible. If you can live with these inconsistincies then you shouldn't have a problem with the UCC worshipping in its own way.
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Didn't have too, I just looked at the sources and knew that it was Fundie or Ultra Right Wing nonsense.Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
No one who has an opinion on an issue is ever credible, eh?
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Didn't have too, I just looked at the sources and knew that it was Fundie or Ultra Right Wing nonsense.Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
And that's all that much different than the Parades in New Orleans during Mardi Gra or having women flash their tits for beads during that festival?Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: tss4
Originally posted by: zendari
Same would be true if the gays wouldn't run rampant with their sexuality the way normal people do.
How do they behave any differet from any other couple? I've seem plenty of diplays of public affection from straight couples. They kiss, they hold hands, same as any gay couple. So how is it, that you can accuse them of being rampant? Please, provide specific examples, if you could.
A quick google search reveals
Gay Parade
Gay parade2
Gay parade3
That's a acceptable cultural parade for everyone, not a deviant sin-promoting perversion for heretics and queers.
Do you have any sources that have the slightest bit of credibilty Fundie Boy?
You couldn't have read all of that in 5 minutes.
No one who has an opinion on an issue is ever credible, eh?
You may have any opinion you what. His is that yours is worthless. Mine is that he is more credible than you.
Fundamentalist Christian bigotry has a unique and easily recognizable stench. It isn't unexpected for folks who live around skunks to wrinkle their noses at the sight of black and white stripes.
Bigots are disgusting but, remember, we don't hate the skunk, we hate the smell or at least I do.
When you crawl out of your feted and rancid cult churches and lift your tail at the Constitution don't be surprised at the shotguns that start pointing your way.
Every time you bigots preach your bigotry you shove your asses in our face.