PS2 or XBox

[Sugadaddy]

<< Don?t tell me that MS is a huge company and can pour money into the XBox. Nintendo is larger than Sony or MS. >>




Really? I'd really like to see you back that up...


Sony has SCEA, the VAIO line of computers, their electronics division, Sony Music, etc... And MS, well it's MS. I thought Nintendo was the smaller of the 3...

 

[WageSlave]

Actually, Nintendo is not only wealthy and huge, they are also debt free...



that being said..


I would go gamecube.. its for your little bro, and I think the gamecube will have the best games for a younger player....

if nto that, then an xbox.... PS2 isnt that much better than psone IMHO

 

[rhinox99]

Gamecube!

I have one myself with Rogue Leader and Smash Brothers and they are awesome!

 

[Sunner]

Microsoft is bigger than Nintendo, dont know how big Sony is though, but I'd imagine they're worth quite a bit considdering they have over 180.000 people employed worldwide.

 

[bubbadu]

get him BOTH, both the ps2 and xbox...and a gamecube, sure why not... oh wait thats just me who bought them all... .... seriously though.. i would probaly just get a ps2... possibly xbox..

-Bubbadu

 

[wluk]

i think it really depends what games he likes better.

i would definitely pick ps2 just for ffx and gt3.

gamecube is a good choose too. at least you can get him 2 more games.

 

[JackBurton]

All I can tell you is that I bought an X-Box and I LOVE IT! Halo is freakin' AWESOME! I'm a PC guy and although I do prefer a keyboard/mouse to play games, the X-Box controller does just fine, but you DEFINITELY have to get used to it. As for the GC's controller, that thing sucks my ass. I have NO idea how someone can put down the X-Box controller and then follow it up by praising the GC's. I also have NO idea how people could even come close to saying the the GC has better games than the X-Box. Those are the GAYEST games I've ever seen. It just reminds why I never bought the N64. On the other hand, the PS2 has some really good games out but it has been out for a year. The X-Box put out some impressive games at its launch. I have Project Gotham, Halo, DOA3, and NHL Hitz. The NHL game is fun as hell and I don't even like hockey. The X-Box is also going to release some REALLY cool games in the future. For people saying the X-Box is going to fail, you must be smoking crack! If anything were goign to fail it would be Nintendo. I see a good fight between the PS2 and the X-Box, where the GC will be left for the 12 and under crowd. I talk to A LOT a people and high school kids (my nephews) and NO ONE is even considering the GC for the simple fact the games are too kiddy. I think the ONLY people that think the GC is cool are the people on these computer forums. If I had the choice between the X-Box and PS2, I'd DEFINITELY get the X-Box. I'm planning on getting the PS2 too but only because I already have the X-Box.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

I agree with JackBurton, the XBOX controller is great... if you hae big hands (and I do). It takes a few minutes to get used to but it fits nicely in my hands and I don't get numb thumbs after playing Halo for hours. The GC controller on the other hand, is just too damn small. The button placement is good but I feel like I'm not holding on anything. IMHO Halo is the best console game on the market right now (I have played GT3, Metal Gear 2, and GT3). Plus, system link games are so much fun.

-Ice

 

[pcclub2000]

I will go with XBox!!

Faster, better hardware, better video quality

not so much games, microsoft

 

[kreno]

<< X-Box controller does just fine, but you DEFINITELY have to get used to it. As for the GC's controller, that thing sucks my ass. I have NO idea how someone can put down the X-Box controller and then follow it up by praising the GC's. I also have NO idea how people could even come close to saying the the GC has better games than the X-Box. >>



Most people don't have huge hands. I have used the normal GC controller as well as 2 other 3rd party controllers... it's just better laid out. The X-Box controller's buttons are terribly placed. They should have opted for a diamond button layout rather than this smooshed square thing they've got going. That would make all the difference.



<< Those are the GAYEST games I've ever seen. >>



Seen? Shouldn't you play them in order to give judgement? Sure they looks VERY kiddy, but the secret to Nintendo is that they make games that are fun and appeal to LARGE audiences. Luigi's Mansion I cannot see an 8 year old playing though, it's too difficult, as well as Pikmin, it may be kiddy "looking" but my brother had trouble figuring it out. And they place a time limit for beating the entirety of the game. It's not easy by any means. Third of all, is Rogue Leader, Super Smash Brothers, Metroid, Mario and Resident Evil gay? Because they're all either there or coming soon man.



<< If anything were goign to fail it would be Nintendo. I see a good fight between the PS2 and the X-Box, where the GC will be left for the 12 and under crowd. I talk to A LOT a people and high school kids (my nephews) and NO ONE is even considering the GC for the simple fact the games are too kiddy. I think the ONLY people that think the GC is cool are the people on these computer forums. >>



A lot of people have X-Box's yes. A lot of people have PS2's yes. But GC's are incredibly hard to attain right now. I picked up more than likely the last one in my city. Reason being that GC's were limited to 700,000 units and MS was able to fill demand because of a domestic production plant.

 

[bozack]

As I have said in the past 50 threads on this subject......

Personally I would, and did go with and XBOX.....

Currently has enough good games out to warrant the purchase (Halo, Gotham Racing, DOA 3, Almost all of the sports titles, Max Payne)

Feature set is better than the comparably priced and year old technology of the PS2 (Built in NIC, ability to rip music onto Hard Drive, Actually has a Hard Drive vs. Memory cards)

The controllers are really not that bad as everyone makes them out to be...yeah they are a little bigger but if My GF can play with them without much problem then anyone can as she has really small hands, and they feel much higher quality than both the PS2 controllers and the cheapness of the gamecubes controllers.

The only reason I would even think of buying a PS2 now is if I had a lot of PS1 games that I liked kicking around, or if I just had to have a system that stands on its side.

The only reason I would think of buying a gamecube is if I were 9 years old and just loved those little cartoon characters...as someone said before all those crap first party games are what kept me from buying anything short of a gameboy from nintendo, but then again I was a sega child.....

Xbox has PSO comming out along with a whole host of planned titles from the top game companies withing the next year...that along with the MS network going up in March or summer will make for a winning combination.

 

[JackBurton]

<< Third of all, is Rogue Leader, Super Smash Brothers, Metroid, Mario and Resident Evil gay? Because they're all either there or coming soon man. >>


Rogue Leader is the ONLY game that is decent on that console. Resident Evil, well, I liked it when it FIRST came out on the PLAYSTATION! Now it is just overdone. As far as the other games you mentioned, YES, those are extremely gay games. I mean come on, Mario? How many times are they going to rehash that game? I liked it when Mario was fresh in Super Mario Brothers (original Nintendo) but that is it. After that it just got old. I don't care what it looks like, it is still Mario. If they made a Sesame Street game that was difficult, are you going to classify it as an "older crowd" game? I mean, come on. Do you REALLY need to play the Sesame Street game to call it gay? Like I said, I've played Rogue Leader and that is the ONLY game worth getting for the GC....well, if you are older than 12yrs old.

 

[Spyro]

Hmmmm, deping on how young your brother was, I'd get a GameCube. It may not have that many games right now, but there all cool.

 

[Lalakai]

If he has the PS1, then go with the PS2 because of the game support.

If he's just starting into a gaming platform then the decision is more difficult. The graphics are better on the xbox and it's using more current technology, but the PS2 has more games currently. The gamecube also has a strong graphics capability and current technology but doesn't have the dvd access/playback that the ps2 and xbox have. Some programers have pointed out that with xbox's "pc" origin that it will be easier to convert existing and developing pc games, to the xbox platform.

I also have a fast computer with excellent graphics but will also expand to a gaming platform that allow multiple player, and is designed for the tv. We also tricked out kids into answering the question and they choose the xbox, as do I.

 

[Damascus]

<< The only reason I would think of buying a gamecube is if I were 9 years old and just loved those little cartoon characters...as someone said before all those crap first party games are what kept me from buying anything short of a gameboy from nintendo, but then again I was a sega child..... >>



But of course. Having a great selection of first party titles and a great selection
of third party titles is bad. DAMN THEM FOR HAVING SUCH A WIDE RANGE OF CHOICE
AND SELECTION. GOD I HATE THEM DON'T YOU? </oh by the way that sarcasm>

ON TOPIC: PS2

MS and Sony are larger than Nintendo. Nintendo though is the largest games company
in the world, and I think they are the company that is making the most profit
out of the three.

 

[Jhill]

I say XBOX.

Why would you want to pay the same price for a system thats a year older?
Everyone says PS2 has more games but the ps2 has been out for over a year and the XBOX just came out so of course the ps2 is going to have more games. The xbox is going to have some awesome games out in the future.
Also the XBOX has much greater potential just look at the specs.
Or if you still can't decide go play Halo for an hour.

 

[RemyCanad]

Well this thread just when down the hole amazingly fast.

First of all JackBurton. This is not related to any of the consoles but I am putting it in because I cant respect your opinions because of it. (To a point). It is your use of the word gay. I see it everywhere and its going to drive me crazy if I don?t say something. I am guessing by saying that you are meaning that it is bad. But to me Gay mean homosexual. I am not sure how a game could be homosexual... at least my imagination can not come up with a way.
The use of that word in such a way is horrific. You sound as if you?re a 14 year old boy and just learned to say curse words. Now I am not trying to say that is how you act. You may be homophobic but that is your business. So please don?t use words such as that in that way.

I am almost sure you are just a X-Box supporter and never gave the Gamecube and its controller a chance.
All you state is that it "Sucks your ass". Well that?s some great evidence of its ass suckingness. But not for why you don?t like it.
The X-Box controller is not ergonomic. The GC's is very ergonomic and fits most peoples hands just fine. I cant argue with you over the controller because you didn?t give me any facts to why it "Sucks your ass"

I am very disappointed in the point that you made about Nintendo as being the company that will let there system fail. Ever hear about the N64? It didn?t fail, it by no means had a great and triumphant career but it didn?t fail. Nintendo backed it and still does. With very little support from third parties Nintendo had to make up the ground by 1st party support and they did. I really don?t think you know anything about counsels and the companies behind them but what you have heard from the uninformed X-Box and PS2 fans. All you did was bring up the common but wrong arguments that every "Super Fan" uses.
---Super Fan--- My word for a Fan of a system that does not actually know anything about the competition.

Bozack.
"The only reason I would think of buying a gamecube is if I were 9 years old and just loved those little cartoon characters...as someone said before all those crap first party games are what kept me from buying anything short of a gameboy from nintendo, but then again I was a sega child....."
Well you just proved no point at all. Look at the games out for the gamecube and lets number then up and see how many have "Little cartoon characters" and how many don't. And as you said you didn?t buy any Nintendo consoles, so of course you never played Perfect Dark, Golden Eye, and many of the other games there were not at all kiddy games.

Another thing I just thought of. You guys are saying the same old ?Nintendo has kiddy games?. Your are just comparing it to the N64! This is angering me a lot. The SNES and NES. They didn?t have the problem with the third party like the N64 did, they had many games. The Gamecube looks to of remedied the problem like I stated in the earlier post.
Also, the N64 had a more cartoony look than the PSX mainly because of hardware. The PSX was not smooth so it looked more... umm... textured and rough. The N64 had the hardware to make smoother 3d shaped. But its lack of texture memory and I would believe the processor power to texture the objects with nice large textures. Thus creating more cartoony looking characters.

 

[JackBurton]

<< First of all JackBurton. This is not related to any of the consoles but I am putting it in because I cant respect your opinions because of it. (To a point). It is your use of the word gay. I see it everywhere and its going to drive me crazy if I don?t say something. I am guessing by saying that you are meaning that it is bad. But to me Gay mean homosexual. I am not sure how a game could be homosexual... at least my imagination can not come up with a way.
The use of that word in such a way is horrific. You sound as if you?re a 14 year old boy and just learned to say curse words. Now I am not trying to say that is how you act. You may be homophobic but that is your business. So please don?t use words such as that in that way.
>>


If you don't like the way I use the word gay...well, too bad! Deal with it, because I'll use it the way I see fit. And if I feel like calling something gay, I will. And yes, the GC has the GAYEST games.


<< I really don?t think you know anything about counsels and the companies behind them but what you have heard from the uninformed X-Box and PS2 fans. >>


Let me give you a little history on my console background. I started playing games pretty heavily with the Atari 2600 and later jumped to the Sega Master System, then Nintendo, then Sega Genesis, then Sega Saturn. Now while Nintendo was working on the N64 (which was going to be called Ultra 64 but Nintendo wanted their name on it) I was ANXIOUSLY awaiting the new system which was SUPPOSED to be CD-ROM based. Well Sony was partners with Nintendo back then and since Nintendo kept pushing the release date back on the N64 (because they had problems getting a CD-ROM system out the door), Sony became impatient and broke off from them and created a console of their own, the Playstation. Nintendo then came out with the N64 but they couldn't make the switch to CD-ROM so they stuck with a more expensive cartridge system. When Nintendo said they were releasing a cartridge based system, that TOTALLY pissed me off! Cartridges were more expensive and couldn't fit as much data on it. Plus, those cool cut scenes on the Playstation, well, cartridge based system can't do that. All they can give you are still pictures with text scrolling at the bottom, because you're not going to fill up the whole cartridge with movie clips. And the LAST thing that TOTALLY cut me off from the N64, was Nintendo admitting they were gearing their games toward family type games (ie. kiddy games). In the end they might have changed their mind with that strategy with the release of games like GoldenEye but you can still see that game was watered down. Oh ya, and it sucked ass too. The odd thing was, the Playstation was a weaker system (hardware wise, 32bit) but it still was a MUCH better system than the N64. I'm known for buying consoles for ONE game but the N64 couldn't even give me that. Next I bought a DC, and the graphics were a HUGE leap over the PS1. I love the console but when I heard Sega abandoned it, I knew it was a matter of time before it would be archived on my entertainment system. Well next came the PS2, I was going to get it when it first came out but none of the games interested me enought to by it. Plus, the XBox and GC were coming out the next year. I would see how those systems compared before I made a choice. Well, when the XBox came out I really liked the games that came out with it. And no surprise to me, Nintendo looked like they were keeping with their "family" title games. The BIG game for GC was Luigi's Manson. Give me a freakin' break! Like I said, I've played Mario games enough waaaaaay back in the original Nintendo days. And all the other titles look similar (kiddy like). If you want to get a GC and think it is the best thing since sliced bread, go right ahead. But don't try and convince me to cram ANOTHER Mario game down my throat!

So ya, I guess I don't have very much experience with consoles.



Damn, that was a freakin' long post...Hey and look, one paragraph.

 

[tech]

hey the word gay also means happy Hey Tomek, I hope your bro has fun in whatever you get him. As for me, 2weeks of the xbox and my computer is on to only surf.

 

[ChrisIsBored]

<< Also the XBOX has much greater potential just look at the specs. >>




That's the problem with some of you PCr's who haven't been into console gaming...

Specs don't count for sh!t. I can name you several consoles that had better specs than anything else out at the time and they failed miserably.

Potential and specs are two different things. If you ever played any first or 2nd generation Playstation 1 games, and then played some more recent Playstation 1 games, you would SEE a difference. No Sony didn't change the specs over the last several years of the PS1.

The PS2 is the same. Current generation games are utilizing a quarter of the PS2's untapped power. Games will only get better and better as developers are getting used to the engine... The XBox is still DirectX crap which means programming is limited to what MS made it. Developers for the XBox aren't as free to do what they like as with the PS2.

If you want to compare Mhz to Mhz, well.. go find an AMD vs. Intel thread...

 

[BlvdKing]

The PS2 seems to be the best deal to me considering the fact that it plays PS1 games. I wouldn't buy one until they are $200 though. They aren't worth $300 in their current form IMO.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

<< The PS2 seems to be the best deal to me considering the fact that it plays PS1 games. I wouldn't buy one until they are $200 though. They aren't worth $300 in their current form IMO. >>



IMHO that's the most overhyped part of the PS2. Honestly, when you have a PS2 how many times do you play PS1 games? Secondly I bet a large portion of PS2 owners don't even own a PS1.

-Ice

 

[Vortex22]

I own both PS2 and Gamecube, both are awesome.
My friend has an Xbox, I've played Halo and DOA3...
Halo is a really good game, but not nearly as fun as GTA3 or SSBM.
DOA3 is just like DOA2 with prettier graphics... I prefer Soul Caliber (SC2 is coming for GC, I think Xbox and maybe Ps2 soon!)
I hated the controller on the Xbox. It wasn't the size, it was the fact that it just didn't feel good and didn't fit my hand nearly as well as the GC controller does.

So, I'd say either GC or PS2; can't go wrong with either one.

 

[Vortex22]

<< IMHO that's the most overhyped part of the PS2. Honestly, when you have a PS2 how many times do you play PS1 games? Secondly I bet a large portion of PS2 owners don't even own a PS1. >>



I own a PS1.
I play PS1 games.

 

[RemyCanad]

Luigi's Manson was not the main game for the GC... Just won of the first. The main game would of been either wave race or Rouge Squadron.
And you are still not getting it. I am really doubting you will, you seem to be as stubborn as a mountain.
Just because they released one kiddy type games doesn?t mean they will release only kiddy type games. And that just Nintendo. Somehow you have decided the only games that are for the GC are made by Nintendo. Just because Nintendo is catering to kids doesn?t mean if you have a Nintendo system you have to buy Nintendo games!

And about the history you have many details wrong. I am not going to list what when on just because I don?t know it all either. But I do know enough to know that you are wrong. I read an article a while back that told the whole history. And it wasn?t from a gamers viewpoint but from a financial one. IE Business.

And thanks for proving my point about the gay issue.