ps4 vs xbox one

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futurefields

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as for the xbox 360, it had atrocious graphics even for its day largely because of all of ati's trademark texture aliasing which is now amd's trademark texture aliasing.

Almost everything you write is spectacularly incorrect, even with regard to your favorite vintage consoles. What is the point of this act, Anarchist420? You must be getting quite a kick out of it. :biggrin:
 

phucheneh

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I wish they would just merge already. I mean, no one wants to see a monopoly, but surely I'm not the only one noticing how the PS controllers keeps becoming a little more like the Xbox...and the Xbox becomes a little more like the PS...and nitpicks aside, they might as well have the same hardware...maybe one's AMD processor is a little different from the other's AMD processor, but it's not like the 360's tri-core versus the asymmetrical 'Cell' or some such huge design difference.
 

Aikouka

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As someone that owns all three current-gen consoles (are we calling them that yet?), the PlayStation 4 feels like the most polished of all of them. Frankly, none of them have enough games to really warrant buying them, and that sadly includes the Wii U. Of course, that sort of reasoning never stops me!
 

purbeast0

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Explain how it is opinion. Looking at the hardware, I fail to see how lower specs at higher price some how makes something better or at the very least equal.

If you want to argue software, well it is hard to argue something that neither have much of. But, for shits and giggles, we can use past consoles libraries if you want. Then it comes down to what I first stated about liking exclusives and picking from that.

because the "better gaming console" is the one that has the games on it that the end user wants to play, not what is more powerful hardware wise. if that were the case, the pc would be the best gaming console out there, yet i haven't played a pc game in years nor do i plan to because i don't enjoy pc gaming. so to me the pc is not even in the same picture as ps4 or x1.

many people would say the ps2 is the better gaming console than the xbox, but it was less powerful. same with the playstation and sega saturn.

so yeah, it's 100% opinion.
 

Bman123

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After getting rid of my ps4 and using the xbone for 2 days I will say the interface is way better on the ps4. Its plain and simple right there. On the xbone you have to dig around for shit. Im not a windows 8 fan at all so I knew I wouldn't like the interface on the xbone.
 

KaOTiK

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because the "better gaming console" is the one that has the games on it that the end user wants to play, not what is more powerful hardware wise. if that were the case, the pc would be the best gaming console out there, yet i haven't played a pc game in years nor do i plan to because i don't enjoy pc gaming. so to me the pc is not even in the same picture as ps4 or x1.

many people would say the ps2 is the better gaming console than the xbox, but it was less powerful. same with the playstation and sega saturn.

so yeah, it's 100% opinion.

Like I said, if you want exclusives for one or the other that is the one to choose. But if exclusives don't play a role, then multiplatform titles will simply be better on the PS4, it is the better gaming console.

And don't even bother bring PC into this. That is like bring the 3DS/Vita into it. It is not a console. You don't enjoy PC gaming yet it can offer a similar or better experience than a console for games you can buy on it. Yes, it has it's own disadvantages but it also has many more advantages as well. But that is for another time.
 

purbeast0

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Like I said, if you want exclusives for one or the other that is the one to choose. But if exclusives don't play a role, then multiplatform titles will simply be better on the PS4, it is the better gaming console.

And don't even bother bring PC into this. That is like bring the 3DS/Vita into it. It is not a console. You don't enjoy PC gaming yet it can offer a similar or better experience than a console for games you can buy on it. Yes, it has it's own disadvantages but it also has many more advantages as well. But that is for another time.

but that's not what you said before, you said it's the flat out better gaming console with no caveats. sure exclusives play a role, but so does the controller, online ecosystem, and whatever else people want to make their own opinions on.

neither console is a "flat out better console". what you meant to say is the ps4 is the more powerful console from a raw hardware standpoint.
 

Bman123

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The ps4 is better spec wise but on the network side it doesn't hold a candle to Xbox live.
 

Dumac

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PS4 eventually. Neither right now.

For me, the PS3 exclusives were great - Demon's Souls, Uncharted, Last of Us, Ni no Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, Nier, God of War, and more. 360's only offers were Gears of War and Halo, neither of which I really cared for. I don't know if the PS4 will be like this, but I imagine it will. If so, I'll pick it up some time. Demon's Souls 2 would be enough to get me to pick it up. Maybe Deep Down if it ends up not being crap.
 
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ronbo613

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As a current Xbox 360 owner and Forza fan, the natural tendency would be to go for the Xbox One. However, recent experiences with BF4, COD Ghosts and the Microsoft billing department have taken the XBone out of the picture for me. I've never had a Sony console so I don't know if I would want one or not, but the "pay as you go" philosophy of both "current gen" console companies has made me take a hard look at returning to PC gaming, especially since I don't need any TV/cable/movie features; only games for me.
If I had to choose between the two consoles, I would choose to wait and see as long as I was able to hold out and see how things go.
 

Wingznut

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It's all about the games... Exclusive titles, that is. Multi-platform titles aren't discernably different.
 

Anteaus

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It's all about the games... Exclusive titles, that is. Multi-platform titles aren't discernably different.

Exactly. It's also annoying when people use delayed exclusives as if it matters today. The PS4 has an impressive assortment of exclusive games that will come out over the next few years, only the confirmed 2014 releases really matter today for early adopters as they set the tone for the future.

Everyone knows there will be a new God of War, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, etc, down the road. Everyone also knows there will be a new Halo, Gears of War, Forza, etc, down the road. There are no secrets here and deep down we as gamers already know which side we fall on in that sense.

As much as gamers like to flaunt the raw power of the PS4 as a deal maker/breaker, the multiplatform experience has not been the lopsided as originally expected. My XB1 version of AC4 is running at a lower internal resolution than the PS4 version, but my friends can't tell the two apart when they walk in and watch me play. I mean, they KNOW there is a difference, but it has zero impact on our gameplay experience. If anything, the on screen differences appear to be less than between the X360/PS3. In three years that might change, but today there is no obvious or apparent difference.

I wonder if the PS4 is going to be the global warming of gaming. As in, we know that it has influence over the gaming landscape and years from now it's effects will become more pronounced. That said, in 3 years are we going to be standing around while people make excuses on why it's predicted impact wasn't as obvious as originally expected?

Anyways, in my opinion it will be about the games, then the controller, and then maybe the hardware....with TV being a wildcard. Anyways, the PS4 is a beast, no doubt. It's just not as polarizing as some expected, at least as of December 2013.
 

cmdrdredd

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After getting rid of my ps4 and using the xbone for 2 days I will say the interface is way better on the ps4. Its plain and simple right there. On the xbone you have to dig around for shit. Im not a windows 8 fan at all so I knew I wouldn't like the interface on the xbone.

Yeah, that's what I feel too. There's a lot of things the XB1 does that I'm like "huh...it's simple to do that on the PS4 and it works. Wonder why it's a problem here." Yet there are other things that I do on the XB1 and I say "hey that'd kind of neat and could be useful". One such example is playing Forza for a few hours and not wanting to end the race I'm in and have 30 of 50 laps completed. So I just tell the xbox to watch TV and it switches for me. Once I'm ready to go back to forza it's right where I left off.

The ps4 is better spec wise but on the network side it doesn't hold a candle to Xbox live.

Actually the PS4 network has been fantastic for me. I played a bunch of Killzone before I got rid of it, but it was a solid experience with very good netcode. This isn't the same as the PS3 situation at all. I've had no issues with online gaming with the PS4. The store is also easier to navigate than the XB1 store for now except I still wish they separated the demos out and gave you an option to browse game demos. There were a few days of downtime right after launch and then at x-mas, but XBL also was down for me a couple times so it's a wash there for me.

As a current Xbox 360 owner and Forza fan, the natural tendency would be to go for the Xbox One. However, recent experiences with BF4, COD Ghosts and the Microsoft billing department have taken the XBone out of the picture for me. I've never had a Sony console so I don't know if I would want one or not, but the "pay as you go" philosophy of both "current gen" console companies has made me take a hard look at returning to PC gaming, especially since I don't need any TV/cable/movie features; only games for me.
If I had to choose between the two consoles, I would choose to wait and see as long as I was able to hold out and see how things go.

What do you mean by "pay as you go"? I'm not catching where you were going there.
 
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HeXen

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Exactly. It's also annoying when people use delayed exclusives as if it matters today. The PS4 has an impressive assortment of exclusive games that will come out over the next few years, only the confirmed 2014 releases really matter today for early adopters as they set the tone for the future.

Everyone knows there will be a new God of War, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, etc, down the road. Everyone also knows there will be a new Halo, Gears of War, Forza, etc, down the road. There are no secrets here and deep down we as gamers already know which side we fall on in that sense.

As much as gamers like to flaunt the raw power of the PS4 as a deal maker/breaker, the multiplatform experience has not been the lopsided as originally expected. My XB1 version of AC4 is running at a lower internal resolution than the PS4 version, but my friends can't tell the two apart when they walk in and watch me play. I mean, they KNOW there is a difference, but it has zero impact on our gameplay experience. If anything, the on screen differences appear to be less than between the X360/PS3. In three years that might change, but today there is no obvious or apparent difference.

I wonder if the PS4 is going to be the global warming of gaming. As in, we know that it has influence over the gaming landscape and years from now it's effects will become more pronounced. That said, in 3 years are we going to be standing around while people make excuses on why it's predicted impact wasn't as obvious as originally expected?

Anyways, in my opinion it will be about the games, then the controller, and then maybe the hardware....with TV being a wildcard. Anyways, the PS4 is a beast, no doubt. It's just not as polarizing as some expected, at least as of December 2013.

I'm hoping for some new IP's. I kinda miss the ol PS1 days, so much variety, the industry seemed willing to try anything, like Spider. Doesn't have to be innovative, just something different. It's great to see KI or SOB reboots but considering how many great titles there has been in the past like Anachronox, it's kinda few and far in between.
 

Anteaus

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I'm hoping for some new IP's. I kinda miss the ol PS1 days, so much variety, the industry seemed willing to try anything, like Spider. Doesn't have to be innovative, just something different. It's great to see KI or SOB reboots but considering how many great titles there has been in the past like Anachronox, it's kinda few and far in between.

You must be looking straight into my metaphorical heart. I really loved Anachronox. Gameplay wise it wasn't anything special...in fact I would even marginally bad...but damn it had a great story and the writing was very funny. We all know about the cash that rehash sequels can make, but I miss all the one off games.
 

zerocool84

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It's all about the games... Exclusive titles, that is. Multi-platform titles aren't discernably different.

With the power difference of the two consoles, there's already a difference, Battlefield 4, Assassin's Creed 4, Call of Duty Ghosts, all run smoother and at a higher resolution than on Xbox, and that's just the first round of games. Games like Assassin's Creed or CoD the higher res won't do anything other than make it prettier but on games like Battlefield 4, the higher resolution can actually help see enemies farther.
 

Golgatha

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PS4 for me. The God of War franchise is enough to persuade me over and JRPGs seem to still favor cross-platform or Sony only releases. After getting an XBox 360 with Kinect for the kids, who now hardly ever play with it, I pretty much have zero interest in the XBox One. Also, it looks boss with a PS2 stacked on it.

 
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Hee,hee, here we go.

PS4. More power, less money, better exclusives, PSN seems to offer more value than Xbox Live (e.g. its free games are actually worth playing).

My understadning was that they are near parity in "power".

And everythign I have done looking at the first year of titles, there are many more exclusives that I would want on the XBone than the PS4.
 

cmdrdredd

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My understadning was that they are near parity in "power".

And everythign I have done looking at the first year of titles, there are many more exclusives that I would want on the XBone than the PS4.

I dont see those games. Besides titanfall I see nothing that stands out right now. Sony has 3 exclusives that caught my eye that will be out before the summer. Infamous, mlb the show, and driveclub.

I haven't found a lot of info on other titles that have placeholder dates.
 

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With the power difference of the two consoles, there's already a difference, Battlefield 4, Assassin's Creed 4, Call of Duty Ghosts, all run smoother and at a higher resolution than on Xbox, and that's just the first round of games. Games like Assassin's Creed or CoD the higher res won't do anything other than make it prettier but on games like Battlefield 4, the higher resolution can actually help see enemies farther.
So, you're saying that if I go over to my friend's house and play any of those games on his Xbox, then I go over to another friend's house and play the same game on his PS4, I will see a significant difference? Nah... Hence, the term I used, discernable.

Let alone, some epiphany that overrides one's preference of exclusive titles? Not hardly.

It's all about the games. Period.
 

purbeast0

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So, you're saying that if I go over to my friend's house and play any of those games on his Xbox, then I go over to another friend's house and play the same game on his PS4, I will see a significant difference? Nah... Hence, the term I used, discernable.

Let alone, some epiphany that overrides one's preference of exclusive titles? Not hardly.

It's all about the games. Period.

And it's not like even if there are differences that you need a slow mo video to see them, that it automatically makes the x1 version any worse of an experience.
 

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I have to imagine that you will trully never see the differences between the two even if there are given horsepower differences.

The only time in which the argument if fueled is when gametrailers does a visual comparison of a game between the systems, and I hardly think any system holds a monopoly on games that look better on it versus the comparison.

Personally, I bought both, because both have exclusive franchises that I enjoy playing. Simple as that.

I will say though that I do think the Playstation Plus membership is cool enough for those that haven't played some of last generations great titles.
 

MajorMullet

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I pre-ordered a PS4 back in June, was going to cancel it but decided to keep it and see how it was. It's a great gaming system, but the problem is there just aren't enough games at the moment. I ended up selling it a few weeks later for a small profit. I'm sure I'll pick one up again eventually, maybe in a year or two once there are more games available. I bought a year of PSN for $20 so I can "buy" the freebies as they become available. By the time I re-buy I should have a nice stockpile of stuff to enjoy

I bought an Xbox One and prefer it just because I can actually use it at the moment. The voice commands and TV integration are awesome and are a great convenience factor. I've also been enjoying the launch lineup more (Forza and Ryse specifically).

But to be honest, as a few others have said in this thread, if you're looking for games there's little reason to own either console at the moment. I think it will be another 6 months to a year before they really get going.
 

Doppel

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My understadning was that they are near parity in "power".

And everythign I have done looking at the first year of titles, there are many more exclusives that I would want on the XBone than the PS4.
The PS4 is appreciably faster, with better hardware, and benchmarks show it produces better frame rates and/or is likely to tolerate higher resolutions.

So, you're saying that if I go over to my friend's house and play any of those games on his Xbox, then I go over to another friend's house and play the same game on his PS4, I will see a significant difference?
Despite what I just said, frankly probably not An exception to this may be near the end of the generation years from now when PS4 is tapped out to its extreme running a PS4 only game.
 

Ravynmagi

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I'm still undecided, but will probably buy a console in the next month.

Xbox One likes...
+ Kinect, facial recognition, voice/motion control
+ TV integration and HDMI passthru
+ Xbox Live sounds like it's better than PSN.
+ More familiar with Xbox since I own an Xbox 360 (and also like Windows 8 tiles).

Xbox One concerns...
- $100 more.
- It's huge and still has an external power brick.
- Games may have lesser graphics quality.
- Can't replace hard drive.

PS4 likes.
+ $100 less
+ More powerful processor, better looking games.
+ Being from Japan, may have more RPGs that I like.
+ User replaceable hard drive.

PS4 concerns.
- Really wish it at least had an HDMI passthru.
- Concerns about PSN quality/performance.
- I don't think I'll like the controller as much.
- Less familiar with PS since my last one was a PS2.


My gamer side wants me to buy a PS4. My media watching side wants me to buy an Xbox One.
 
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