Purging SSA of imigrants

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Amol S.

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And yet when I go out about 30% of the poeple I observe are speaking another language. Most Americans speak English.
So according to you... only Japanaese people watched Roasario+Vampire

Well I watched it too and I am not Japanese. We knew you were a bit Trumpy, but we never knew you were racist as well.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I think they they presume that all immigrants, even those that came via the legal system are illegals as well. In that perspective, 40 million would not be off.
I'm frankly also worried about those holding dual citizenship. My blind GF is a dual because of her father, she gonna get put in a detention center too?
 
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Amol S.

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I bet you don't even know you cannot derive benefits from SSA without contributing into it. I apologize for telling the truth.
There actually is a grain and and I repeat.... GRAIN of truth. You can derive benefits to SSA without providing into it... it's called SSDI (Social Security Disasbility Insurance).
 

nakedfrog

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So according to you... only Japanaese people watched Roasario+Vampire

Well I watched it too and I am not Japanese. We knew you were a bit Trumpy, but we never knew you were racist as well.
Oh, I think a lot of us knew that.
 

MrSquished

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If anybody believes Felix voted for someone other than Trump this last election I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Trump's racism is way too much of an appeal for this fucker. Not to mention all his other backward views but the racism is just too enticing for him to not vote for that
 
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FelixDeCat

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Indus

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If they can obtain a work permit to contribute to our big, beautiful way of life while adding to the SSA pot, sure. But be under no illusion, unless they follow the legal process to become a citizen, the SS payments are made in vain. They should be told that up front.

My parents went through it.. before they could claim social security.. they were asked are they US Citizens.. and had to present proof at the SS Office.

So anyone telling you otherwise is full of shit and scare mongering.

BTW our big beautiful way of life is gonna a bitter taste in your mouth very soon because of Agent Orange telling the rest of the world to fuck off. When they don't invest in America.. there goes our lifestyle!

Just like in the stock market thread.. even we're wondering if we should buy European stocks.. if that's us thinking.. what about them who aren't Americans in the first place and don't have any loyalty to this place.. they just want safe investments.

MAGAtards truly screwed the pooch this time!
 

IronWing

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If they can obtain a work permit to contribute to our big, beautiful way of life while adding to the SSA pot, sure. But be under no illusion, unless they follow the legal process to become a citizen, the SS payments are made in vain. They should be told that up front.
Fuck off, traitor.
 

FelixDeCat

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My parents went through it.. before they could claim social security.. they were asked are they US Citizens.. and had to present proof at the SS Office.

I think they are required to ask everybody. Imaging having that job, getting all that guff from actual citizens. Most people know its just a procedural question, and while most probably just oblige you will have that few percentage that will get all offended, make a scene and act like a 2 year old. I dont know why, but @HomerJS comes to mind.
 
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yottabit

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If they can obtain a work permit to contribute to our big, beautiful way of life while adding to the SSA pot, sure. But be under no illusion, unless they follow the legal process to become a citizen, the SS payments are made in vain. They should be told that up front.
I’m guessing that aside from eliminating fraud, from your abundant concern you must be highly interested in seeing that Social Security gets properly funded?

What are your thoughts on how to reduce the shortfall? Eliminating waste is not enough to make up for the aging population
 

NWRMidnight

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And yet when I go out about 30% of the poeple I observe are speaking another language. Most Americans speak English.
What does that have to do with their citizenship? You might want to spend a little time looking into how many US citizens speak a different language at home, and out in public with their family members. (hint: if you do, you will understand how stupid your comment is).
 
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NWRMidnight

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I can tell you exactly how he found it. His DOGE boys are running queries on databases looking at the raw data and making assumptions that are incorrect. You can't interpret raw data in this type of old, complex environment without looking at the application code to see how it handles that data field. It's the same reason why his 150yo people on the SS database were getting SS payments was false. My IT career was in this type of environment, COBOL applications running on mainframe systems. Data fields change over time and changed to mean something different or are no longer used and it's not worth it to make changes unless it is actually causing a problem.

Another thing to keep in mind is that all these changes the DOGE boys are making are mass changes on critical databases with little or no testing. That's how these DOGE boys roll. We'll see more and more systems break because of their carelessness.
are you claiming they are illegally accessing state data bases that they have no authority to access?
 

mikeymikec

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Expect Musk and Trump to say 2 weeks from now that SS was filled with fraud dead people were collecting benefits.

There's a plus side (for them and their ilk) of such a claim: After denying all benefits to immigrants, in the weeks and months that follow, the list will be increasingly filled with dead people.
 

tcsenter

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They never got Social Security benefits, they just payed into the system.
Brilliant move MAGA.

They can and do (by the droves) qualify for and receive Supplemental Security Income (SSI), which is the source of a lot of confusion. SSI is not paid out against the SSA Trust, as are SSA retirement and SSDI (disability insurance) benefits. SSI comes out of the general fund without any pegging to SSA Trust. They also can get Medicaid, but not Medicare.


PDF Brochure: Supplemental Security Income (SSI) for Non-citizens
 
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pmv

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May 30, 2008
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Please explain?

I took it as Indus suggesting that FDC was judging people as being "non Americans" simply due to speaking languages other than English (or at least that barbarous distortion of the language that Americans call by that name!).

FDC's comment made little sense to begin with. American citizens might speak any number of languages.
 

allisolm

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Pre-determined guilt by association (language spoken)

That's rich coming from someone who says he's proud to be a bigot who hates all Muslims. Predetermined guilt by association (religion followed).
 
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