Putin = da man

[Zebo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S1ZfjZmjgA

I love Russians frankness almost as much as Chinese. Wish we had politicians like this.

Cliffs: Putin essentially tells reporter he'll cut off his dick.

 

[woolfe9999]

That sort of thing is vintage Putin.

May favorite of his:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5147422.ece

"With Russian tanks only 30 miles from Tbilisi on August 12, Mr Sarkozy told Mr Putin that the world would not accept the overthrow of Georgia’s Government. According to Mr Levitte, the Russian seemed unconcerned by international reaction. “I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls,” Mr Putin declared.

Mr Sarkozy thought he had misheard. “Hang him?” — he asked. “Why not?” Mr Putin replied. “The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein.”

Mr Sarkozy, using the familiar tu, tried to reason with him: “Yes but do you want to end up like [President] Bush?” Mr Putin was briefly lost for words, then said: “Ah — you have scored a point there.” "

- wolf

 

[Nemesis 1]

Yep Putin moved up on my list of world leaders when Gave Bush the finger at Olimpics in China , But is still on my bad guy list here is the second time

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011244.php

 

[fallout man]

Putin is a KGB scumbag.

Lots of balls and brawn as long as he's situated comfortably within the disturbingly growing ultra-nationalist Russian sentiment.

KGB trash is KGB trash.

 

[palehorse]

Putin is a KGB scumbag.

Lots of balls and brawn as long as he's situated comfortably within the disturbingly growing ultra-nationalist Russian sentiment.

KGB trash is KGB trash.

this.

 

[Craig234]

Zebo, I have great contempt for people who are attracted to 'atrong men' as leaders to excess, somehow parasitically feeling 'powerful' as members of their group.

This is the same sort of mentality fascism thrives on, the type of crowd a Hitler or a KKK leader can whip up into a frenzy with messages of hate and power.

You know what those people are without the weak followers? Pathetic and powerless. With the crowd, they can do th e evil they do - killing, lynching, warring, with the mob.

You show poor judgement IMO in praising Putin's 'ballsiness' without a word for his evil - the man he appears to have murdered along with other critical journaliists are what matter, not his one liners.

Have some moral character and condemn the man if you MUST praise a murderer for a one liner.

It's just sick, whether it's Putin or these paper tiger right-wing media figures like O'Reilly and Savage.

Your post reminds me of Avacado's post today, where he is unable to understand the bad about Bush, but vicariously gets pleasure from the 'strong man' posturing of taking Saddam's pistol.

Such citizens are the ingredient of totalitarianism.

 

[Zebo]

Putin murdered? Come on, you don't really believe that crap, usually output by oligarchs- Putin is most responsible for Russians getting largely egalitarian after olgarhcs took over in Yeltisns reign- yes the west hates him but his people love him.

 

[Colt45]

America wants a shitty, weak, leader like Yeltsin. Good for foreign interests.

Russia needs a strong ruler, one that isn't afraid to tell the west to sit and spin. It's better for all the countries stuck in between too, IMO.

 

[Colt45]

rofl :awe:

 

[Nemesis 1]

Zebo, I have great contempt for people who are attracted to 'atrong men' as leaders to excess, somehow parasitically feeling 'powerful' as members of their group.

This is the same sort of mentality fascism thrives on, the type of crowd a Hitler or a KKK leader can whip up into a frenzy with messages of hate and power.

You know what those people are without the weak followers? Pathetic and powerless. With the crowd, they can do th e evil they do - killing, lynching, warring, with the mob.

You show poor judgement IMO in praising Putin's 'ballsiness' without a word for his evil - the man he appears to have murdered along with other critical journaliists are what matter, not his one liners.

Have some moral character and condemn the man if you MUST praise a murderer for a one liner.

It's just sick, whether it's Putin or these paper tiger right-wing media figures like O'Reilly and Savage.

Your post reminds me of Avacado's post today, where he is unable to understand the bad about Bush, but vicariously gets pleasure from the 'strong man' posturing of taking Saddam's pistol.

Such citizens are the ingredient of totalitarianism.

Yes I agree Like Bush Obama and others we can go on and on.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Zebo, I have great contempt for people who are attracted to 'atrong men' as leaders to excess, somehow parasitically feeling 'powerful' as members of their group.

This is the same sort of mentality fascism thrives on, the type of crowd a Hitler or a KKK leader can whip up into a frenzy with messages of hate and power.

You know what those people are without the weak followers? Pathetic and powerless. With the crowd, they can do th e evil they do - killing, lynching, warring, with the mob.

You show poor judgement IMO in praising Putin's 'ballsiness' without a word for his evil - the man he appears to have murdered along with other critical journaliists are what matter, not his one liners.

Have some moral character and condemn the man if you MUST praise a murderer for a one liner.

It's just sick, whether it's Putin or these paper tiger right-wing media figures like O'Reilly and Savage.

Your post reminds me of Avacado's post today, where he is unable to understand the bad about Bush, but vicariously gets pleasure from the 'strong man' posturing of taking Saddam's pistol.

Such citizens are the ingredient of totalitarianism.

Yes I agree Like Bush Obama and others we can go on and on.

But out all of these There are good ones also in that they also wore Tin foiled hats. Like JFK who warned us against secret societies bent on taking control as I can go back in topics here and show you what Peeps had to say about conspirecy theories, I am sure you seen JFK video on just suck conspirecies. Oh My, One of are great leaders wore tinfoiled Hat . Oh I can name many more leaders who gave same warnings . all wearing Tin foiled hats

 

[StageLeft]

I think Putin is a thug and really defines the word to the letter.

That he is free or willing to say things other leaders would not reflects to some positive degree on him or a portion of his political system but on the other hand perhaps reflects badly on that system; i.e. he can say whatever he wants and get away with it because he owns the country.

 

[Muse]

Putin is a KGB scumbag.

Lots of balls and brawn as long as he's situated comfortably within the disturbingly growing ultra-nationalist Russian sentiment.

KGB trash is KGB trash.

Hey, he could be far worse. He's not inflammatory. He's not Kruschev banging on a table at the U.N. with his shoe! He's the most level headed, maybe smartest Russian leader in my memory. That's what he appears to be. In terms of civil rights he doesn't seem to be regarded as a champion, however, far from it!

In the wake of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, in a country that had an upheaval of a revolution just 100 years ago (not a breakaway from a controlling outside nation, like the US's revolution, but an internal revolution), they need a stable leader and Putin's that man, like it or lump it. US/Russian relations are far better than what was going on 50 years ago. At least they aren't at each other's throats threatening nuclear Armageddon. There's infinitely more cooperation and cultural exchange. International politics has evolved considerably. Used to be a handful of powers called the shots, or so it seemed. Now, the Age of Terrorism, declared a couple of decades ago, has ripened considerably. Russia has had its hands full and the US, formerly complacent in our sense of invulnerability is fraught with anxiety, wondering when and from where the next attack from an invisible foe will come.

 

[kage69]

I wouldn't go so far as to call him "Da Man," but I respect anyone who can handle themselves on the mat like he can. He doesn't let corporate fatcats dictate policy to him, and has a head on his shoulders - more than I can say about certain other heads of state.

 

[JSFLY]

Putin is a KGB scumbag.

Lots of balls and brawn as long as he's situated comfortably within the disturbingly growing ultra-nationalist Russian sentiment.

KGB trash is KGB trash.

Still better than Bush

 

[palehorse]

Still better than Bush

Actually, not so much... after all, like most Presidents before him, Bush had the decency to leave politics when he was done with his reign of misguided power. Putin, on the other hand, refuses to let go -- democracy be damned!

Putin is communist KGB scum.

 

[Muse]

Actually, not so much... after all, like most Presidents before him, Bush had the decency to leave politics when he was done with his reign of misguided power. Putin, on the other hand, refuses to let go -- democracy be damned!

Putin is communist KGB scum.

Man, cool it with the invective. You are just making yourself out to be an idiot.

Bush was lucky to get on his helicopter out of DC with any dignity intact. Plenty waving him off were going "good riddance!"

 

[palehorse]

Man, cool it with the invective. You are just making yourself out to be an idiot.

Bush was lucky to get on his helicopter out of DC with any dignity intact. Plenty waving him off were going "good riddance!"

Any who actually think Putin is better than Bush -- or any other Us president -- are the only idiots here...

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Any who actually think Putin is better than Bush -- or any other Us president -- are the only idiots here...

True. Putin, after serving his terms, basically subverted their constitution to retain power. It would be the same as Bush appointing his successor, and having his successor ask Bush what he wants to do with every decision.

 

[Craig234]

Man, cool it with the invective. You are just making yourself out to be an idiot.

Bush was lucky to get on his helicopter out of DC with any dignity intact. Plenty waving him off were going "good riddance!"

In a rare chance to defend Palehorse, why are you attacking him? You critcized Bush's presidency and so did Palehorse. Is "KGB scum" really so excessive to need protest for someone believed to have done so much evil, such as a long string of critcical journalists he's believed to have killed? He may have some good thigns about him too, but hey, OJ did too, it doesn't make him innocent of murder.

If Palehorse had said what a great president Bush was, attack that - but he did not say that. Isn't 'invective' justified for someone accused of what Putin is?

 

[Jaskalas]

Putin murdered? Come on, you don't really believe that crap, usually output by oligarchs- Putin is most responsible for Russians getting largely egalitarian after olgarhcs took over in Yeltisns reign- yes the west hates him but his people love him.

His people love him so much that journalists seem to fall over dead with glee.

You sure you know what you're doing cheering him on?

 

[wwswimming]

KGB trash is KGB trash.

how is that different from CIA Trash, Mossad Trash, or MI6 Trash, other than the peer pressure that you're supposed to "root for the home team" - no matter how dishonest or immoral ?

 

[fskimospy]

Putin murdered? Come on, you don't really believe that crap, usually output by oligarchs- Putin is most responsible for Russians getting largely egalitarian after olgarhcs took over in Yeltisns reign- yes the west hates him but his people love him.

People and journalists who criticize Putin have a disturbing tendency to be shot to death, to be poisoned by rare radiation, etc... etc. Putin is not the man, he is a scumbag. Russians love Putin because they love authoritarianism, and he represents it quite well.

 

[palehorse]

how is that different from CIA Trash, Mossad Trash, or MI6 Trash, other than the peer pressure that you're supposed to "root for the home team" - no matter how dishonest or immoral ?

Do you, as a US citizen (if you are one), live in fear of the CIA? Have you ever?

Equating the CIA with the KGB is amateur.

 

[Craig234]

Do you, as a US citizen (if you are one), live in fear of the CIA? Have you ever?

Equating the CIA with the KGB is amateur.

When you look outside the borders, the CIA has done enough bad things for that to be a fair comparison.
I haven't compared numbers bu tthe CIA might have done more harm.

Domestically, of course it's a very different story comparins what the Soviets did to the Soviet people, and the US situation (which of course is more about the FBI than the CIA historically).

But while we deserve a big pat on the back for that, don't pretend the record is spotless.

Activitists have been murdered by the government. Need I mention things like Tuskagee? Cointelpro? King?