Puzzling Ancient Artifacts

[Martin]

Like the dinosaurs, these were put there by god to test our faith!

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: OrByte
Time travel is an awesome thing~!

Isn't it though. I have a note encased in leaded glass I'm giving my descendent's telling them to leave a mark at these spots in their time travels.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Meuge
Last time I checked, peer-reviewed scientific journals != media

That is because you only believe what you read in scientific journals. Of course they would never tell you that they are part of the media in there!

Why don't you do some actual indepenant research on the subjects rather than waiting for someone to tell you what to think.

 

[abj13]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
That is because you only believe what you read in scientific journals. Of course they would never tell you that they are part of the media in there!

Why don't you do some actual indepenant research on the subjects rather than waiting for someone to tell you what to think.

Okay, here's the most recent issue of Genetics and its table of contents:

PERSPECTIVES:

Mohamed A. F. Noor and Norman A. Johnson
A Kingpin of Academic Inclusive Fitness: The History and Contributions of Bruce Grant
Genetics 2005 171: 867-871. [Full Text] [PDF]

INVESTIGATIONS:

Humberto Sanchez, Dawit Kidane, Patricia Reed, Fiona A. Curtis, M. Castillo Cozar, Peter L. Graumann, Gary J. Sharples, and Juan C. Alonso
The RuvAB Branch Migration Translocase and RecU Holliday Junction Resolvase Are Required for Double-Stranded DNA Break Repair in Bacillus subtilis
Genetics 2005 171: 873-883; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045906. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Judith A. Sharp, Gizem Rizki, and Paul D. Kaufman
Regulation of Histone Deposition Proteins Asf1/Hir1 by Multiple DNA Damage Checkpoint Kinases in Saccharomyces cerevisiae
Genetics 2005 171: 885-899; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.044719. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Christine M. McDonald, Katrina F. Cooper, and Edward Winter
The Ama1-Directed Anaphase-Promoting Complex Regulates the Smk1 Mitogen-Activated Protein Kinase During Meiosis in Yeast
Genetics 2005 171: 901-911; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045567. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Nithya Jambunathan, Adam W. Martinez, Elizabeth C. Robert, Nneamaka B. Agochukwu, Megan E. Ibos, Sandra L. Dugas, and David Donze
Multiple Bromodomain Genes Are Involved in Restricting the Spread of Heterochromatic Silencing at the Saccharomyces cerevisiae HMR-tRNA Boundary
Genetics 2005 171: 913-922; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.046938. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Eric W. Refsland and Dennis M. Livingston
Interactions Among DNA Ligase I, the Flap Endonuclease and Proliferating Cell Nuclear Antigen in the Expansion and Contraction of CAG Repeat Tracts in Yeast
Genetics 2005 171: 923-934; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.043448. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Kenneth D. Belanger, Amitabha Gupta, Kristy M. MacDonald, Christina M. Ott, Christine A. Hodge, Charles M. Cole, and Laura I. Davis
Nuclear Pore Complex Function in Saccharomyces cerevisiae Is Influenced by Glycosylation of the Transmembrane Nucleoporin Pom152p
Genetics 2005 171: 935-947; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.036319. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Timothy P. Ellis, Melissa S. Schonauer, and Carol L. Dieckmann
CBT1 Interacts Genetically With CBP1 and the Mitochondrially Encoded Cytochrome b Gene and Is Required to Stabilize the Mature Cytochrome b mRNA of Saccharomyces cerevisiae
Genetics 2005 171: 949-957; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.036467. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Elena Milgrom, Robert W. West, Jr., Chen Gao, and W.-C. Winston Shen
TFIID and Spt-Ada-Gcn5-Acetyltransferase Functions Probed by Genome-wide Synthetic Genetic Array Analysis Using a Saccharomyces cerevisiae taf9-ts Allele
Genetics 2005 171: 959-973; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.046557. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Kirsten Nielsen, Robert E. Marra, Ferry Hagen, Teun Boekhout, Thomas G. Mitchell, Gary M. Cox, and Joseph Heitman
Interaction Between Genetic Background and the Mating-Type Locus in Cryptococcus neoformans Virulence Potential
Genetics 2005 171: 975-983; Published ahead of print on June 18, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045039. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

L. R. Gale, J. D. Bryant, S. Calvo, H. Giese, T. Katan, K. O'Donnell, H. Suga, M. Taga, T. R. Usgaard, T. J. Ward, and H. C. Kistler
Chromosome Complement of the Fungal Plant Pathogen Fusarium graminearum Based on Genetic and Physical Mapping and Cytological Observations
Genetics 2005 171: 985-1001; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.044842. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Joel Fernandes Lima, Iran Malavazi, Marcia Regina von Zeska Kress Fagundes, Marcela Savoldi, Maria Helena S. Goldman, Elke Schwier, Gerhard H. Braus, and Gustavo Henrique Goldman
The csnD/csnE Signalosome Genes Are Involved in the Aspergillus nidulans DNA Damage Response
Genetics 2005 171: 1003-1015; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.041376. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Ewa M. Davison, Melissa M. Harrison, Albertha J. M. Walhout, Marc Vidal, and H. Robert Horvitz
lin-8, Which Antagonizes Caenorhabditis elegans Ras-Mediated Vulval Induction, Encodes a Novel Nuclear Protein That Interacts With the LIN-35 Rb Protein
Genetics 2005 171: 1017-1031; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.034173. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Maria J. Gravato-Nobre, Hannah R. Nicholas, Reindert Nijland, Delia O'Rourke, Deborah E. Whittington, Karen J. Yook, and Jonathan Hodgkin
Multiple Genes Affect Sensitivity of Caenorhabditis elegans to the Bacterial Pathogen Microbacterium nematophilum
Genetics 2005 171: 1033-1045; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045716. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Marc Hammarlund, M. Wayne Davis, Hung Nguyen, Dustin Dayton, and Erik M. Jorgensen
Heterozygous Insertions Alter Crossover Distribution but Allow Crossover Interference in Caenorhabditis elegans
Genetics 2005 171: 1047-1056; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.044834. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Renee D. Read, Paul J. Goodfellow, Elaine R. Mardis, Nancy Novak, Jon R. Armstrong, and Ross L. Cagan
A Drosophila Model of Multiple Endocrine Neoplasia Type 2
Genetics 2005 171: 1057-1081; Published ahead of print on June 18, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.038018. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Bradley J. Wagstaff and David J. Begun
Molecular Population Genetics of Accessory Gland Protein Genes and Testis-Expressed Genes in Drosophila mojavensis and D. arizonae
Genetics 2005 171: 1083-1101; Published ahead of print on August 5, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.043372. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Keith A. Maggert and Kent G. Golic
Highly Efficient Sex Chromosome Interchanges Produced By I-CreI Expression in Drosophila
Genetics 2005 171: 1103-1114; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.040071. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Francis M. Jiggins and Matthew C. Tinsley
An Ancient Mitochondrial Polymorphism in Adalis bipunctata Linked to a Sex-Ratio-Distorting Bacterium
Genetics 2005 171: 1115-1124; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.046342. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Amy L. Adamson, Natasha Wright, and Dennis R. LaJeunesse
Modeling Early Epstein-Barr Virus Infection in Drosophila melanogaster: The BZLF1 Protein
Genetics 2005 171: 1125-1135; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.042572. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Dominik Müller, Sabrina J. Kugler, Anette Preiss, Dieter Maier, and Anja C. Nagel
Genetic Modifier Screens on Hairless Gain-of-Function Phenotypes Reveal Genes Involved in Cell Differentiation, Cell Growth and Apoptosis in Drosophila melanogaster
Genetics 2005 171: 1137-1152; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.044453. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Yusuke Takahashi and Shozo Yokoyama
Genetic Basis of Spectral Tuning in the Violet-Sensitive Visual Pigment of African Clawed Frog, Xenopus laevis
Genetics 2005 171: 1153-1160; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045849. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

J. J. Smith, D. K. Kump, J. A. Walker, D. M. Parichy, and S. R. Voss
A Comprehensive Expressed Sequence Tag Linkage Map for Tiger Salamander and Mexican Axolotl: Enabling Gene Mapping and Comparative Genomics in Ambystoma
Genetics 2005 171: 1161-1171; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.046433. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

E. M. Heifetz, J. E. Fulton, N. O'Sullivan, H. Zhao, J. C. M. Dekkers, and M. Soller
Extent and Consistency Across Generations of Linkage Disequilibrium in Commercial Layer Chicken Breeding Populations
Genetics 2005 171: 1173-1181; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.040782. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Jennifer F. Hughes and John M. Coffin
Human Endogenous Retroviral Elements as Indicators of Ectopic Recombination Events in the Primate Genome
Genetics 2005 171: 1183-1194; Published ahead of print on September 12, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.043976. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Haja N. Kadarmideen and Luc L. G. Janss
Evidence of a Major Gene From Bayesian Segregation Analyses of Liability to Osteochondral Diseases in Pigs
Genetics 2005 171: 1195-1206; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.040956. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Sabine Wiedemann, Ruedi Fries, and Georg Thaller
Genomewide Scan for Anal Atresia in Swine Identifies Linkage and Association With a Chromosome Region on Sus scrofa Chromosome 1
Genetics 2005 171: 1207-1217; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.032805. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Matthew A. Saunders, Montgomery Slatkin, Chad Garner, Michael F. Hammer, and Michael W. Nachman
The Extent of Linkage Disequilibrium Caused by Selection on G6PD in Humans
Genetics 2005 171: 1219-1229; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.048140. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Satoshi Yamashita, Kuniko Wakazono, Tomoko Nomoto, Yoshimi Tsujino, Takashi Kuramoto, and Toshikazu Ushijima
Expression Quantitative Trait Loci Analysis of 13 Genes in the Rat Prostate
Genetics 2005 171: 1231-1238; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.038174. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Yan Jiao, Jian Yan, Yu Zhao, Leah Rae Donahue, Wesley G. Beamer, Xinmin Li, Bruce A. Roe, Mark S. LeDoux, and Weikuan Gu
Carbonic Anhydrase-Related Protein VIII Deficiency Is Associated With a Distinctive Lifelong Gait Disorder in Waddles Mice
Genetics 2005 171: 1239-1246; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.044487. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Martha T. Hamblin, Maria G. Salas Fernandez, Alexandra M. Casa, Sharon E. Mitchell, Andrew H. Paterson, and Stephen Kresovich
Equilibrium Processes Cannot Explain High Levels of Short- and Medium-Range Linkage Disequilibrium in the Domesticated Grass Sorghum bicolor
Genetics 2005 171: 1247-1256; Published ahead of print on September 12, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.041566. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Bala R. Thumma, Maureen F. Nolan, Robert Evans, and Gavin F. Moran
Polymorphisms in Cinnamoyl CoA Reductase (CCR) Are Associated With Variation in Microfibril Angle in Eucalyptus spp.
Genetics 2005 171: 1257-1265; Published ahead of print on August 5, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.042028. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Marnik Vuylsteke, Fred van Eeuwijk, Paul Van Hummelen, Martin Kuiper, and Marc Zabeau
Genetic Analysis of Variation in Gene Expression in Arabidopsis thaliana
Genetics 2005 171: 1267-1275; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.041509. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Fabrice Roux, Christine Camilleri, Sandra Giancola, Dominique Brunel, and Xavier Reboud
Epistatic Interactions Among Herbicide Resistances in Arabidopsis thaliana: The Fitness Cost of Multiresistance
Genetics 2005 171: 1277-1288; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.043224. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Amy Bouck, Ryan Peeler, Michael L. Arnold, and Susan R. Wessler
Genetic Mapping of Species Boundaries in Louisiana Irises Using IRRE Retrotransposon Display Markers
Genetics 2005 171: 1289-1303; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.044552. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Werner Howad, Toshiya Yamamoto, Elisabeth Dirlewanger, Raffaele Testolin, Patrick Cosson, Guido Cipriani, Antonio J. Monforte, Laura Georgi, Albert G. Abbott, and Pere Arús
Mapping With a Few Plants: Using Selective Mapping for Microsatellite Saturation of the Prunus Reference Map
Genetics 2005 171: 1305-1309; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.043661. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

M. Lstiburek, T. J. Mullin, T. F. C. Mackay, D. Huber, and B. Li
Positive Assortative Mating With Family Size as a Function of Predicted Parental Breeding Values
Genetics 2005 171: 1311-1320; Published ahead of print on June 18, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.041723. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Michael T. Schouten, Christopher K. I. Williams, and Chris S. Haley
The Impact of Using Related Individuals for Haplotype Reconstruction in Population Studies
Genetics 2005 171: 1321-1330; Published ahead of print on June 8, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.042762. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

R. B. O'Hara and J. Merilä
Bias and Precision in QST Estimates: Problems and Some Solutions
Genetics 2005 171: 1331-1339; Published ahead of print on August 5, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.044545. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF] [Data Supplement]

Johan D. Peleman, Crispin Wye, Jan Zethof, Anker P. Sørensen, Henk Verbakel, Jan van Oeveren, Tom Gerats, and Jeroen Rouppe van der Voort
Quantitative Trait Locus (QTL) Isogenic Recombinant Analysis: A Method for High-Resolution Mapping of QTL Within a Single Population
Genetics 2005 171: 1341-1352; Published ahead of print on August 5, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045963. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Judith R. Miller and David Hawthorne
Durability of Marker-Quantitative Trait Loci Haplotypes in Structured Populations
Genetics 2005 171: 1353-1364; Published ahead of print on October 6, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.035071. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Stuart Macgregor, Sara A. Knott, Ian White, and Peter M. Visscher
Quantitative Trait Locus Analysis of Longitudinal Quantitative Trait Data in Complex Pedigrees
Genetics 2005 171: 1365-1376; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.043828. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Yuseob Kim and H. Allen Orr
Adaptation in Sexuals vs. Asexuals: Clonal Interference and the Fisher-Muller Model
Genetics 2005 171: 1377-1386; Published ahead of print on July 14, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045252. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Atsushi Yamauchi
Rate of Gene Transfer From Mitochondria to Nucleus: Effects of Cytoplasmic Inheritance System and Intensity of Intracellular Competition
Genetics 2005 171: 1387-1396; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.036350. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Daniel M. Weinreich
The Rank Ordering of Genotypic Fitness Values Predicts Genetic Constraint on Natural Selection on Landscapes Lacking Sign Epistasis
Genetics 2005 171: 1397-1405; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.036830. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Michael C. Whitlock and Richard Gomulkiewicz
Probability of Fixation in a Heterogeneous Environment
Genetics 2005 171: 1407-1417; Published ahead of print on August 22, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.040089. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

Scotland C. Leman, Yuguo Chen, Jason E. Stajich, Mohamed A. F. Noor, and Marcy K. Uyenoyama
Likelihoods From Summary Statistics: Recent Divergence Between Species
Genetics 2005 171: 1419-1436; Published ahead of print on September 2, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.104.040402. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

LETTERS TO THE EDITOR:

Tetsuro Nomura
Effective Population Size Under Random Mating With a Finite Number of Matings
Genetics 2005 171: 1441-1442. [Full Text] [PDF]

NOTES:

Rudi Alberts, Peter Terpstra, Leonid V. Bystrykh, Gerald de Haan, and Ritsert C. Jansen
A Statistical Multiprobe Model for Analyzing cis and trans Genes in Genetical Genomics Experiments With Short-Oligonucleotide Arrays
Genetics 2005 171: 1437-1439; Published ahead of print on August 3, 2005 as doi:10.1534/genetics.105.045930. [Abstract] [Full Text] [PDF]

CORRIGENDUM:

W. Mills and T. Moore
CORRIGENDUM
Genetics 2005 171: 1443. [Full Text] [PDF]

http://www.genetics.org/current.shtml

So tell me, which of the ~100 authors in the current issue is part of the "media," and who are the people that are actually doing the research?

I highly doubt you've actually looked at a scientific peer-reviewed journal. Sorry, Popular Science doesn't count.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Meuge
Last time I checked, peer-reviewed scientific journals != media

That is because you only believe what you read in scientific journals. Of course they would never tell you that they are part of the media in there!

Why don't you do some actual indepenant research on the subjects rather than waiting for someone to tell you what to think.

These journals are called "peer reviewed", because they're reviewed by the scientists who write the articles. If that is still not clear to you, you may want to... you know... repeat the 5th grade.

 

[IdaGno]

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

 

[M00T]

I love the flawed logic behind so many arguments by you chrisitans. Stop being so afraid to admit science is more important than your little bible.

Have any of you thought about how your religion has evolved to survive the times? Old Testament > New testament... creationism > creation science > intelligent design.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Meuge
Last time I checked, peer-reviewed scientific journals != media

That is because you only believe what you read in scientific journals. Of course they would never tell you that they are part of the media in there!

Why don't you do some actual indepenant research on the subjects rather than waiting for someone to tell you what to think.

These journals are called "peer reviewed", because they're reviewed by the scientists who write the articles. If that is still not clear to you, you may want to... you know... repeat the 5th grade.

Who publishes those articles? Who decides what is in this month's (or week's) issue? Who? Are these articles 100 pages long so that every scientist who wants to comment can do so? Obviously not. Who decides to gets to comment? Think about it. Your scientific journals are just as hand picked as the nightly news.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: M00T
I love the flawed logic behind so many arguments by you chrisitans. Stop being so afraid to admit science is more important than your little bible.

Have any of you thought about how your religion has evolved to survive the times? Old Testament > New testament... creationism > creation science > intelligent design.

Why are you turning this into a religious debate? Let me take what you said and use it against you...

I love the flawed logic behind so many arguments by you so called 'scientists'. Stop being so afraid to admit that there are things you cannot explain.

Have any of you thought about how your religion has evolved to survive the times? Think gravity, think astronomy, think biology...


What I posted were unexplained events that I hoped would raise some intelligent discussions about what may be the case. Instead I get whacos who have nothing better to do than spout off mindless drivel about they are right and everyone else is wrong.
(yet I expected as much...)

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: XZeroII
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa011402a.htm

Exerpt:

Impossible Fossils
Fossils, as we learned in grade school, appear in rocks that were formed many thousands of years ago. Yet there are a number of fossils that just don't make geological or historical sense. A fossil of a human handprint, for example, was found in limestone estimated to be 110 million years old. What appears to be a fossilized human finger found in the Canadian Arctic also dates back 100 to 110 million years ago. And what appears to be the fossil of a human footprint, possibly wearing a sandal, was found near Delta, Utah in a shale deposit estimated to be 300 million to 600 million years old.


How reliable are our current dating techniques if we are finding human fingers that are 100 million years old?

I saw that fossil. It may very well be a dinosaur footprint, not a hand.

thats what i was thinking. And the whole champion sparkplug thing proves that stuff like that is just BS.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: XZeroII
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa011402a.htm

Exerpt:

Impossible Fossils
Fossils, as we learned in grade school, appear in rocks that were formed many thousands of years ago. Yet there are a number of fossils that just don't make geological or historical sense. A fossil of a human handprint, for example, was found in limestone estimated to be 110 million years old. What appears to be a fossilized human finger found in the Canadian Arctic also dates back 100 to 110 million years ago. And what appears to be the fossil of a human footprint, possibly wearing a sandal, was found near Delta, Utah in a shale deposit estimated to be 300 million to 600 million years old.


How reliable are our current dating techniques if we are finding human fingers that are 100 million years old?

I saw that fossil. It may very well be a dinosaur footprint, not a hand.

thats what i was thinking. And the whole champion sparkplug thing proves that stuff like that is just BS.

I have some ocean-front property in Arizona for you. I'll show you pics anytime you want. I'll sell it to you for a real bargain.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Martin
Like the dinosaurs, these were put there by god to test our faith!

Maybe you were put here to test my faith.

/Bill Hicks

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ScoobMaster
1. The grooved spheres:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/spheres.html

The Dropa Stones

http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa032601a.htm

The Ica Stones

http://skepdic.com/icastones.html

The Antikythera Mechanism

http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~tony/whatsnew/column/antikytheraI-0400/kyth1.html

The Bagdhad Battery

http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html

The Coso Artifact

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/coso.html

Ancient Aircraft

http://www.skepdic.com/vondanik.html

Stone Balls

http://www.ukans.edu/~hoopes/balls/

Impossible Fossils

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/meister.html

/thread



Weekly World News as a "source" :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Who publishes those articles? Who decides what is in this month's (or week's) issue? Who? Are these articles 100 pages long so that every scientist who wants to comment can do so? Obviously not. Who decides to gets to comment? Think about it. Your scientific journals are just as hand picked as the nightly news.

Sorry, this made me laugh.

 

[slash196]

Dear lord, what has humanity come to?

If anyone actually takes this seriously, they need to SERIOUSLY re-examine their brains.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Thanks for the laugh!!!!

 

[halik]

next up ... the Modonna cracker from ebay. Is it a sign from god or a work of extraterrestrials?

That article sounds like a TV show on fox that runs between two episodes of Cops...

 

[saahmed]

We'll wait and see what comes of this. Probably BS or just some sort of error in measurements.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: saahmed
We'll wait and see what comes of this. Probably BS or just some sort of error in measurements.

There's no "wait and see" about it. Didn't you see this posted above:

Originally posted by: ScoobMaster
1. The grooved spheres:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/spheres.html

The Dropa Stones

http://ufos.about.com/library/weekly/aa032601a.htm

The Ica Stones

http://skepdic.com/icastones.html

The Antikythera Mechanism

http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~tony/whatsnew/column/antikytheraI-0400/kyth1.html

The Bagdhad Battery

http://www.smith.edu/hsc/museum/ancient_inventions/battery2.html

The Coso Artifact

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/coso.html

Ancient Aircraft

http://www.skepdic.com/vondanik.html

Stone Balls

http://www.ukans.edu/~hoopes/balls/

Impossible Fossils

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy/meister.html

 

[M00T]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: M00T
I love the flawed logic behind so many arguments by you chrisitans. Stop being so afraid to admit science is more important than your little bible.

Have any of you thought about how your religion has evolved to survive the times? Old Testament > New testament... creationism > creation science > intelligent design.

Why are you turning this into a religious debate? Let me take what you said and use it against you...

I love the flawed logic behind so many arguments by you so called 'scientists'. Stop being so afraid to admit that there are things you cannot explain.

Have any of you thought about how your religion has evolved to survive the times? Think gravity, think astronomy, think biology...


What I posted were unexplained events that I hoped would raise some intelligent discussions about what may be the case. Instead I get whacos who have nothing better to do than spout off mindless drivel about they are right and everyone else is wrong.
(yet I expected as much...)

I'm sorry but you are being absurd. You aren't looking for intelligent discussion. This IS a religious debate because you are spouting of the same BS advertised by every anti-evolutionist(aka creationist).

Your little "gravity, astronomy, biology" example is ignorant. You have no eduation in those scientific fields do you? Go jump off the roof of a building and tell me how little you believe in gravity. Have you read a biology textbook? Have you heard the quote "without the light of evolution, nothing in biology makes sense" ?

The intelligent design movement is using impressionable young minds like yours to contest the fabric of science. Do some research on the movement, and you'll see exactly where all these ignorant ideas of yours are coming from.

Trying to question a peer reviewed scientific paper? Come on... are you really that dumb? Don't be the prime example of the education system's failure or a sheep for the religious fundamentalists.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Let's Google for 'grooved spheres' and point out all the non-conspiracy-, non-tabloid sites we find that way.

Oh wait, there aren't any!

All we do find is people pointing out that it looks remarkably similar to cricket balls, while cricket is a sport which is indeed played in SA.

BBC does not have anything on them on their site, and about the 'Ica stones' they have the remark that a few were found, and that a scientist has shown live how easy it is to reproduce an exact copy of them.

 

[1EZduzit]

My favorite is spontaneous human combustion.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Meuge
Last time I checked, peer-reviewed scientific journals != media

That is because you only believe what you read in scientific journals. Of course they would never tell you that they are part of the media in there!

Why don't you do some actual indepenant research on the subjects rather than waiting for someone to tell you what to think.

I like how your independent media is tabloids and rantings by idiots. Because nothing says professional like a scientific article that followed by a Batboy update.

more garbage by XZeroIIWho publishes those articles? Who decides what is in this month's (or week's) issue? Who? Are these articles 100 pages long so that every scientist who wants to comment can do so? Obviously not. Who decides to gets to comment? Think about it. Your scientific journals are just as hand picked as the nightly news.

There are these people called "editors". What they do is decide what articles go into magazines, and how long the articles should be. The articles are created by "writers", they are the ones who were involved in "research". They get proof from other scientists who have also done the same experiments. Then, other scientists see their proof, and if they feel that it isn't sufficient, they can attempt to do the same on their own. If they find that its false, they can publish an article proving it.

But, go on and believe that you know the truth and everyone else is merely sheep for believing the truth. As you know the chemtrails are real, as you read about them on a random Geocities site.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain
There are these people called "editors". What they do is decide what articles go into magazines, and how long the articles should be. The articles are created by "writers", they are the ones who were involved in "research". They get proof from other scientists who have also done the same experiments. Then, other scientists see their proof, and if they feel that it isn't sufficient, they can attempt to do the same on their own. If they find that its false, they can publish an article proving it.

It should also be mentioned that there are multiple "editors", who are all prominent scientists in the field. There are no "civilian" editors on the boards of science journals. The articles are reviewed by scientists within the same field, after which they are submitted to the journal's editors.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: CitizenKain
There are these people called "editors". What they do is decide what articles go into magazines, and how long the articles should be. The articles are created by "writers", they are the ones who were involved in "research". They get proof from other scientists who have also done the same experiments. Then, other scientists see their proof, and if they feel that it isn't sufficient, they can attempt to do the same on their own. If they find that its false, they can publish an article proving it.

It should also be mentioned that there are multiple "editors", who are all prominent scientists in the field. There are no "civilian" editors on the boards of science journals. The articles are reviewed by scientists within the same field, after which they are submitted to the journal's editors.

What he said. Also the reviewing scientists are not involved with the experiments although they are from similar fields of expertise. That is why the process is called 'peer review'.