Q6600 temps

[Jjoshua2]

My idle is 54 on three cores and 59 on one core apparently with rightmark cpu utility. Bios showed 39 degrees when I first booted up my computer. Load it gets up to 77 when I run orthos of the two cpus that are tested.

I have p5b-e and a si-120 heatsink. I had first but the goop in a line. Since it was high (can't remember exactly but load over seventy and bios showed over 40 at first boot) I took the hs off and spread out the goop with a plastic over my finger. Now I have these present temps stated at top. Is this unreasonable?

My voltage is 1.25 under load and 1.3 not. It is at 3.04 ghz

 

[ksource]

damn I thought my temps were high. I think that is WAY TO HIGH..someone correct me if I'm wrong. You voltage doesn't look too high either and the OC seems to be pretty conservative. I think you need to reapply or check something.

I had like 37-40 idle and 57 load and I thought that was too high. jebuz...I think thats too high hahaha. PS I'm running 3.0ghz at 1.325 volt.

 

[Jjoshua2]

Maybe you have a better hs? I think its weird that the bios seems to be showing such a lower temp. I reset my computer and it showed 42C. My cores are idling at 55C in Windows now 0% usage. I already tried reapplying once. I do just have a low rpm yate loon fan. Do you think getting a tuniq tower or something would fix all my problems? I want to maintain a quiet environment. Maybe I should lap my si-120 and ihs thing.

 

[ksource]

Well I'm quite the newb myself but yes it might be, I'm not totally familiar with heatsinks so I'm not so sure how good yours is. I myself use the thermalright ultra 120 extreme that is somewhat lapped...so yea it could be that.

From what other people have said, the bios is known to be quite off, but it could also be the software. I would try a few programs just to get an average of what it is at.

I guess other factors like ambient and case fans and such would play a bigger role as well as your heatsink fan. I use one that is loud as hell but is supposed to push upwards of 110 cfm.

I think you need to just get something that moves more air and lap it first, just the heatsink first. Then you might want to try a tuniq or a thermalright and lap that as well.

Also make sure that your case is setup for good air flow.


ps: I am a newb again, but I'm just throwing what I've read since no one else is putting in feedback.

 

[bluxa]

Yeah I think your temps are a little high. i have a Q6600 running @ 3GHz in ambients of 35c + and my idle temps are lower than yours (44-49c idle depending on ambient - max 65c running orthos on all 4 cores). like Ksource I've got a Thermalright ultra 120 extreme with a s-flex fan. It could also be the way you applied the thermal grease - I've read for example that with AS5 you apply it it slightly differently on a quad core than on a dual core. I also read that the a good way to measure temps is CoreTemp. I use both that and RM clock as you are using - I found that the Asus software shows temps about 10c lower, just like speedfan does.

Also what are your ambient temps? that can have a big bearing too. I know I can see a big difference in all my temps when the ambient temps drop to 32c, and thats still pretty high.

Also are you using a fan on the SI-120? If you are trying to cool passively without a fan thats probably the reason for the high temps.

You may want to google for temps with your heatsink and try and see what other people get. It also has bearing if its B3 or G0 revision.

Like Ksource I'm a newb too, but again this is what i read.

 

[myocardia]

You're running your Q6600 way too fast, to be using the stock heatsink. Buy a better heatsink, and you'll have no problems running it at 3 Ghz, maybe higher.

 

[bluxa]

He said his heatsink is a SI-120 not the stock heatsink, I would have thought that he would have got better temps with this than with the stock heatsink, although I heard the design of the SI-120 may not be the best for a quad core. When I was doing research for mine the comments that i got about the SI-120 were that it was good in its day but for a quad something better is needed because of the extra heat.

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: bluxa
He said his heatsink is a SI-120 not the stock heatsink, I would have thought that he would have got better temps with this than with the stock heatsink, although I heard the design of the SI-120 may not be the best for a quad core. When I was doing research for mine the comments that i got about the SI-120 were that it was good in its day but for a quad something better is needed because of the extra heat.

It's a nice design but towers are proving themselves to be best for Quad on air. Keep it simple, stick with Tunic Tower, Ultra 120 Exreme, or a Ninja revB.

Your temps are too high and it's not voltage or overclock. Sounds like you're properly applying heatsink. Suspect poor contact patch, or conclude that your very decent heatsink is not suited for Quad. Lapping is a good next step unless you want to spend more cash. Lastly, airflow through case. Did you increase airflow? I had three 120mm fans on low with my E6600. Had to switch them all to medium (1600rpm).

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: bluxa
Yeah I think your temps are a little high. i have a Q6600 running @ 3GHz in ambients of 35c + and my idle temps are lower than yours (44-49c idle depending on ambient - max 65c running orthos on all 4 cores). like Ksource I've got a Thermalright ultra 120 extreme with a s-flex fan. It could also be the way you applied the thermal grease - I've read for example that with AS5 you apply it it slightly differently on a quad core than on a dual core. I also read that the a good way to measure temps is CoreTemp. I use both that and RM clock as you are using - I found that the Asus software shows temps about 10c lower, just like speedfan does.

Also what are your ambient temps? that can have a big bearing too. I know I can see a big difference in all my temps when the ambient temps drop to 32c, and thats still pretty high.

Also are you using a fan on the SI-120? If you are trying to cool passively without a fan thats probably the reason for the high temps.

You may want to google for temps with your heatsink and try and see what other people get. It also has bearing if its B3 or G0 revision.

Like Ksource I'm a newb too, but again this is what i read.

holy cow you understand that your ambients are like 95F+ correct?

 

[bluxa]

Yes, I do - The computer is in a room with lots of windows, no aircon and soaring summer temps. Yesterday when i woke up the temp in the room was 39c - I live in Tokyo and it had its hottest day on record yesterday. The cpu though is coping well, My fans are maxed but I'm not doing anything heavy duty with the computer while the temps are like this (as i write this the ambient is 37c and the cpu is idling at at 48c - just doing day to day stuff is fine as it doesnt go past 53 - still running at 3GHz). When I did the overclock and ran othos the ambient was about 34c (and that was at night) - the cores never went above 65c and orthos was running on all four cores. When the ambient temps fall even a little I can see the temp difference in the cpu and MoBo. When the temp drops to 25c in Sept (it hasnt droped below 32c since I built the computer) the cpu looks like it will idle in the mid 30s (degrees C). Everything in the room is hot - even the desk is warm to touch.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

idle core temperatures too high. BIOS shows TCase temperature, and this is also too high.

The SI-120 cooler has a thermal resistance around 0.12 C/W, and should be adequate even for mild over-clocking. But it can't compare with the TR-Ultra-120-Extreme, which I believe has a C/W of between 0.095 and 0.10 C/W.

But -- you see -- this shouldn't have a bearing on idle temperature values, so check your heatsink mounting, thermal paste, etc. For a cooler like the SI-120, I've used a Delta 120x38mm Tri-Blade that tops out at 3,700 rpm and a noise-rating in the low 50's at that speed, but you can run it below 2,500 or 2,400 thermally controlled between those speeds and maybe 1,800. It puts a lot of air-pressure on that cooler.

 

[Jjoshua2]

I think my yate loon has an rpm of 1200. I lowered the overclock to 2.88ghz and the voltage to 1.325 in bios, but cpuz shows that it drops to 1.22-1.23 under load. Its still showing80 under load with tat and rightmark cpu. The CPUs idle between 60 and 64. Like I said I took off the heat sink and tried reapplying the thermal paste once and it didn't seem to make much difference. I have c1e and speedstep enabled, which doesn't seem to be helping my idle temps.

Do you think that the temps are normal for a si-120 with 1200rpm fan? Do you think there's a chance the cpu is somewhat defective or giving more heat than normal? I just bought in this Anand FS forum.

So I guess maybe I try lapping it? I think if I can get load under 70 I won't need to get a new heatsink. I have a 120mm fan by the hs and a 120mm fan in the front. The side has an 80mm fan in the side, but right now the side panel isn't on. Could lapping drop it 10C? I used the same setup for an e6600 and e6300 at 1.35 volts at 3.3 ghz and had load around 65 I think.

 

[bluxa]

What are your ambient temps like? That could be contributing. 60-64c idle is pretty hot. which way do you have the fan pointing on the SI-120? is it blowing down towards the motherboard or up towards the case? You could try turning it the other way to see if it makes a difference although I'm not optimistic. you could also try a more powerful fan. I dont profess to be an expert on these things but it sounds like your heatsink is not making good enough contact. I would suggest trying the intel heatsink that came with the q6600 - if your temps go down any then its most likely a problem with the SI-120 as it should in principle be better than the stock heatsink, if they are the same then it may be that si-120 isnt good enough. I read that quad cores do produce a lot more heat than the dual cores so quads should be hotter at the same voltage.

As for the possibility of a defective cpu I'll leave that to the more knowledgeable folk to deal with, but think its most likely a heatsink issue.

Have you also tried googling to see what temps other people are getting with q6600 and si-120 combination? you may also want to a search on here related to vdroop (difference in voltage between your bios setting and actual reading), I think there some good tips on ways to minimise it.

 

[DaPoets]

I had been feeling that my temp on my Q6600 was high as well. I am running at 2.999ghz at 1.2875v ram at 667 at 2.0v. I am very stable at this speed and I am running the stock fan but in my case I do have 3 intake fans, 3 exhaust fans, the Antec Trio 650 as an exhaust fan (it's a big fan too) and then the fan on my ATI Radeon x1950pro 512mb and my processor. I even have a nice little 4inch retro steel fan blowing air from outside of my case into the front of my case where 2 of my intake fans are. My Idol temps are about 57c and to be honest, even w/ out overclocking they are just around that. When playing games like BF2, City of Villians, WoW I get up to 68c - 72c and if I try running Orthos I easily hit 80c - 85c (2 sessions devided between 2 cores each). Like I said I am very stable and unless I'm playing a high graphic game, my normal web browsing, music playing, video watching and MS Office using only gets me as high as about 61c- 62c.

I have taken my HS off and reapplied the paste twice, differently each time, and tonight I think I'm going to actually turn the HS 90 degrees to see if that makes any difference. I haven't lapped anything and I don't think I ever will, at least the q6600. I think my Q6600 is just a hot piece of speed. I actually did have it up to 3.4ghz and it was running nicely but the temps were 71c idol. So I think if I get a good cooling system, like either liquid, TEC, or high end air, I'll be able to run at at least 3.4ghz if not higher.

 

[DaPoets]

Originally posted by: Jjoshua2
I think my yate loon has an rpm of 1200. I lowered the overclock to 2.88ghz and the voltage to 1.325 in bios, but cpuz shows that it drops to 1.22-1.23 under load. Its still showing80 under load with tat and rightmark cpu. The CPUs idle between 60 and 64. Like I said I took off the heat sink and tried reapplying the thermal paste once and it didn't seem to make much difference. I have c1e and speedstep enabled, which doesn't seem to be helping my idle temps.

Do you think that the temps are normal for a si-120 with 1200rpm fan? Do you think there's a chance the cpu is somewhat defective or giving more heat than normal? I just bought in this Anand FS forum.

So I guess maybe I try lapping it? I think if I can get load under 70 I won't need to get a new heatsink. I have a 120mm fan by the hs and a 120mm fan in the front. The side has an 80mm fan in the side, but right now the side panel isn't on. Could lapping drop it 10C? I used the same setup for an e6600 and e6300 at 1.35 volts at 3.3 ghz and had load around 65 I think.

You said your side pannel isn't on... I have one intake and one exhaust (bottom - top) on my side pannel and I find that w/ my side pannel on, the air flow is maximized and I get better temps this way. Poor airflow even w/ the side pannel off can cause higher temps.