Q9650 PREVIEW! Taking Test Requests.

[OLpal]

Why is the load line calibration so important & what makes this board worth $60 more than the P5Q-E

Ol'Pal

Originally posted by: n7
P5Q Deluxe w/ load line calibration enabled: 1.4v set in bios = 1.39v idle & 1.4v load

Get over to the Intel side already man.

I have an nForce chipset.
It's my A8N32-SLI Deluxe :laugh:...back from when they made decent chipsets.

Anyway, all i'd like to see is max P95 stable clocks @ 1.4v on air, as anything more is too high for 45nm IMO anyway.

 

[n7]

Well, it basically prevents vdroop (& vdrop too actually in this case).

Load line off = same kind of vdroop as he's getting

Actually my DFI P35-T2R was better for vdroop being not too bad even when not set to prevent that, but the DFI was also pure garbage for clocking 8 GB stably, hence my dumping it.

To avoid taking this too off topic, i'd just say go to Asus's spec pages for those two mobos & open two pages side by side.
There are a number of differences...whether they are worth $60 only you can decide...

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: n7
Well, it basically prevents vdroop (& vdrop too actually in this case).

Load line off = same kind of vdroop as he's getting

Actually my DFI P35-T2R was better for vdroop being not too bad even when not set to prevent that, but the DFI was also pure garbage for clocking 8 GB stably, hence my dumping it.

To avoid taking this too off topic, i'd just say go to Asus's spec pages for those two mobos & open two pages side by side.
There are a number of differences...whether they are worth $60 only you can decide...

My DFI isnt garbage tho. :T

DFI LT X38

Only problem im having is it and xfire tho.


And no i cant get 450fsb stable.

as i said the vdroop pushes it to 1.32. i know for a fact most yorkies will require from 1.33-1.36Vcore

 

[n7]

Start testing 8 GB DDR2 @ DDR2-1000+ & running HCI Memtest for stability testing...see how much you like your DFI then.


Also, who cares about 450 MHz stable...use your unlocked multi
I assume 4+ GHz is stable on air based on what you posted at XS?

Your 4.25 GHz P95 screenie there isn't on air though

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: n7

Also, who cares about 450 MHz stable...use your unlocked multi
I assume 4+ GHz is stable on air based on what you posted at XS?

Your 4.25 GHz P95 screenie there isn't on air though

???

n7 i think you got my processors messed up lol.


This is my QX and she's stable. She's wcging without errors.
Persephone:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...3/aigomorla/Wprime.jpg

What im testing is freya and its a Q9650.
No unlocked multi on this girl. 9x is about as high it gets.

The retail price per1k is 500ish. I dont remember the exact number.
Freya:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/Capture3.jpg


She wont hold there because i need about .2-.3 more vcore.
This is a guessimate. I need to do a pencil mod tomorrow and then im gonna retry.

Guys: DISCLAMER
I SERIOUSLY DONT RECOMEND PENCIL MODS.
If you dont know what your doing DONT pencil mod. The Vdroop is there for a reason. Im gonna pencil mod to get vcore @ a low voltage. Im not pushing 1.4V so i want a Vcore somewhere around 1.3875

This is why im pencil moding.

(JAG i said it so dont PWN me please)

 

[Gillbot]

keep pushing this thing!

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Gillbot
keep pushing this thing!

she's benching.

why else you think im up so earily talking to you via pms? LOL.

infact WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP SO EARILY looking at h2o parts?

Oh i thought it would be interesting if i threw the lowest voltage required for stock mhz.

So right now im testing that. :T

 

[aigomorla]

I'll use this page for stock results and then move it all up to the OP when done.

Anyhow Stock testing completed:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...orla/Capture-Stock.jpg

Going to 3dmark now
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/3dmark06.jpg

Going x264
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Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 60.42 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 60.34 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 60.69 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 60.57 fps, 3905.42 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 17.97 fps, 3952.85 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 18.03 fps, 3952.85 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 17.99 fps, 3952.85 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 17.97 fps, 3952.85 kb/s

Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 64.96 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 65.10 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 64.55 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 65.23 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.05 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.10 fps, 3963.44 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.08 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.12 fps, 3963.43 kb/s


System Details
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Name Intel Core 2 Quad
Codename Yorkfield
Specification (Engineering Sample)
Core Stepping
Technology 45 nm
Stock frequency 3000 MHz
Core Speed 3000.0 MHz (9.0 x 333.3 MHz)
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x

Northbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI MCP rev. A3

CAS# 4.0
RAS# to CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 8
Command Rate 1T
Memory Frequency 333.3 MHz (1:1)
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2046 MBytes
Channels Dual

Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1

max VID 1.250 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.14 Volts [0x8E] (CPU VCORE)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)

Temperature sensor 0 44°C (111°F) [0x2C] (SYSTIN)
Temperature sensor 1 51°C (123°F) [0x66] (CPUTIN)
Temperature sensor 2 37°C (98°F) [0x4A] (AUXTIN)
Temperature sensor 0 50°C (121°F) [0x37] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 50°C (121°F) [0x37] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 2 48°C (118°F) [0x39] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 3 49°C (120°F) [0x38] (core #3)
Temperature sensor 0 43°C (109°F) [0x2B] (GPU Core)
Temperature sensor 0 48°C (118°F) [0x30] (GPU Core)
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SuperPI starting: >.< superpi 32m takes a very long time
http://i125.photobucket.com/al.../aigomorla/SuperPI.jpg

on wPrime: I wish we could post images RAWR.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/wPrime-1.jpg


That finishes stock testing. Going to take a little break and then start 3.6

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
infact WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP SO EARILY looking at h2o parts?

My daughter woke me up at 4AM EST so i've been up a while. The wife was BS'ing with my niece till about 1AM last night and I couldn't sleep so it's gonna be a LONNNNNG day. I need a nap!

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Keep this thread goin, I'm learning!

 

[nyker96]

hey thanks for getting the x264 test results out the door so fast. Just one question, is there a total encode time as the final result? That would make comparison easier.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: nyker96
hey thanks for getting the x264 test results out the door so fast. Just one question, is there a total encode time as the final result? That would make comparison easier.

i posted everything the output text file spat out >.<

Theres more?

i'll do the 3.6 and 4.0.

i havent had much time to test fsb yet as well.

 

[HOOfan 1]

I request a concrete date of release

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
I request a concrete date of release

the rest of the review?

or the chip?

 

[aigomorla]

update.

i just finished the pencil mod.

I got the vcore to nice out at .2V droop! WOOT! gonna have fun again.

Im taking predictions on who can guess the proper vcore required for 4.0ghz :T

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

1.300

"1 dollar bob barker"

 

[aigomorla]

First set of 3.6 benches.

This is Quick Stability with temps. Ambients recorded @ 27.3C, 3DMark06.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...igomorla/36benches.jpg


Starting x264, SuperPI and wPrime (hope you guys dont mind me condensing things)
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Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 69.08 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 69.34 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 61.91 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 69.60 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.48 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.94 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.48 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.39 fps, 3952.97 kb/s

Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 72.67 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 72.84 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 72.50 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 72.55 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.93 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.98 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.03 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.95 fps, 3963.42 kb/s


System Details
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Name Intel Core 2 Quad
Codename Yorkfield
Specification (Engineering Sample)
Core Stepping
Technology 45 nm
Stock frequency 3000 MHz
Core Speed 3600.1 MHz (9.0 x 400.0 MHz)
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x

Northbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI MCP rev. A3

CAS# 4.0
RAS# to CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 8
Command Rate 2T
Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (1:1)
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2046 MBytes
Channels Dual

Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1

max VID 1.250 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.22 Volts [0x99] (CPU VCORE)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)

Temperature sensor 0 54°C (129°F) [0x36] (SYSTIN)
Temperature sensor 1 58°C (135°F) [0x73] (CPUTIN)
Temperature sensor 2 38°C (100°F) [0x4C] (AUXTIN)
Temperature sensor 0 57°C (134°F) [0x30] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 57°C (134°F) [0x30] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 2 56°C (132°F) [0x31] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 3 58°C (136°F) [0x2F] (core #3)
Temperature sensor 0 45°C (112°F) [0x2D] (GPU Core)
Temperature sensor 0 46°C (114°F) [0x2E] (GPU Core)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SuperPI and wPrime to Come.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...igomorla/superpi36.jpg

Finishes 3.6... gonna go onto 4.0

 

[n7]

Oops, i was confused.
Thought your new baby was an Extreme Edition for some reason
Likely the heat & lack of sleep, sorry.

Nice benching.

 

[nyker96]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: nyker96
hey thanks for getting the x264 test results out the door so fast. Just one question, is there a total encode time as the final result? That would make comparison easier.

i posted everything the output text file spat out >.<

Theres more?

i'll do the 3.6 and 4.0.

i havent had much time to test fsb yet as well.

umm, if you look at their database of results on the site, it's posted as total run time. there probably a way to convert to it. i will check it out. if you see no other output, you probably captured everything.

 

[aigomorla]

4.0ghz is loading up pretty high. :X

even under an ifx-14.

yeah my heat sink is getting saturated. I think i need a better fan.

 

[HOOfan 1]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: HOOfan 1
I request a concrete date of release

the rest of the review?

or the chip?

The chip
the chip

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: nyker96
umm, if you look at their database of results on the site, it's posted as total run time. there probably a way to convert to it. i will check it out. if you see no other output, you probably captured everything.

The output file lists the FPS for four runs. Average the FPS and then divide the listed number of frames by the fps rate. Do this for both sections (the fast and slow) and add the times together.

Originally posted by: aigomorla
Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 69.08 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 69.34 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 61.91 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 69.60 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.48 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.94 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.48 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.39 fps, 3952.97 kb/s

so (69.08+69.34+61.91+69.60)/4 = 67.4825 fps (fast)

and (21.48+20.94+21.48+21.39)/4 = 21.3225 fps (slow)

So we have 1442frames/67.4825fps + 1442frames/21.3225fps = 89.0 seconds for Aigo's run.

Using the Graysky embedded excel spreadsheet calculator (scroll down to middle of page) we see the expected time for a 3.6GHz Yorkfield is 1:29, exactly 89 seconds just as Aigo got.

 

[aigomorla]

guys i have no loyalty to intel.

i would not edit my data to make them better. :T

i promise you, my data i give you guys is all virgin.

B4 editing or anything.


Anyhow i got 450fsb stable on prime. But i trip the OCCT temp sensor.

The load temps im not happy about. It was loading at around 73C on realtemp.

To some that may not seem a lot, but guys persephone loads at 52ish on higher voltage settings.

so to me, its OUCH. i need to get a better fan or water, so the 4.0 review is on hold for a little bit.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
The load temps im not happy about. It was loading at around 73C on realtemp.

i need to get a better fan or water, so the 4.0 review is on hold for a little bit.

you know the answer to this. water!

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: aigomorla
The load temps im not happy about. It was loading at around 73C on realtemp.

i need to get a better fan or water, so the 4.0 review is on hold for a little bit.

you know the answer to this. water!

yeah.. but that makes removal so much more difficult.

That completely defeats the idea of a torture rack. :

But it may come down to that.

The Northbridge on this guy pisses me off to. And no aftermarket solution for it minus 2 waterblocks. So i may have to water the board and cpu.