Q9650 PREVIEW! Taking Test Requests.

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Gillbot

Originally posted by: aigomorla
The load temps im not happy about. It was loading at around 73C on realtemp.

i need to get a better fan or water, so the 4.0 review is on hold for a little bit.

you know the answer to this. water!

yeah.. but that makes removal so much more difficult.

That completely defeats the idea of a torture rack. :

But it may come down to that.

The Northbridge on this guy pisses me off to. And no aftermarket solution for it minus 2 waterblocks. So i may have to water the board and cpu.

I find swapping cpu's in my water cooled setup is MUCH easier than with my old air coolers.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
guys i have no loyalty to intel.

i would not edit my data to make them better. :T

i promise you, my data i give you guys is all virgin.

B4 editing or anything.

What generated this seemingly unsolicited defensive statement? Did I miss a juicy flamey post above somewhere?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: aigomorla
guys i have no loyalty to intel.

i would not edit my data to make them better. :T

i promise you, my data i give you guys is all virgin.

B4 editing or anything.

What generated this seemingly unsolicited defensive statement? Did I miss a juicy flamey post above somewhere?

not a flame statement IDC.

Just making sure people dont think theres any Intel Fanism going on.

And you verified my results, Thank you.

So i wanted to kill ANY doubt people had b4 it got up.


Holding 4ghz. As i said im not happy with temps.
http://i125.photobucket.com/al.../aigomorla/prime95.jpg

 

[plewdawg]

Nice chip you have there, I wonder when these will be available...

 

[aigomorla]

well i never followed up with you guys on the 450fsb.

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...73/aigomorla/2hour.jpg

and heres 470fsb:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...gomorla/IMPOSSIBLE.jpg

 

[Kadence]

Neat Thread

I've read that this will come out along with prices cuts, which in the past have tended to be between 7/21-7/25. When might we get some solid release date information for the Q9650? Or do these things tend to just become available suddenly out of nowhere?

 

[aigomorla]

the Q9650 was estimated to be priced somewhere between 500-600 US Dollars.

However guys, dont take this review without a grain of salt.

The stepping on the cpu after much digging is not the average stepping.

In fact its a cherry picked stepping. Stepping A vs Stepping 6.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
the Q9650 was estimated to be priced somewhere between 500-600 US Dollars.

However guys, dont take this review without a grain of salt.

The stepping on the cpu after much digging is not the average stepping.

In fact its a cherry picked stepping. Stepping A vs Stepping 6.

I like cherries.

That reminds me, I need to get a review of my E8500 up.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
The Northbridge on this guy pisses me off to. And no aftermarket solution for it minus 2 waterblocks. So i may have to water the board and cpu.

Not familiar with this board -- what's the potential problem with using aftermarket air cooling on it?

 

[GFORCE100]

The best part about the Q9650 is:

1) It's an E0 stepping, will overclock very nicely, think G0 in the Q6xxx's.
2) It's an 95W TDP at 3GHz which means it will run cool.

Ironic how Intel is 95W TDP at 3GHz while AMD is 140W TDP at 2.6GHz Doesn't matter how you count TDP, what it boils down is how much power these chips consume and give off.

9x450 for a clock speed of 4050MHz will do nicely for Q9650's.

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

And no i cant get 450fsb stable.

as i said the vdroop pushes it to 1.32. i know for a fact most yorkies will require from 1.33-1.36Vcore

but if you have Vdroop, can't you simply raise the motherboard voltage to say 1.39 so it levels off at 1.33-1.36 for you? I always do that if I have Vdroop on any board and I don't necessarily perceive that as a big problem since my cpu is always at 100% load. Most boards allow voltage adjustments in small increments so you are able to increase it to narrow it down to whatever voltage you want, even with Vdroop into account.

What am I missing?

 

[Hugh H]

Talking about the Q9650... does anyone know the release date???

 

[The-Noid]

End of August, Early September.

Chip looks nice, I thought you would have Bloomfield by now though.

 

[aigomorla]

Amber the 780i has 2 chips on the northbridge.

The SPP and the PCI-E 2.0 controller. The didnt roll it like the 790i.

Makes cooling the board very difficult.



Russian, i did the pencil mod, and i have no idea why but that yorkie loves the m 780i. It loves it so much that i pulled 470fsb stable on it without the need for suicide voltages.

@Yoxxy :X
Shhhhhh... cant do anything with NDA.
3.2EE's are still under NDA. :T
2.93 i believe came off, so you should start seeing more of them.

Yoxxy, i have no board. :T
:[

 

[The-Noid]

The only NDA that exists for Bloomfield is via motherboard manufacturers and OEM. Others are stolen and coincidentally no NDA exists because of this.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
The only NDA that exists for Bloomfield is via motherboard manufacturers and OEM. Others are stolen and coincidentally no NDA exists because of this.

actually my source tells me the 3.2 still has the NDA.

 

[The-Noid]

Also NDA's never end on any product, you only sign a single piece of paper, its not as if there is a new contract for each product. Intel just sends you a date when you can publish anything related to any product in your possession.

2.93 NDA was for people venturing to Intel or an Intel running environment. 3.2 is a chip sent to motherboard manufacturers. They also have a 2.0 really old chip, but the 3.2 is the newest chip B1 or C0 is the newest (depending on who you agree with).

 

[The-Noid]

Pencil Mod of the 780i works well, same as 680i. Should be a 100k pot if memory serves me right and you want to do it the real way . (this is the most time I have spent on a real computer in 2 months, although X300 is a nice machine.)

 

[The-Noid]

Just looked at the pics as well. Can you run CPU-Z 1.45.1 to confirm it is E0 (the newest stepping)? I don't know the codes for these chips.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
Just looked at the pics as well. Can you run CPU-Z 1.45.1 to confirm it is E0 (the newest stepping)? I don't know the codes for these chips.

its a really old stepping.

Fugger even confirmed it was a A stepping.

Its not a E0, which i thought it would be. But its not. I dont know why.


And yeah Yoxxy your right, the boards are on NDA, which is why i cant get any. I have no issues getting the chips on loan at almost any moment. The board is whats holding me back.

 

[Hugh H]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
End of August, Early September.

Chip looks nice, I thought you would have Bloomfield by now though.

The thing is, I am not so sure I want to be an early adopter of Nehalem. I would need to see if they overclock at all first, since my cpu will mostly be used for gaming, and Nehalem is not that much faster in single-threaded applications than existing Penryns.

I was planning on maybe getting a Q9650, overclock it to 3.6Ghz, and wait until next year to get a Nehalem after people have experimented with them and the motherboards for a bit, and prices go down a little. Also would give them time to roll out BIOS updates, etc...

Let me know if you think this is a bad strategy

 

[The-Noid]

People that were early adopters to Core 2 were rewarding by having the fastest performance computer for many months. Intel tends not to release anything unless it works.

With the system you have Hugh you don't need to upgrade until nehalem is out.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Hugh H

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
End of August, Early September.

Chip looks nice, I thought you would have Bloomfield by now though.

I was planning on maybe getting a Q9650, overclock it to 3.6Ghz,

Why not get a Q9450 or Q9550 after the cuts and run it at 3.6ghz? I would only go with the 9650 if I was trying for 3.7+ stable on air.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Hugh H

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
End of August, Early September.

Chip looks nice, I thought you would have Bloomfield by now though.

I was planning on maybe getting a Q9650, overclock it to 3.6Ghz,

Why not get a Q9450 or Q9550 after the cuts and run it at 3.6ghz? I would only go with the 9650 if I was trying for 3.7+ stable on air.

4.05gh stable on air

Realistically id say 3.8 on air.

That 9x multi is yummy.

 

[Hugh H]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Hugh H

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
End of August, Early September.

Chip looks nice, I thought you would have Bloomfield by now though.

I was planning on maybe getting a Q9650, overclock it to 3.6Ghz,

Why not get a Q9450 or Q9550 after the cuts and run it at 3.6ghz? I would only go with the 9650 if I was trying for 3.7+ stable on air.

Because I´m a noob (this was my first build + first overclock), and I wanted to run my FSB/memory at a 1:1 ratio without having to overclock the memory (planned to do 9 x 400, since my memory is 800Mhz DDR2).