Hold up! You know you are not using the optimal X Elite listing for that comparison right?Sorry, Flametail but Imma gonna be a bit critical about yer Oryon puppy
I thought they can operate in 23w envelope. That should work for Surface Pro.No lol, it's a higher power part with 12 chungus cores.
The only thing comparable to mainline Apple tablet parts is another tablet part, LNL.
Lenovo is likely gonna be the cheapest and hence what most people are going to be able to use. Samsung? It will be wayyy overpriced.Hold up! You know you are not using the optimal X Elite listing for that comparison right?
Cough Xbox coughWoA is a delusional MS affair, and boy do they have many others.
Xbox, the insane OpenAI investments and so on and so forth.Name some, please.
Not just them even.Cough Xbox cough
Yeah, that's why they're gonna pay top dollar for strix1.People really wanna pay the premium for better browsing speed?
Xbox keeps Sony on their toes and results in better hardware for console peasants.Xbox, the insane OpenAI investments and so on and so forth.
Yeah but that doesn't explain the low 2400 ST score. Qualcomm has shown that X Elite can do 2700 in a 23W device TDP envelope.Lenovo is likely gonna be the cheapest and hence what most people are going to be able to use. Samsung? It will be wayyy overpriced.
That M3 Pro is clocked at 3.7Ghz. The 4.05Ghz version beats the X Elite in MT too. Despite having 6 less P cores.OK, maybe they have a slight chance at winning over some Macintoshers with the slightly better MT performance in some areas before the M4 is released.
Load the result you wanna compare against first and then set baseline. Then load Oryon one and it will show the comparison.@igor_kavinski
How do you do the CPU comparison in Geekbench 6 browser? I am unable to find a "compare" button.
Or just getting throttled more aggressively by firmware to keep temps/energy usage down. I'll trust Lenovo to know what they are doing. They are not a small player.So this Lenovo device is either a <10W fanless device or a fanned laptop but still in testing/debugging phase.
Microsoft could also try to do Windows Phone 2.0 where Oryon and its AI engine is powerful enough to make traditional desktop apps transform into mobile apps with appropriate mobile screen friendly UI through manipulation of UI API calls.All almost use phones or tablets, that’s the direction Qualcomm should go. Put those cores in Android phones and tablets and port over desktop PC apps.
it has more watts (sounds simple enough I guess)?It's certainly jarring how the M3 Pro (6P+6E) beats the X Elite (12P) in multithread by about 11%.
comparing against Phoenix is an outright dumb idea, Hamoa doesn't go against it.ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG Zephyrus G14 GA403UI_GA403UI vs SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. Galaxy Book4 Edge - Geekbench
*Hawk Point, but ok.comparing against Phoenix is an outright dumb idea, Hamoa doesn't go against it.
Different segments??Very different segments.
I should count the number of times I wrote this: if you want to look at something that scales well in GB, look at the Ray Tracer score. You'll notice that Oryon is about 19% faster than M3 Pro. And if you look at CB results, Oryon is about 15% faster. Pretty similar.Ok these are more interesting:
It's certainly jarring how the M3 Pro (6P+6E) beats the X Elite (12P) in multithread by about 11%.
I think their might be some explanations why:
1. Cross-cluster communication penalties: M3 Pro has only 2 clusters of cores, whereas X Elite has 3 clusters of cores.
2. We know Geekbench 6 MT doesn't scale well beyond 8 cores. M3 Pro's P cores are faster than the X Elite's P cores, and in X Elite only 2 of the cores are running at the highest clockspeed (dual-core boost), whereas in M3 Pro all 6 P-cores run at 4 GHz.
We can see the script being flipped in Cinebench 2024 MT, where X Elite comes out on top:
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3. The Galaxy Book4 Edge listing we used for the above 2 comparisons is the 4.0/3.4 GHz version running Windows.
Now let's compare the very best incarnation of X Elite (4.3/3.8 GHz - Linux, no thermal limitations) against M3 Pro:
MacBook Pro (14-inch, Nov 2023) vs Qualcomm CRD - Geekbench
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Same thing.*Hawk Point, but ok.
Hawk is cheapo devices this year.Different segments??
Eh?Same thing.
Hawk is cheapo devices this year.