It's a devkit. Those always cost way too much.$1600 with only 12 GB is way too much for my toying needs
idk, dev kit mac mini was $500 with 16GB RAM and 512SSD.It's a devkit. Those always cost way too much.
Qualcomm charges $1k+ for dev kits. You get an SBC with poor features, an integrated touchscreen (sometimes!) that you can use as a bootable display, aaaaand that's about it. I remember looking at their Snapdragon 845 dev kit (or was it 855? I forget) that cost $1k.idk, dev kit mac mini was $500 with 16GB RAM and 512SSD.
And you can keep those
Insane, no wonder WoA doesn’t take offQualcomm charges $1k+ for dev kits. You get an SBC with poor features, an integrated touchscreen (sometimes!) that you can use as a bootable display, aaaaand that's about it. I remember looking at their Snapdragon 845 dev kit (or was it 855? I forget) that cost $1k.
QCM doing well in other markets, Mobiles, Automotive, WearablesInsane, no wonder WoA doesn’t take off
Did you take a look at the kit I mentioned? It's certainly not that kind of devkit.Qualcomm charges $1k+ for dev kits. You get an SBC with poor features, an integrated touchscreen (sometimes!) that you can use as a bootable display, aaaaand that's about it. I remember looking at their Snapdragon 845 dev kit (or was it 855? I forget) that cost $1k.
1 x HDMI OUT
1 x DP V1.4 over Type-C
1 x USB 3.1 Type C
7 x USB 3.0 Type A
2 x 1000M Ethernet Port
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Microsoft had released their own dev kit based Snapdragon 8cx Gen3: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/dev-kit/Insane, no wonder WoA doesn’t take off
Those specs are better than those on the 845 dev board I saw years ago, but not $1500 good.Did you take a look at the kit I mentioned? It's certainly not that kind of devkit.
They are not worth that price for us and that was the point I made from the start. But you still misrepresented what current devkits areThose specs are better than those on the 845 dev board I saw years ago, but not $1500 good.
I know what they are. They're just frustrating to see when all you want is an SBC with a modern Qualcomm mobile chipset on it, and then you see one of these and you're like hmm that might be interesting NOPE nevermind.They are not worth that price for us and that was the point I made from the start. But you still misrepresented what current devkits are
The MS devkit is still a good deal though alas it's using a now obsolete chip, and I guess it fulfilled the need to get something affordable for people wanting to port software to WoA. But it's not for me, I want Linux.
Well good thing the actual current dev board with an 8cx gen 3 and about Zen 2 perf doesn’t cost $1500…. Just $600.Those specs are better than those on the 845 dev board I saw years ago, but not $1500 good.
Oryon, possibly with some physical design modifications they couldn’t get on time for PC stuff since it came later, plus it’s on N3E. Also pretty positive they’ll have a bigger SLC (and/or L3 but probably just SLC) on a phones chip (as Apple do too) which will keep power down.What core is the 8 Gen 4 using?
No that was bull. Charlie Demerjian just bs’d lol. QC probably does have quality standards but the rumor was forcing them to buy QC PMICs which they explicitly said is not true in October.Is Qualcomm really making it cheap to build Snapdragon X Elite? Or are they mugging OEMs by forcing them to integrate stuff like Qualcomm-approved VRMs and other weirdness?
Intel 7 is not actually cheap, and it could be an X Plus (which for now is the X Elite die but binned down) they’re comparing with which also makes sense.Snapdragon X Series chips cost only half as much as Intel Raptor Lake's, with up to 98% longer battery life - VideoCardz.com
Qualcomm Snapdragon X outclasses Intel Alder Lake in video playback time Leaked internal Dell documents compare older XPS 13 systems to the upcoming Snapdragon-based version. One of the main features of the upcoming Qualcomm X Series will be battery life. The ARM-based processors may set a new...videocardz.com
Cheaper than RPL?? If so, QCOM is being very, very aggresive for TAM and design wins.
Hopefully, Dell updated those slides containing Apple comparisons. Because the M2 and M3 Mac Airs got cheaper and the $2000 machine is no longer a M2 Pro.Intel 7 is not actually cheap, and it could be an X Plus (which for now is the X Elite die but binned down) they’re comparing with which also makes sense.
One thing I think we can say fairly confidently is the AMD and Intel guys (yes here too) who thought Qualcomm was going to try and pull the same 8cx Gen 3 Lenovo X13S systems @ $1200-1600 were wishcasting.
That makes no sense, it never made sense in light of the size of this launch, the 170mm^2 N4P die size, etc. Qualcomm is greedy but they do respond to competition, and the PC space as a newcomer having bought Nuvia for $1.4B does not in fact imply the entire range of products would be expensive, or rather that the value prop wouldn’t be there, etc.