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eek2121

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Intel 7 is not actually cheap, and it could be an X Plus (which for now is the X Elite die but binned down) they’re comparing with which also makes sense.

One thing I think we can say fairly confidently is the AMD and Intel guys (yes here too) who thought Qualcomm was going to try and pull the same 8cx Gen 3 Lenovo X13S systems @ $1200-1600 were wishcasting.

That makes no sense, it never made sense in light of the size of this launch, the 170mm^2 N4P die size, etc. Qualcomm is greedy but they do respond to competition, and the PC space as a newcomer having bought Nuvia for $1.4B does not in fact imply the entire range of products would be expensive, or rather that the value prop wouldn’t be there, etc.
According the this article: It is indeed for the cut down plus model. Also, the projected MSRP for laptop in this leak will be in that range or above it. Information about actual costs as well as “SAPP” are in the article.
 

Jan Olšan

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Cheaper than RPL?? If so, QCOM is being very, very aggresive for TAM and design wins.
But it seems the "carcass" is listed as ~90$ more expensive, so the cheaper SoC may be "compensated" by more expensive motherboard (could it be those VRMs after all?), if I am reading the table right?
 
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DrMrLordX

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No that was bull. Charlie Demerjian just bs’d lol. QC probably does have quality standards but the rumor was forcing them to buy QC PMICs which they explicitly said is not true in October.

Okay, but . . .
But it seems the "carcass" is listed as ~90$ more expensive, so the cheaper SoC may be "compensated" by more expensive motherboard (could it be those VRMs after all?), if I am reading the table right?

Something seems amiss.
 

Nothingness

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Oh that looks like some great news:



I knew Linaro was working on it (I posted a link some days ago about a proposed patch they did for Linux kernel), but I didn't know how far it was.

I will nonetheless wait a bit and see how that unrolls and what laptops are really supported.
 

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Interestingly, according to someone I talk to on an AV1 encoding discord the Google Tensor G3 cores support SVE2....

 
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SpudLobby

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Interestingly, according to someone I talk to on an AV1 encoding discord the Google Tensor G3 cores support SVE2....

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Yeah but that’s not surprising. Google support MTE too, and I don’t think QC does even on flagships.

They also have a 16kb page size Linux kernel / Android version you can flash to a Pixel, and Android 15 now supports 16kb pages explicitly and encourages developers to add support with the Android Toolchain.


They have to be on the frontlines of this stuff. Or at the very least it’s very beneficial for development internal and external too as a bonus for building their own hardware.
 

poke01

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Microsoft build, next week. Most curious about what clocks X elite will be offered on the surface line.
 

poke01

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For the tablet, 3.4GHz. For the laptops, that or the highest SKU.
I want to see if this sku will be offered X1 Elite (X1E-84-100), after all they bragged about it in their keynote.


Samsung seems be to offering good choices.
 
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SpudLobby

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I want to see if this sku will be offered X1 Elite (X1E-84-100), after all they bragged about it in their keynote.
Why wouldn’t it be? Not sure why you’re so hard about it, but I have a pretty good guess.

Samsung seems be to offering good choices.
Of course.
 
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SpudLobby

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I’m just annoyed by their marketing lol. They keep on talking but not actually releasing the product.
Dude it’s been planned to be released around this time since October. They’re hyping it up because it’s a big deal for WoA and PC’s and it got delayed, simple as. You’re an Apple fan (Jimmy I believe) which I think explains a bit more of the irritation and FUD. It wasn’t going to be AMD and Intel forever as much as I know Mac Rumors etc would’ve loved that.

There are at least 10 different designs that have leaked and will be released at Computex or sooner. Cut this crap out. They’ve said it’s coming in the summer for some tome now, they’re not further delaying or obfuscating.
 
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poke01

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Dude it’s been planned to be released around this time since October. They’re hyping it up because it’s a big deal for WoA and PC’s and it got delayed, simple as. You’re an Apple fan (Jimmy I believe) which I think explains a bit more of the irritation and FUD. It wasn’t going to be AMD and Intel forever as much as I know Mac Rumors etc would’ve loved that.

There are at least 10 different designs that have leaked and will be released at Computex or sooner. Cut this crap out. They’ve said it’s coming in the summer for some tome now, they’re not further delaying or obfuscating.
I’m not Jimmy. I would very much like
competition as that would keep Apple on their toes.
 
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