question about bongs

[glen]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: glen
Tar is non polar and water is polar.
Tar has one of the lowest solubilies in water of anything I can think of or google.
I used to smoke dope and you would always here that the bong removes the tar or bad stuff, but I think thta is basically an old stoner's tale.

There's more in smoke than just thc & tar. The amount you can toke in a binger without hacking up a lung is at least 5x what you can using other methods, there's definitely more to it than smoke temperature.

Oh and /obligatory

I suppose there are some polar compounds in Marijuana, but I don't know of any.
Can anyone find a list of the compounds?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire


You guys are smoking herb with tar in it? Does the USA just suck that bad, or it is just your hookup? God, find a new distributor.

- M4H

Tar is a byproduct from the smoke... or am I telling you something you already know...

Well, I meant "added tar" as in cigarettes ... but yeah, open mouth, insert foot.

Hmm, foot bong.

- M4H

 

[Eli]

I'm sure it's already been covered.... lol

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: glen
Tar is non polar and water is polar.
Tar has one of the lowest solubilies in water of anything I can think of or google.
I used to smoke dope and you would always here that the bong removes the tar or bad stuff, but I think thta is basically an old stoner's tale.

There's more in smoke than just thc & tar. The amount you can toke in a binger without hacking up a lung is at least 5x what you can using other methods, there's definitely more to it than smoke temperature.

Oh and /obligatory

I suppose there are some polar compounds in Marijuana, but I don't know of any.
Can anyone find a list of the compounds?

lol, I'm sure there's a list somewhere, but it gets even more complicated when you add flame.....

And then there's the issue of differing ammounts of raw elements that are in the tissues of the product(aka fertilizer).

It's true that it filters a very small ammount, but it does filter something. The water in a bong turns murkey brown after just a few uses.

 

[RelaxTheMind]

this is where vaporizors come in. heats up the "stuff" instead of burning it. its almost like smoking air and you still get all the wonderful effects. works best with hash though.

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: glen
Tar is non polar and water is polar.
Tar has one of the lowest solubilies in water of anything I can think of or google.

THC is water soluble tho'
IIRC there were some studies in the 70's that showed tar/THC ratio actually goes up with a bong.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: glen
Tar is non polar and water is polar.
Tar has one of the lowest solubilies in water of anything I can think of or google.
I used to smoke dope and you would always here that the bong removes the tar or bad stuff, but I think thta is basically an old stoner's tale.

If you use any one bong at length without cleaning it, quite a great amount of resin (i was going to say a great amount of great resin haha) can collect in and around the pipe, especially where the pipe enters the water. I assume that if it weren't in the bong, it would be in my lungs. This is of course assuming resin = 'bad stuff' for your lungs which I have no idea. Just wanted to add a little insight. Actually Eli pointed out this as well.

"YOU SPILLED BONG WATER ON THE PERSIAN!!! AHHHHHH!"

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: myusername

Originally posted by: glen
Tar is non polar and water is polar.
Tar has one of the lowest solubilies in water of anything I can think of or google.

THC is water soluble tho'
IIRC there were some studies in the 70's that showed tar/THC ratio actually goes up with a bong.

None of the cannabinoids are water soluble.

They're fat soluble. That's why it's one of the only drugs that stays in your system potentially long after you've stopped smoking. It's absorbed into your fat cells.

If you're one of the skinny as a rail, eat anything you want type of people, you probably don't have a lot to worry about when it comes to drug tests, you could be clean in a few days, even after heavy smoking.

However, if you're a middleaged man that has been smoking heavily since he was thin and 20, you've got a problem.

That's also why you can use butter to extract THC to use for baking.

Oh, how we all wish it was water soluble.. lol

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire


You guys are smoking herb with tar in it? Does the USA just suck that bad, or it is just your hookup? God, find a new distributor.

- M4H

Incase you weren't being sarcastic, tar=resins .. which good herb has a lot of.

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: myusername

Originally posted by: glen
Tar is non polar and water is polar.
Tar has one of the lowest solubilies in water of anything I can think of or google.

THC is water soluble tho'
IIRC there were some studies in the 70's that showed tar/THC ratio actually goes up with a bong.

None of the cannabinoids are water soluble.

They're fat soluble. That's why it's one of the only drugs that stays in your system potentially long after you've stopped smoking. It's absorbed into your fat cells.

If you're one of the skinny as a rail, eat anything you want type of people, you probably don't have a lot to worry about when it comes to drug tests, you could be clean in a few days, even after heavy smoking.

However, if you're a middleaged man that has been smoking heavily since he was thin and 20, you've got a problem.

That's also why you can use butter to extract THC to use for baking.

Oh, how we all wish it was water soluble.. lol

the man knows his stuff! wonder why he chooses the hippie avater...

 

[myusername]

I believe this link references the study I was referring to.

I haven't had much more luck with ethanol than water, even though it is a polar solvent.

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: myusername
I believe this link references the study I was referring to.

I haven't had much more luck with ethanol than water, even though it is a polar solvent.

a MSN group page would not be a very credible reference...

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: myusername
I believe this link references the study I was referring to.

I haven't had much more luck with ethanol than water, even though it is a polar solvent.

a MSN group page would not be a very credible reference...

The author is a PhD with NORML

edit: to clarify, since you didn't read it yet - it does not state that THC is readily water soluble, just that it is *soluble enough* that using a bong produces a higher tar/thc ratio than a regular joint.

 

[shilala]

Originally posted by: Baked
'Cause the water mellows the crunk up.

'at's right.
Can-do's hit better than a bong.

 

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: iamme
so everyone can laugh hysterically when the bong water spills

That is not a laughing matter, few things smell quite as bad as bongwater.

Its funny when someone coughs when their mouth is on the bong, water shoots out the hole on the bottom in a perfect stream.... All over your buddies couch, now thats funny.

 

[soogiebro]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
Anthony by day, TAP SOME BONG BY NIGHT!

HAhaha, Russel Peters, funny comedian. Y'all should check out his material.

 

[aircooled]

why dont we all just take a bong hit and stfu

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
this is where vaporizors come in. heats up the "stuff" instead of burning it. its almost like smoking air and you still get all the wonderful effects. works best with hash though.

I've heard that it's a different feeling since the temperature in those is enough to vaporize THC but not the other cannabinoids in herb. Personally I like the full bouquet; the THC hitting hard for the first half hour or so followed by the rest of them giving you that stony relaxed feeling. Haven't actually tried one though, any first-hand comments?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Baked

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: aircooled
it acts as a filter and cools the smoke. it's a good thing.

oh, so it doesn't burn your throat/lungs or something?

No, it still gives you cancer. But w/ the water, it tastes sweeter.

Plus, you can drink the bong water after a few hundred tokes and get a really good buzz!!!

 

[RelaxTheMind]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: RelaxTheMind
this is where vaporizors come in. heats up the "stuff" instead of burning it. its almost like smoking air and you still get all the wonderful effects. works best with hash though.

I've heard that it's a different feeling since the temperature in those is enough to vaporize THC but not the other cannabinoids in herb. Personally I like the full bouquet; the THC hitting hard for the first half hour or so followed by the rest of them giving you that stony relaxed feeling. Haven't actually tried one though, any first-hand comments?

depends on how hot your vaporizer is set to. red hot is ideal it effectively burns the "stuff" without the harmful effects of an open flame. I made mine with a modified soldering iron.

hash is as close to pure thc than ur average toker can get. a big lawn bag of fan leaves yields like maybe 2-4 tablespoons.