Questions about Spenda

QueBert

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I'm confused, the 1.6lb bag says "Equivalent sweetness to 10 LBS of sugar" yet all the recipes I see say to substitute 1:1 Spenda/Sugar when using it. I was thinking about using it to make Sweet Tea, but a $14 bag would only make 2.5 pitchers using it 1:1. Anyone here make Sweet Tea with it? I can't find anything on how many pitchers you can get out of 1 bag of it.
 

shortylickens

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You mean Splenda?

And no, the shit is NOT equal to sugar gram for gram.
I tried making Kool-aid with it and needed about one and a half times as much. Which costs me about 10 times as much. Fuck that, would rather use sugar and jog a little extra every day.
 

mrCide

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This article/page looks like shit. Not only is this off topic but it's worthless.

EDIT: There are 2 types of Splenda products, the "cooking replacement" sugar and the regular packets. the packets are much more dense/fine than the cooking replacement. Splenda is much sweeter so the cooking replacement tries to be 1:1 by making it "airy".
 
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Ausm

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You mean Splenda?

And no, the shit is NOT equal to sugar gram for gram.
I tried making Kool-aid with it and needed about one and a half times as much. Which costs me about 10 times as much. Fuck that, would rather use sugar and jog a little extra every day.

It's equal from a diabetic's standpoint, that's if you hardly ever eat processed sugar.
 

destrekor

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I'm confused, the 1.6lb bag says "Equivalent sweetness to 10 LBS of sugar" yet all the recipes I see say to substitute 1:1 Spenda/Sugar when using it. I was thinking about using it to make Sweet Tea, but a $14 bag would only make 2.5 pitchers using it 1:1. Anyone here make Sweet Tea with it? I can't find anything on how many pitchers you can get out of 1 bag of it.

1:1 is by volume, not weight.


As in, that large bag will produce the same amount as 10 lbs when using dry measuring methods - such as cup for cup.

So, if recipes call for sugar in weight, it's probably best to figure out how much that works out to in dry volume measurement, and go from there.

Or if it calls for a 5LB bag of sugar, use half of that splenda package. Or whatever.

I've never actually done this with recipes, so I don't know how it all works out. I'm sort of against splenda for those purposes, since it doesn't really accomplish much except cut back calories.

I have been thinking about trying a 1:1 product based around Stevia, but haven't gotten around to it yet. All they do to the raw chemical sugar replacements to make it 1:1 is add a bunch of starch-type filler, typically dextrose. Which, in terms of digestion, I'm not entirely sure how it all equates in the end.
 

diesbudt

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I'm against any artificial substitutes, but I don't see any real science there. I want to hate Splenda, but that article isn't convincing me. I guess I can still hate the flavor...

One experiement nutritionalists/scientists love to do is take people and have each group only use sugar/splenda/whatever. And then they have results at the end of some period with sugar being the "better" chemical.

However there is never control on what they eat.

Someone drinking koolaid with sugar, but eating grilled chicken, broccoli, carrots and potatoes vs someone drinking a sweetner with mcdonalds Big macs, 2 large fries and a small sundae.

Guess which diet is healthier? The sugar one. However if you equalize the meals. And equalize how much of Splenda vs sugar is eaten/drank. I bet over all health effects will slightly lean in favor of splenda. However I agree the taste of it sucks in comparison.

the true issue with sweetners is? It psycologically tricks people into thinking they can eat more because of drinking less sugar.
 

diesbudt

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I'm confused, the 1.6lb bag says "Equivalent sweetness to 10 LBS of sugar" yet all the recipes I see say to substitute 1:1 Spenda/Sugar when using it. I was thinking about using it to make Sweet Tea, but a $14 bag would only make 2.5 pitchers using it 1:1. Anyone here make Sweet Tea with it? I can't find anything on how many pitchers you can get out of 1 bag of it.

back on topic

Really depends how sweet you want your tea.

What you need to do is: Make a small amoutn of tea. Slowly add the sweetner to it untill you find the right sweetness level with said sweetner. Then just scale up the batch size to full scale. (All sweetners and sugars are not created equal)
 

Aikouka

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I've never made sweet tea with it, but I have made cookies using Splenda instead of sugar. The cookies tasted alright using a 1:1 ratio, but the worst part was the aftertaste. They also looked a bit different than the batch that I made with sugar.

If you want to reduce the calorie count of your sweet tea, why not try a 50/50 mix of sugar and Splenda?
 

diesbudt

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I've never made sweet tea with it, but I have made cookies using Splenda instead of sugar. The cookies tasted alright using a 1:1 ratio, but the worst part was the aftertaste. They also looked a bit different than the batch that I made with sugar.

If you want to reduce the calorie count of your sweet tea, why not try a 50/50 mix of sugar and Splenda?

You are too intelligent for these forums Aik.
 

bigrash

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I use sugar, but my wife uses Splenda. I normally find that I need to use more Splenda than sugar in order for it to taste right.
 

destrekor

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One experiement nutritionalists/scientists love to do is take people and have each group only use sugar/splenda/whatever. And then they have results at the end of some period with sugar being the "better" chemical.

However there is never control on what they eat.

Someone drinking koolaid with sugar, but eating grilled chicken, broccoli, carrots and potatoes vs someone drinking a sweetner with mcdonalds Big macs, 2 large fries and a small sundae.

Guess which diet is healthier? The sugar one. However if you equalize the meals. And equalize how much of Splenda vs sugar is eaten/drank. I bet over all health effects will slightly lean in favor of splenda. However I agree the taste of it sucks in comparison.

the true issue with sweetners is? It psycologically tricks people into thinking they can eat more because of drinking less sugar.

Not to mention, without significant control of oneself, it still causes a rise and fall in actual blood sugar, which typically results in feeling hungry again sooner than one would normally. If one listens to the first gut signals, you would eat more. If one waits a fair bit of time after first getting those gut signals, the body will typically generate new signals that signifies satiation.


It takes a fair bit of mental mind games in terms of eating in general, and playing the sugar/sweetener rise/fall game. Our body is keyed to not give two shits about what we think mentally, but rather works on up to the second information gleamed from chemical reactions produced on the gut, which is typically a react first, figure out later sort of thing. All that is because it doesn't care about our figure or what we do or don't have right in front of our eyes, it just wants to ensure it has enough food to survive. And typically, it's a glutton-sort of process, because "it" does not initially value anything regarding the external situation and what the brain ultimately understands, rather... it only knows right now, right this second, and doesn't understand time, especially in regards to long-term planning.
The gut simply wants to ensure we can survive. It also has no concept of false sugars. Most of them, save for sugar alcohols (I think) and stevia, tend to trick the body into actually thinking real sugar is present. Which one may think is good, until you realize that means the body begins shuttling sugar about because now it thinks it has sugar "on-deck" so it can put reserved sugar "at the plate" instead of calling in the pinch hitter to stave off any unnecessary burning of reserved energy.
So after a heavy dose of a sugar substitute like sucrolose, blood sugar and insulin activity tend to increase (I may have butchered that part...), which means it will drop later, which causes either (or both) hunger and fatigue. Which, the natural reaction for our body tends to be "okay, we need more energy. FEED ME!"
Which, for anyone who has thus far failed to manage a healthy dietary intake, and is resorting to diets (or, for those who must carefully monitor blood sugar levels), this can be a very bad thing. For the former, it means they'll eat more unless they voluntarily suppress their desires (and ignoring the initial instinct); for the latter, it can be hazardous.

Looking back, I probably have a lot of that wrong at the specific level, as I was trying to spell out a generalized picture (possibly without success on that front either).
 
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I'm confused, the 1.6lb bag says "Equivalent sweetness to 10 LBS of sugar" yet all the recipes I see say to substitute 1:1 Spenda/Sugar when using it. I was thinking about using it to make Sweet Tea, but a $14 bag would only make 2.5 pitchers using it 1:1. Anyone here make Sweet Tea with it? I can't find anything on how many pitchers you can get out of 1 bag of it.

Is it the 1.6 pound bag that's got that fluffy filler in it? It's a 1:1 replacement by volume, not by mass. A cup of sugar weighs like 8 ounces. A cup of the baking mix Splenda is like 1 ounce or something. So that 1.6 pound bag is 20-something cups of Splenda. (20 cups of sugar would weigh about ten pounds.)

Sugar is cheaper, cup for cup, but it's heavier.

How big are your pitchers? Sweet tea recipes I looked up all cite between 1 and 2 cups of sugar per gallon. So that 1.6 pound bag of Splenda should get you 10-20 gallons of sweet tea.
 

DCal430

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1:1 is by volume, not weight.


As in, that large bag will produce the same amount as 10 lbs when using dry measuring methods - such as cup for cup.

So, if recipes call for sugar in weight, it's probably best to figure out how much that works out to in dry volume measurement, and go from there.

Or if it calls for a 5LB bag of sugar, use half of that splenda package. Or whatever.

I've never actually done this with recipes, so I don't know how it all works out. I'm sort of against splenda for those purposes, since it doesn't really accomplish much except cut back calories.

I have been thinking about trying a 1:1 product based around Stevia, but haven't gotten around to it yet. All they do to the raw chemical sugar replacements to make it 1:1 is add a bunch of starch-type filler, typically dextrose. Which, in terms of digestion, I'm not entirely sure how it all equates in the end.

Avoid stevia based sweeteners IMHO, they all taste very bitter. From a taste standpoint splenda is probably the best.
 

destrekor

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Avoid stevia based sweeteners IMHO, they all taste very bitter. From a taste standpoint splenda is probably the best.

I've only used it (Truvia) in coffee. Doesn't bother me there. I can taste a difference, but it's probably one of the worst Stevia products on the market.
 

SheHateMe

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I am diabetic so these sweeteners help when I don't want to take in too much sugar. I don't use Splenda though...mostly Truvia and pure stevia extract, but I don't use it too often.

I pretty much eat like the rest of you, except I know my limits and I know how I feel when I've taken in too much at once.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Stop it! You're hurting my head and making me laugh at the same time. QueBert, how about you just taste it a couple of times til you get the sweetness you like?
 
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