Originally posted by: GFORCE100
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: Muhadib
The Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme is the best air cooling you can get. If have money to burn then spend $150 on a peltier sink like the Vigor Monsoon II. The performance surely does not justify the price, not to mention the extra power needed to fule the peltier portion of the rig.
NO THIS DOES NOT WORK.
WHY WONT YOU PEOPLE LEARN WHAT TEC's REALLY ARE?!?!!?
IM SO FED UP WITH PEOPLE PRETENDING TO KNOW WHAT A TEC IS AND RECOMENDING CRAPPY AIR TEC SOLUTIONS LIKE THE MONSOON. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THIS KIND OF POST NEEDS TO BE IN TEH CASE AND COOLING SECTION.
Sorry for typing caps, but it really pisses me off that people are recomending things like the monsoon. You start talking about monsoon over at XS forums, and THEY will seriously LAUGH at your face. Honestly did you read my post above? i said these things are KNOWN to overexceed 226W tec, and you think a Monsoon with a DOWNVOLTED 60W TEC can handle it?
XS Forums ultimate guide to TEC's
READ it. Learn from it. If your going to TEC, you need to master water. If you want a crappy toy TEC like the monsoon or classes like that, then GET A IFX-14 By thermalright. THATS THERE NEW KING. NO ITS NOT THE ULTRA 120, its the IFX-14. AND THAT WILL PWN the monsoon vigor. No contest, game over.
SO GET IT RIGHT. People recomending crappy stuff like this only brings more problems to guys like me over at the case and cooling forum. Because WE have to help fix it.
So no dont recomend crappy stuff like that tec product, or even a zalman waterkit, or koolance, or thermalcrap.
Either you cool a QX down properly, or you dont OC at all. Thats all there is to it.
http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_ifx14.htm
So dont tell me anymore the ultra120 is the king. ITS NOT.
Hmmm......my QX6700 at 3GHz at 1.25Vcore using 4x Prime95 scores 54C under load using a Titan Amanda which is basically the same as a Vigoor Monsoon II. What you say is true but you're forgetting most people don't want to reach 4GHz hence all this about the QX6700 producing too much heat is unecessary. It's also a downvolted 89W TEC rather than a 60W.
You don't have to help others over at any other forum as it's not your job by definition and involves no financial bounty, it's purely your choice to help others. If it makes you tiresome then so be it, you will never educate everyone but the best you can do is by making the most amount of sticky's in relevant forums about TEC's so others can go and read about it.
ahahaha... your right, and i applogize for being a bit estatic.
Its just ive had in the past 2 months, 4 comments from members wanting to tweek there vigor monsoonII.
Now, your running 1.25V so your near stock voltage. So yes, that setup will perform better then stock, however, even if you were to view anandtech's review, you can clearly see the vigor overshaddowing the tuniq tower in performance.
That alone should tell you about the product in terms of performance. How the editor managed to squeeze 200mhz higher, i have no clue.... in fact no one at XS Forum has an idea on how. The temps correlate with a tuniq, yet he got a better overclock.
http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2921&p=5
I also said, if your going to oc on air, keep the QX below 1.4V which you did. And you probably know first hand what happens when you push the voltage to 1.3 -> 1.4 -> 1.45
The QX as i mentioned is 2 C2D's stamped next to each other. This means both dies will heat up. Here better to explain it would be a quote from techreport:
The E6700's thermal rating, or TDP, is 65W, while the X6800's is 75W. Fittingly, the QX6700's TDP is exactly twice that of the E6700 at 130W.
Now thats 2 C2D's your trying to cool there. Highly Overclocked, would even put my water to its knees. Also why i said they are known to exceed 226W tec's.
Remember a TEC should have roughly 2x the wattage output a CPU can. That is the proper way to use TECs. And if you do the match, a E6600, at 1.4V can put out almost 121W. Now you throw that in a QX... a rough conversion comes out to close to 242W.
WOOPS, you just overshot your TEC.
So, if your going to get a QX, you need the best form of cooling you can get. If air is your limit, i highly suggest you take a close look at thermalarights IFX-14. But i promise you, that thing will still heat up.
If you want to cool that chip down, so you can unleash it, water, or sub ambient is the only form to go.