Radeon 7000 PCI

[SneakyStuff]

Hey guys, gonna be goin over to my cousins in a bit, and they have 3 comps over there, one with a 9500 pro, one with a 5700, and one with a PCI Radeon 7000, paired with 512MB of SDram, and an 866 MHz PIII with the 133 MHz fsb. I'm just wondering what I could use to overclock the Radeon 7000 (because they're prolly gonna give me that comp for our little LAN party :|) Thanks (I'm not an ATI guy, I only know coolbits!)

 

[Kondik]

you sayd 7000? hm dont kow frequencies but i think 200/266?? dont know help me

 

[SneakyStuff]

164/200 something yea lol

 

[Toro 45]

check google for "ATI tool" good little overclocking tool

 

[SneakyStuff]

And that will work on a Radeon 7000?

 

[Auric]

Hope you're gonna be playing old games 'cause that sucka don't even have HW TCL plus it sports a 64 bit bus. Add the slow PC PCI bus and yer lookin' at low-res hell.

I looked it up and freqs are prolly 166/166 with AGP version 183/183 so I guess at least a 10% o'erclock on the VPU ought be possible but the memory depends more on the spec. If you want to go nutzoid google the part number on the RAM chips.

 

[SneakyStuff]

well, we'd prolly just be playing age of mythology, warcraft 3, and i was really curious to see if unreal 2k4 would be playable on the system

 

[VirtualLarry]

Uhh, is the 7000 even a 3D card? Better hope your LAN games comprise of play AOE or something..
Heck, original UT is barely playable on a 7500, and that has hardware T&L. Take my advice, 7000 == good for 2D only.

I upgraded to a Radeon 9200 myself, and that's still barely too slow for UT2K4. I can get 30 FPS in some areas, but in other it bogs down horribly, so I guess it's not quite enough.

 

[Peter]

The 7000 is a DirectX7 3D card, just like the 7500. And it does have hardware T&L, it's just that early drivers masked it off, to keep the distance from the original Radeon (7200).

 

[MDE]

A PCI 7200 sucks eggs, the 7000 can't be much better. I'd take a card of my own over there if you can. My PCI 7200 was VPU clock-locked, but the memory wasn't.

 

[Mloot]

According to some testing I did long ago, the 7000 PCI is on par with the 845G Intel Extreme Graphics. :disgust: Not alot of gaming potential to had there.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Peter
The 7000 is a DirectX7 3D card, just like the 7500. And it does have hardware T&L, it's just that early drivers masked it off, to keep the distance from the original Radeon (7200).

I was pretty sure that the 7000 is what became of the original "Radeon LE", that had it's T&L engine disabled. (Bad section of chip?) You're right, I think that early versions had a mod to the drivers to allow it to work (early softmodding), but that required that the actual T&L engine on the chipset be present and working.
The "full" original Radeon became the 7200, and then the 7500 came later.

So, while the 7000 may be softmoddable to enable the T&L, officially, it is lacking it. Note, no "Charisma Engine", nor mention of T&L features: link

 

[Peter]

As later driver releases apparently just went to use hardware T&L on the 7000, the conclusion at the time was that the crippling was in the original driver set, not the hardware.

 

[Grafik]

anyone have experience with a radeon 9600 pro? was looking to pick one up about $95 on newegg now - play mostly CS and BF, i think it should run decently? i'm using radeon 7600 now it runs nicely as it is but i am donating it to my bro's comp - any suggestions/comments?

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
well, we'd prolly just be playing age of mythology, warcraft 3, and i was really curious to see if unreal 2k4 would be playable on the system

It probably will be with dumbed down settings, it plays on my MX420 at work.. albeit not amazing, but decent FPS at lower res.