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Robor

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If there's any truth to that story then ATI will have a clear advantage with DX9 games until the next generation of cards. Of course, there's not that many DX9 games out right now so does it really make a difference? I sure wouldn't buy a ATI card based on Half-Life 2 when it's still months away.
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Well... it has to be highly programmable cause it's not designed to run DX9 software. Kinda like running a Windows emulator in Linux so you can use Windows apps.
That's not true. They're just designed to run DX9 at either 16 or 32 bit precision. MS decided to use 24 bit, as did ATI.

I bet alien886 posts "Why won't the PLO leave Palestine?" polls on Middle Eastern bbs, and "Why do abortion Dr.s kill babies" on Planned Parenthood bbs. Sigh.

NOW it is... but when it was first conjured up it wasn't... there was no such thing as DX9 when nVidia started development of the GeForce FX GPU.
 

MichaelZ

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Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: i82lazyboy
how to produce spam tutorial:

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voila.

That made no sense.
 

cm123

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Originally posted by: VIAN
Hah, AMD all the way.

Anyway, ATi seems to have guaranteed performance over nVIDIA, but there are also compatability issues that ATi cards face that do drop a lot of games off of their shelf.

I chose nVIDIA.


You are so right! As a whole it seems more people have hardware issues with ATI still as well including things like disabling bios settings, of course NOT to say Nvidia is perfect neither.

I myself would love to see another GPU company step up and give some worries to Nvidia & ATI for awhile. Why is it anyway Matrox can not drum up better technology?
 

Regs

Lifer
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I have more reason to believe that if there is a compatibility issue, it would be more because of mobo chipsets than the games themselves.

Because I have not had one issue that you people speak of.
 

Quixfire

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We win, because competition is good for the consumer. ATI may be on top now, as was Nvidia and 3Dfx before but things will change. As these companies pursue our dollar by delivering the best they have to offer the products can only get better.
 

MichaelZ

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Originally posted by: Regs
I have more reason to believe that if there is a compatibility issue, it would be more because of mobo chipsets than the games themselves.

maybe that's because you're an ATI fanboy whom, can't seem to perform the simple task of hyperlinking his own rig?
 

alien886

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Originally posted by: Rollo
I am justing curious about what the majority (over 40 pollers counts as a statistically accurate sample>>> a representative sample) of Anandtech forum members prefer for video cards
Why don't you explain why you think this?

It's not a very good question for several reasons:
1. This topic has been discussed to death already. If you're "curious" as you say you are, why not just read the multitude of threads already existing?
2. "who wins" what? Gaming? What games? What settings? Productivity software?
3. What constitutes "winning"? Being 5% faster at some game at some setting?

This thread is flamebait.

1. No thanks
2. Gaming or in general. You can vote or state your opinion in general (i.e. a person prefers ati or "radeon" more than or nVidia, or vise versa).
3. Winning is just a hyped up word of saying "preference." So, if you want to analyze the meaning of winning, just replace the "wins" with "do you prefer" in my original post.

BTW, so far there hasn't been any flaming...
 

JJN

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LMAO
I saw this thread when it had 0 replies and I hoped and prayed no one would reply to it. Goes to show that if you constantly reply to your own message and a couple people flame you for posting it you can have a 30+ thread in no time.

BTW- Their are 20+ threads just like this, on this forum, that have already been debated, plz read those next time.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: i82lazyboy
Originally posted by: Regs
I have more reason to believe that if there is a compatibility issue, it would be more because of mobo chipsets than the games themselves.

maybe that's because you're an ATI fanboy whom, can't seem to perform the simple task of hyperlinking his own rig?
That's a funny statement from someone who's got "lazyboy" in their handle!
 

Genx87

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well, why do nVidia cards have low 3d benchmarks on Half-Life 2 then?


Where can I pickup a copy of HL2?

So you're saying that PC Game Publishers like Valve scam us into thinking that we should buy a specific video card manufacturer over another (i.e. in this case, Radeon over nVidia for the Half-Life 2 game).

Did you even read about shady days? That was such a paid marketing blitz it wasnt even funny.

A. Valve presented a chart with the best bang for the buck
B. ATI employees kicked off hand tuned demos. You know all those benchmarks we see on Anand and Toms hardware werent run by any of those sites. They just asked an ATI employee to kickoff a demo and they got to record the results. They werent even allowed to touch the hardware.
C. And I believe Valve was using a build of their engine that hadnt been updated since May.

That was the lowest thing I have seen yet in the computer industry.

I am justing curious about what the majority (over 40 pollers counts as a statistically accurate sample>>> a representative sample) of Anandtech forum members prefer for video cards. Thats all I am doing... I am just curious for crying out loud. I am NOT trying to convince ANYONE that one is better than the other (Radeon nor nVidia). Relax people, jeesh!


Sure you are lolololololol

Now go back to Aol
 

nRollo

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You still haven't explained why you think a sample of 40 people is statistically significant in this population alien886. I want to see if you even know what statistics ARE.

I think you're just a kid who bought a 9800 Pro and wants to see soem people tell you that you made the right choice, or see an ATI circle jerk.

I have a 9800Pro as well, and they're good cards, but the latest drivers are bringing nVidia a long way toward parity. There isn't a good answer to your question, because it depends on too many variables. What OS/what settings/what game/whether OGl,D3d,software/what do you consider "better" enough to be a difference (e.g. 90 vs 100 fps)/ DX9 PS 2.0 or not/etc ad infinitum.

So like I said, it's a worthless flamebait post. You could have just read any of the half million or so threads on this topic all over the web, but you wanted to brag about having a 9800 Pro. Big deal. They cost $240 now, anyone with a paper route can have one.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: shady06
radeon vs nvidia?

how bout Ati vs nvidia

Was going to say...nVidia is a company, as is Matrox. Radeon is a product, made by a company called ATi.

Ok, that's all. Flame on.

Oh yeah - I own an ATi card and an nVidia card. My parent's PC's - ATi in one, nVidia in the other. :Q
 

Pete

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Oct 10, 1999
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Radeon vs. Nvidia, who wins?
Only the trolls.

Because the GeForce FX was designed before the DX9 standard was established and because nVidia had already invested millions in designing it, the couldn't scrap it and start over to conform to the DX standards. I've read in a few places that nVidia approached MS and told them a new programming language would be needed for the future of video cards and MS decided it wasn't time yet, so nVidia went to work on their own language called CG... then supposedly ATI approached MS and asked for the same thing, a new language, so MS create DX9. And it just so happens that CG and DX9 are very different. And since the GeForce FX is designed to work with CG, and ATI's cards are designed to work with DX9 and adhere to DX9 specs exactly, they perform better. Imagine that!
Ugh....

Maybe because Valve worked solely with ATI???
Where did you get this from?

That was the lowest thing I have seen yet in the computer industry.
No mention of the Doom 3 benchmarks?
 

rbV5

Lifer
Dec 10, 2000
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Share your opinion: nVidia or Radeon?

My ATI Radeon graphics board is working fine my NVIDIA chipset motherboard. Overall, the Radeon has been a little more reliable due me to killing the ASUS board with a bios flash (fixed it with another ASUS board, both are running fine) and the somewhat buggy NForce audio and IDE drivers.

My overall opinion: Another idiotic, self serving, my dogs better than your dog thread in the video forum that serves no purpose other than to justify your recent videocard purchase. Statements like
(over 40 pollers counts as a statistically accurate sample>>> a representative sample) of Anandtech forum members prefer for video cards.
on a forum with 125,736 members pretty much sum up how utterlly ridiculous this thread is, the lack of any "real" flaming illustrates how tiring these threads have become.

OK we get it, you bought a 9800pro and you like it, how about STFU and go play some games.
 

alien886

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Originally posted by: Rollo
You still haven't explained why you think a sample of 40 people is statistically significant in this population alien886. I want to see if you even know what statistics ARE.

I think you're just a kid who bought a 9800 Pro and wants to see soem people tell you that you made the right choice, or see an ATI circle jerk.

I think you judge people before you even know them. No I am not some "jerk" or ass-hole, who is too-rich and too self-centered to think outside the "ATI circle." I did research, learned about video card performance, and went out on limb (a very expensive one) to buy a high-end video card (ATI Radeon 9800 Pro). If I never mentioned the 9800 Pro, which I ONLY mentioned in my signature, you can't conclude that I even bought a 9800 Pro.

Yes, I have taken College Course called "Statistics," and I have learned that 40 is the "magic number," if you will, where n is greater or equal to 40 (number of people in a given sample) the figure is statisically signficant. Thus, my intentions of this poll, or the combination of the poll and the forum topic and its posts, are to discover the majority preference of video cards (likely to be ATI or nVidia). The majority involves a sample of Anandtech forum members (this is not a majority preference of the whole population, i.e. all computer users in the U.S. or all computer users in the whole world- probably because this is nearly impossible).
 
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