RAID-0

[Gamingphreek]

I am going to be doing a RAID 0 configuration with 2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7's @ 120gig each (240 total).

I have a concern however. The drive with the NCQ is 20 bucks cheaper. As far as i know NCQ shouldn't make a difference, but they are 2 different drives. Should i still get the NCQ model, or just buy elsewhere for the exact same model.

As for the HDD i have heard that the new model with NCQ is marginally louder than the older model. My computer is in my room. Would adding another HDD significantly increase heat and noise?

Before everyone starts asking why im doing RAID (I would do the same thing) im not expecting any huge performance increases or anything. I am merely doing it for the experience, and for fun. Whatever added performance i get noticable or not is just an added bonus. Additionally windows is pleading for a reinstall so i figured if i am going to do this, now is the time; because windows is not being reinstalled until late fall after that.

-Kevin

 

[rforum]

I have a RAID 0 setup and chose to use identical hard drives. I believe this is the preferred method for best performance and to eliminate wasted space.

 

[LanFear]

If you have a tight case you shouldn't notice that much extra noise. Heat, yeah a little, make sure your cooling solution is ok. If you have the room, space the hard drives out for a little extra breathing room.

 

[Jiggz]

Obviously, two drives will generate more noise than a single drive. The same holds true with the heat. But both of these will be negligible since modern drives are silent and more resilient to heat. What matters is that they are of the same size and speed so no space is wasted.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Well right now it is in a chieftec dragon case. However this fall it will be in an Antec P180 case. Cooling is fine everywhere so i guess it shouldn't affect my room too much.

What about the NCQ?

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

bump.... does anyone know if i can use a later version of the drive (ie SATAII support and NCQ support), but still the same size in a RAID 0 array... would like to order tonight.

-Kevin

 

[6000SUX]

Yes, you for sure can.

 

[Gamingphreek]

The other features will have no impact. What if i decide later to enable NCQ (Ie get an Nforce 4 board)? Will that not work, or can i not do that in RAID anyhow?

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

bump

 

[MobiusPizza]

I highly recommend using the Western Digital RAID Edition for doing RAID 0 setups

As for NCQ... no idea
I've seen it doing more bad than good
Might as well just leave it

 

[Gamingphreek]

I am not selling my current HDD in favour of a marketing ploy, sorry.

NCQ is meant for multi-tasking, as it ques the tasks in order per se (so i doesn't rotate completely around multiple times to getr data)... So in the future i might want to use it. Can someone help me out here?

-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

bump

 

[LanFear]

I think you need to read this article http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=734

 

[fstime]

Hi, I hear NCQ results in performance lose since all it does it orginize data.

I have the .7's and I love them

Silent.

If your going to raid, use the same models.

I'd get the 8's because its a newer generation. NCQ can be disabled and its $20 less and newer version.



2x $20 = $40.

This is my advice.

Get a nice 300 or 400 gb Seagate 7200.8.

My opinion on riad is this.

If you have 3 or more hard drives, its great.

You can raid 0 2 drives, make them one big drive and use the other for backup.

If you have 2 or less drives, its pointless, your better off with a backup.

So far, everyone has told me raid is unstable blah blah..

I've been using raid-0 for around 6 months without problems.

I am actually raiding two old hard drives.

One is a WD 5200rpm drive. The other a Maxtor 5200 rpm drive.

Onboard motherboard raid.

My 2 cents.

EDIT:

Also very importent.

Lets say your motherboard has on board raid like me.

If you decide to move the 2 raid-0 hard drives to another motherboard/system, POOF, I dont think you can access your data then.

 

[Gamingphreek]

One last bump. I have a mere 20gig left of free space and am going to order.

From what i gather i RAID-0 a 7200.7 (120Gig) and a 7200.8 (120gig) as long as the size remains constant.

Another question, when i get the new HDD, and i go into the RAID bios and tell it to do a striping array, will that erase all data on the drive first?

-Kevin

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX
I highly recommend using the Western Digital RAID Edition for doing RAID 0 setups

for a comment like this, we need a link to backup what you are saying. should i get the abit fatal1ty board just because i like to game? come on...

 

[trader869]

Yes,whenever you create a new array you will wipe all your data....same thing as formatting. And yes you are correct....you can use both of those drives. they dont have to be the same size, you can use a 120 and a 160,but you'll still end up with 240G either way. Its best to match the drives for performance, but it wouldnt be much so I wouldnt worry about that.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Cool i think i will order another seagate drive tonight.

-Kevin

 

[BOLt]

Originally posted by: rforum
I have a RAID 0 setup and chose to use identical hard drives. I believe this is the preferred method for best performance and to eliminate wasted space.

Yep.

Originally posted by: Jiggz
Obviously, two drives will generate more noise than a single drive. The same holds true with the heat. But both of these will be negligible since modern drives are silent and more resilient to heat. What matters is that they are of the same size and speed so no space is wasted.

Yep.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I am not selling my current HDD in favour of a marketing ploy, sorry.

NCQ is meant for multi-tasking, as it ques the tasks in order per se (so i doesn't rotate completely around multiple times to getr data)... So in the future i might want to use it. Can someone help me out here?

-Kevin

Right.

Originally posted by: trader869
Yes,whenever you create a new array you will wipe all your data....same thing as formatting. And yes you are correct....you can use both of those drives. they dont have to be the same size, you can use a 120 and a 160,but you'll still end up with 240G either way. Its best to match the drives for performance, but it wouldnt be much so I wouldnt worry about that.

Yes, but 2 RAID 0 HDDs will only have the space of one (ie you'll have 120GB, not 240).

You will lose all data on the HDD when you initialize the RAID 0 pattern.

Keep on truckin'.

 

[trader869]

WTH are you talking about?? If you Raid0 two 120G drives , you'll end up with 240G ...NOT 120G! WOW!! You really need to read up on the subject,or do it yourself once...lame. Raid1 of two 120's would equal 120G, Raid0 two 120's you double to 240G.

 

[d2arcturus]

Originally posted by: BOLt
Yes, but 2 RAID 0 HDDs will only have the space of one (ie you'll have 120GB, not 240).

:thumbsdown:

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: BOLt
Yes, but 2 RAID 0 HDDs will only have the space of one (ie you'll have 120GB, not 240).

You will lose all data on the HDD when you initialize the RAID 0 pattern.

Keep on truckin'.

you are thinking of raid 1, mirroring, not 0 which is striping which does double the hdd space. do a little research before you make such a statement.

 

[aka1nas]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
One last bump. I have a mere 20gig left of free space and am going to order.

From what i gather i RAID-0 a 7200.7 (120Gig) and a 7200.8 (120gig) as long as the size remains constant.

Another question, when i get the new HDD, and i go into the RAID bios and tell it to do a striping array, will that erase all data on the drive first?

-Kevin

According to that Bjorn3d article someone linked to above, both of those drive models can support NCQ and the 7200.8s only start at 200GB. Could you possibly have a pair of 7200.7s, one with NCQ and one without?

Edit: NM I didn't see that part in your first post

 

[ValuedCustomer]

Originally posted by: BOLt

Yes, but 2 RAID 0 HDDs will only have the space of one (ie you'll have 120GB, not 240).

You will lose all data on the HDD when you initialize the RAID 0 pattern.

Keep on truckin'.

funny cuz I was thinkin' the same thing.. but now that I think about it, trader869 is correct. definitly seems like a spaz but he's correct all the same.

 

[ValuedCustomer]

Let's all be fair here.. anyone not a little confused sometimes w/ the RAID classifications prolly needs to get a life.