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[Bumrush99]

:thumbsup:

 

[LordMagnusKain]

time to move to the next step:

Denial
Anger
Bargaining<----
Depression
Acceptance


how about you north-easterners join Canada? you and French Canada can be one negations, we'll take English-speaking Canada, and kalifornia can break away.

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
time to move to the next step:

Denial
Anger
Bargaining<----
Depression
Acceptance


how about you north-easterners join Canada? you and French Canada can be one negations, we'll take English-speaking Canada, and kalifornia can break away.

You can have Alberta. Most other Provinces are at least Blueish, by our own standards. I I think I read somewhere that even most Albertans supported Kerry (Probably because of Bush's protectionist trade practices, which have hurt the West more than the east).

And may I say that we don't want them? Why the hell would we want Hollywood? We have laws designed to protect us from those freaks. We might take Maine, or Washington. Those places are pretty cool. Culturally, they are pretty close to their northern neighbours, from what I've seen of 'em. You can keep Cali and NY, though. Hmmm. . . maybe we should have the government write up a list of acceptable blue states. Hey, maybe I could convince them to let me write it.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Perknose
So, Train, despite Genx87's bald faced statement, "Bunch of conjecture in there.", it turns out that Zebo's contention was solidly based in fact.

Well, I'm convinced. I guess the entire NE region should just secede from the rest of the uncivilized part of the nation. I mean, they have been carrying us on their backs for *so* long, they deserve a break. And I'm sure Nebraska and the other farming states will be willing to sell you guys some food at very *reasonable* prices. And good luck building those 3.6 million sqft. automobile plants in downtown New York. Oh, that's right, you guys are all going to give up oil and ride around on bicycles and Segways. :thumbsup:

See ya soon!

Well, I live in a blue state and I already ride my mountain bike everywhere, we have ties with other thinking people in California so I'm sure we'll be able to get food

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Ldir
:thumbsup: .

It must go back to the days of slavery. Southerners think they are entitled to live off of others labor.

As if the North wasn't doing exactly that? Where do you think the yankees got their cotton from?

Fvcking dipshits.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The Northeastners better realize they are up against not just Southerners alone, it's a Religious movement.

Before the Election all of the Churches here were preaching for all parishioners to make sure they vote for Bush. Last weekend they are all praising the congregations for moving the Country along for the "Church" agenda.

Most "Liberals" (that's what anyone that didn't vote for Bush are called) I have taked to since are in Denial that it was a Religious vote that throttled Kerry. A few are starting to realize it.

I think it is starting to sink in that the U.S. is now firmly entrenched in a Holy War right here and now.

I honestly don't see that is happening right now. Maybe young adults older than myself have begun to get back into religion..but among most of the kids I see, that are my age, there is no religious movement.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Vic

The solution to this is simple btw. The Blue States need to lead a tax revolt. The city people and the Democrats, instead of being pro-tax as they have been, need to switch back to anti-tax and quit being the Red States' cash cow. And as the Pubs have already coded in (via marketing) the idea that "tax cuts" are the same as "moral issues", they would get slaughtered.

dems should talk lower taxes problem is repulican spend so much money when they are in office they are forced to take up reponsibility and actually pay for it once they get there. This is why I hope for repulican rule for a long time. at least to '12 to fix thier own problems at a serious political price.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: TravisT
Another bitter, yet stupid, response from a Kerry fan.... *yawn*

This is becoming a routine....

To be honest, i'm really tired of hearing about how "stupid" the South is. Obviously, we make up the majority of the country. If you guys hope toh ave a glimpse of a chance at turning things your way, it would be in your best interest not to criticize the people that have faith..... It is only turning me and every other person off to the lefts agenda.

If these kinds of things continue, you will see even a bigger landslide next term in favor of the Republicans.

hey brainiac, can you refute the op's points or should we just give you a cookie? if you can't that you obviously do belong to the retarded...errrrr faithfull south.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Perknose
So, Train, despite Genx87's bald faced statement, "Bunch of conjecture in there.", it turns out that Zebo's contention was solidly based in fact.

Well, I'm convinced. I guess the entire NE region should just secede from the rest of the uncivilized part of the nation. I mean, they have been carrying us on their backs for *so* long, they deserve a break. And I'm sure Nebraska and the other farming states will be willing to sell you guys some food at very *reasonable* prices. And good luck building those 3.6 million sqft. automobile plants in downtown New York. Oh, that's right, you guys are all going to give up oil and ride around on bicycles and Segways. :thumbsup:

See ya soon!

The only reason the red states call sell us food at all is we support them with 70 years of price supports and farm subsidies. We can pay those to south americans just as easily instead of redistribution of wealth from blue to red.

BTW CA, IL, and PA can generate all our food needs just fine considering they are in the top 5 without sucking governemnt teat. They are smart enough not to build farms on swampland and hurricane alley.

 

[gutharius]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Btw your link doesnt appear to work.

26.3% of the production possibly. But what % of the United States population lives in the blue states?

You assume we as americans eat 100% of the food we grow. We as americans are not that fat. And you assume wrong. Most of our agricultural production is shipped over seas to China, Japan and Asia in general.

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Btw your link doesnt appear to work.

26.3% of the production possibly. But what % of the United States population lives in the blue states?

Hypocrite alert. First you complain that per-capita numbers (on Federal spending) are skewed, now you complain that gross numbers on production are skewed. Which is it?

 

[gutharius]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Zebo
Fusk the South. Fusk 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

Stopped reading right there. This author is ignorant...period. The South fought for states' rights....the same thing so many of you "libertarians" are also shrieking for. Slavery was on the way out regardless.

Thanks, Zebo, for sharing with us this guy's ignorance. I hope it was cathartic or something and you managed to save on your weekly therapy bill.

If slavery was on the way out then why leave the Union and the resulting Civil War? If slavery and as a consequence lack of civil liberties for blacks was on the way out then why Strom Thurmond and the KKK? (All of which are part of Southern ideology and originate in Southern history).

And no the author is not ignorant, he is ANGRY, his point however is true and based on fact. We all have the right to express our emotions without being called ignorant by those that claim they practice compassion but never do and would benefit enormously if they simply did.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: ForThePeople
Just thought that I'd give some more data to answer the question about where the blue states would get their food. Simple answer? We already make it....

From the Department of Agriculture website at http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/F...e/50State/50stmenu.htm

"Net returns to operators earned from the production of goods and services in the agricultural sector" which means farm output, ie who produces the most.

1) California - 13.9%
2) Texas - 6.63%
3) Iowa - 5.3%
4) North Carolina - 4.8%
5) Florida - 4.2%

The next states, in order but without percentages, are:

Illinois
Nebraska
Minnesota
Georgia
Washington

What is interesting is that if you take California, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Washington (all blue states) - you get 26.3% of all US production.

We'd be self-sufficient. Just like we are with our tax dollars while you cheap-labor conservatives suck down government money as fast as you can get your hands on it. What was that line of yours about being "self-reliant?"

I said this in some other clown's rant about how we wouldn't be able to eat without the red states. Um yeah...us Californian's already knew we were # 1 in agriculture. People joke about wanting the CA to break off from the rest of the US. You fvckers need us a whole hell of a lot more than we need you.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Genx87
Btw your link doesnt appear to work.

26.3% of the production possibly. But what % of the United States population lives in the blue states?

Hypocrite alert. First you complain that per-capita numbers (on Federal spending) are skewed, now you complain that gross numbers on production are skewed. Which is it?

This guy is trying desperately to spin the #'s again and again. Stop using semantics Gen, it's clear as day. Isn't that a Republican pov? How about you fvckers pull yourself up by the boostrap and stop taking my handouts?

 

[gutharius]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The Northeastners better realize they are up against not just Southerners alone, it's a Religious movement.

Before the Election all of the Churches here were preaching for all parishioners to make sure they vote for Bush. Last weekend they are all praising the congregations for moving the Country along for the "Church" agenda.

Most "Liberals" (that's what anyone that didn't vote for Bush are called) I have taked to since are in Denial that it was a Religious vote that throttled Kerry. A few are starting to realize it.

I think it is starting to sink in that the U.S. is now firmly entrenched in a Holy War right here and now.

I honestly don't see that is happening right now. Maybe young adults older than myself have begun to get back into religion..but among most of the kids I see, that are my age, there is no religious movement.

Its not a cultural religious movement it is Political Religious movement in a nation that is supposed to have a government that is seperate from the church..

 

[gutharius]

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Genx87
Btw your link doesnt appear to work.

26.3% of the production possibly. But what % of the United States population lives in the blue states?

Hypocrite alert. First you complain that per-capita numbers (on Federal spending) are skewed, now you complain that gross numbers on production are skewed. Which is it?

This guy is trying desperately to spin the #'s again and again. Stop using semantics Gen, it's clear as day. Isn't that a Republican pov? How about you fvckers pull yourself up by the boostrap and stop taking my handouts?

Forget about the handouts start pulling your d@mn weight! When a third of the states do 2/3rds the work something is wrong with the states who claim they are the right and real americans.

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Genx87
Btw your link doesnt appear to work.

26.3% of the production possibly. But what % of the United States population lives in the blue states?

Hypocrite alert. First you complain that per-capita numbers (on Federal spending) are skewed, now you complain that gross numbers on production are skewed. Which is it?

This guy is trying desperately to spin the #'s again and again. Stop using semantics Gen, it's clear as day. Isn't that a Republican pov? How about you fvckers pull yourself up by the boostrap and stop taking my handouts?

Pull themselves up by their bootstraps ...doubtful they could spell it.

http://www.nea.org/edstats/images/teachersalary.jpg

I guess those vaunted moral values dont include paying possibly some of the most important people in your childs life. hmm.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Genx87
Btw your link doesnt appear to work.

26.3% of the production possibly. But what % of the United States population lives in the blue states?

Hypocrite alert. First you complain that per-capita numbers (on Federal spending) are skewed, now you complain that gross numbers on production are skewed. Which is it?

This guy is trying desperately to spin the #'s again and again. Stop using semantics Gen, it's clear as day. Isn't that a Republican pov? How about you fvckers pull yourself up by the boostrap and stop taking my handouts?

Pull themselves up by their bootstraps ...doubtful they could spell it.

http://www.nea.org/edstats/images/teachersalary.jpg

I guess those vaunted moral values dont include paying possibly some of the most important people in your childs life. hmm.

Lets see those numbers with cost of living factored in. 54k in california aint much.

 

[charrison]

Some more infomation on the top and bottom 10 for federal spending.

top 10
1. D.C. ($6.17)
no representation

2. North Dakota ($2.03) --RED
Senators 2 dem
Congress 1 DEM C
Solid blue

3. New Mexico ($1.89) -- RED
Senators 2R
Congress 1 dem 1 rep
RedBlue


4. Mississippi ($1.84) -- RED
2 R
2 R 1D
Solid Red

5. Alaska ($1.82) -- RED
Sendate 2 R
Congress 1R
Solid Red

6. West Virginia ($1.74) - RED
Senate 2D king of pork resides here(Byrd)
Congress2D 1 R
BlueRed

7. Montana ($1.64) --RED
Senate 1 D 1 R
Congress 1R
RedBlue

8. Alabama ($1.61) --RED
Senate 2 R
Senate 5R 2 D

RedBlue


9. South Dakota ($1.59) --RED
Senate 2D include former minority leader
Congress 1D

Solid blue

10. Arkansas ($1.53) -- RED
1 D 1 R
3D 1R
BlueRed

9 "Red States"
2 Solid Blue
2 Solid Red
3 Red Blue
2 Blue Red

All parties equally guilty



bottom 10
1. New Jersey ($0.62) --BLUE
Senate 2 D
Congress 7D 6R
Blue Red

2. Connecticut ($0.64) --BLUE
Senate 2D
Congress 2D 3 R
Blue Red

3. New Hampshire ($0.68) --BLUE
Senate 2R
Congress 2R
Solid RED

4. Nevada ($0.73) --RED
Senate 2D
Congress 1D 2R
BlueRed

5. Illinois ($0.77) --BLUE
Senate 1D 1 R
Congress 9D 9R
Purple

6. Minnesota ($0.77) --BLUE
Senate 1d 1 R
Congress 4R 4D
Purple

7. Colorado ($0.79) --RED
Senate 2 R
Congress 2D 5R
Red Blue

8. Massachusetts ($0.79) --BLUE
Senate 2D
Congress 10 D
Solid Blue

9. California ($0.81) --BLUE
Senate 2D
Congress 33D 20R
BlueRed

10. New York ($0.81) --BLUE
Senate 2D
Congress 19D 10R
BlueRed

2 purple
1 Solid Red
1 Solid Blue
5 Blue Red
1 Red Blue

Slight edge to Blue states, but not much of one.

The interesting thing about this is that the bottom states have far more representation that the top states.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: KevinH

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: Genx87
Btw your link doesnt appear to work.

26.3% of the production possibly. But what % of the United States population lives in the blue states?

Hypocrite alert. First you complain that per-capita numbers (on Federal spending) are skewed, now you complain that gross numbers on production are skewed. Which is it?

This guy is trying desperately to spin the #'s again and again. Stop using semantics Gen, it's clear as day. Isn't that a Republican pov? How about you fvckers pull yourself up by the boostrap and stop taking my handouts?

Pull themselves up by their bootstraps ...doubtful they could spell it.

http://www.nea.org/edstats/images/teachersalary.jpg

I guess those vaunted moral values dont include paying possibly some of the most important people in your childs life. hmm.

Lets see those numbers with cost of living factored in. 54k in california aint much.

No doubt, in the south, the COL is much lower than in places like new england and california.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: gutharius

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
The Northeastners better realize they are up against not just Southerners alone, it's a Religious movement.

Before the Election all of the Churches here were preaching for all parishioners to make sure they vote for Bush. Last weekend they are all praising the congregations for moving the Country along for the "Church" agenda.

Most "Liberals" (that's what anyone that didn't vote for Bush are called) I have taked to since are in Denial that it was a Religious vote that throttled Kerry. A few are starting to realize it.

I think it is starting to sink in that the U.S. is now firmly entrenched in a Holy War right here and now.

I honestly don't see that is happening right now. Maybe young adults older than myself have begun to get back into religion..but among most of the kids I see, that are my age, there is no religious movement.

Its not a cultural religious movement it is Political Religious movement in a nation that is supposed to have a government that is seperate from the church..

That isn't exactly what dmcowen was talking about (afaik?).

 

[VTrider]

Originally posted by: Zebo


Which state do you think has the lowest divorce rate you marriage-hyping dickwads? Well? Can you guess? It's fusking Massachusetts, the fusking center of the gay marriage universe. Yes, that's right, the state you want to tie around the neck of anyone to the left of Strom Thurmond has the lowest divorce rate in the fusking nation. Think that's just some aberration? How about this: 9 of the 10 lowest divorce rates are fusking blue states, asshole, and most are in the Northeast, where our values suck so bad. And where are the highest divorce rates? Care to fusking guess? 10 of the top 10 are fusking red-ass we're-so-fusking-moral states. And while Nevada is the worst, the Bible Belt is doing its fusking part.

Can somebody who lives in a red state (prefrebly christian conservative) please address this? I mean, 2 whole pages of replies and nothing about this yet? I mean, Zebo has an excellent point there. I guess Zebo is on to all you hypocrytes, nothing to say in your defense, eh?

 

[StageLeft]

Very smart. Very classy and well written!!

 

[Zebo]

http://www.fuckthesouth.com

Take your liberal-bashing, federal-tax-leaching, confederate-flag-waving, holier-than-thou, hypocritical bullshit and shove it up your ass.

 

[VTrider]

Zebo I'd buy you a beer if you were in my town - a nice big liberal pint of real New England beer! :beer: