Recent Palestinian Suicide Bombings

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Aimster ... These bombers .. have NOTHING. poor families, growing up watching a foreign land come into your town with tanks and destroy houses and set up rules and check points. Your freedom taken away. What do you expect. ......You all keep mentioning how many suicide bombings there have been since 2000 .. well how many people have died just for throwing rocks? How many people have died just for breaking curfew. Did you know if a Palestinian wants to go grocery shopping and Israel has a curfew in that area they will most likley shoot you simply for violating the curfew. Like I said read that book and you will get a great idea what is going on there. The author points out both sides and is not bias at all.

- many suicide bombers are actually middle class and have plenty to live for. the most recent bomber was a preacher/cleric in a mosque. - why do parents allow their young children to go throw rocks at tanks? they know rock throwers get shot at with rubber bullets and such so why do they endanger their children? - if they cant go grocery shopping at night, they have two options: shop during the day or stop allowing muderers to hide amongst them and i am sure the curfews would be lifted. israel was all set to hand over four towns in the west bank to PA rule until the bombing two days ago. they had already left two of them. thats called shooting yourself in the foot. the palestinians need to realize that mass murder of israeli civilians will not get them a state of their own.

No it will give them a state because they are commited to this cause. its the Isrealis who are not able to keep up with this conflict complaining ah suicide attack! blah blah blah etc.... I hope they will win this fight because they have suffered so much pain from these racists fools who have the west defanding their backs all the time. Its funny but history repeats itself (romans againts the Christians)

Oh yes guys this has nothing to do with his suject but next week the earth will see plante Mars clearly like the Moon amazing! Do you know about this?

 

[povertystruck]

Cesar is right the jews cant keep up. Arabs are making babies faster, and eventually some arab is going to get a small nuclear or radiological weapon and do some serious damage.


That is why I suggest a separation of the two, not two states. One leaves ones stays.

Perhaps: both sides should have a soccer match who ever wins call the coin toss which determines who gets a piece of land some where in Canada(maybe Vancouver island). The other side gets to keep the piece of crap land that is the source of the problem.

or because the jews probably wont leave maybe the palestinians should. The best place i can think of for the palestinians would be Canada.


Remember the land of dispute is rotten to the core. I understand why the palestinians want to keep the land, but wouldn't they rather live in Canada?

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: povertystruck
Cesar is right the jews cant keep up. Arabs are making babies faster, and eventually some arab is going to get a small nuclear or radiological weapon and do some serious damage. That is why I suggest a separation of the two, not two states. One leaves ones stays. Perhaps: both sides should have a soccer match who ever wins call the coin toss which determines who gets a piece of land some where in Canada(maybe Vancouver island). The other side gets to keep the piece of crap land that is the source of the problem. or because the jews probably wont leave maybe the palestinians should. The best place i can think of for the palestinians would be Canada. Remember the land of dispute is rotten to the core. I understand why the palestinians want to keep the land, but wouldn't they rather live in Canada?

Why can't jews leave Israel and live by there western allies? and give back Israel to arabes, and apologies for everything they did!

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Aimster ... These bombers .. have NOTHING. poor families, growing up watching a foreign land come into your town with tanks and destroy houses and set up rules and check points. Your freedom taken away. What do you expect. ......You all keep mentioning how many suicide bombings there have been since 2000 .. well how many people have died just for throwing rocks? How many people have died just for breaking curfew. Did you know if a Palestinian wants to go grocery shopping and Israel has a curfew in that area they will most likley shoot you simply for violating the curfew. Like I said read that book and you will get a great idea what is going on there. The author points out both sides and is not bias at all.

- many suicide bombers are actually middle class and have plenty to live for. the most recent bomber was a preacher/cleric in a mosque. - why do parents allow their young children to go throw rocks at tanks? they know rock throwers get shot at with rubber bullets and such so why do they endanger their children? - if they cant go grocery shopping at night, they have two options: shop during the day or stop allowing muderers to hide amongst them and i am sure the curfews would be lifted. israel was all set to hand over four towns in the west bank to PA rule until the bombing two days ago. they had already left two of them. thats called shooting yourself in the foot. the palestinians need to realize that mass murder of israeli civilians will not get them a state of their own.

No it will give them a state because they are commited to this cause. its the Isrealis who are not able to keep up with this conflict complaining ah suicide attack! blah blah blah etc.... I hope they will win this fight because they have suffered so much pain from these racists fools who have the west defanding their backs all the time. Its funny but history repeats itself (romans againts the Christians)

Oh yes guys this has nothing to do with his suject but next week the earth will see plante Mars clearly like the Moon amazing! Do you know about this?

dude you are a moron. what does Roman Vs. Christians have to do with anything? Also you might want to read up on your history. I seem to remember not too long ago (1967) that Israel took on 4 countries, Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Isreal kicked thier asses all in 6 days!!! so I really dont think Israel is worried about loosing to a bunch of rock throwing fools who can only blow up themselves and little kids on busses.

 

[povertystruck]

Israeli's could leave, but they are fiananced by jews who live in the U.S. and by the U.S. government (I think 2-3 billion annually). So they are paid to stay and expand. If the jews moved to Canada, they would lose alot of money. If the palestinians moved to Canada they would only gain. Zionists want to expand into part of Iraq and I think Iran.

This conflict is clouding America's eyes to the more serious problems of the world. I say more serious because this conflict has a simple solution give the palestinians some land in Canada. What do you do about North Korea? I really dont know, but money is not the solution there.

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Aimster ... These bombers .. have NOTHING. poor families, growing up watching a foreign land come into your town with tanks and destroy houses and set up rules and check points. Your freedom taken away. What do you expect. ......You all keep mentioning how many suicide bombings there have been since 2000 .. well how many people have died just for throwing rocks? How many people have died just for breaking curfew. Did you know if a Palestinian wants to go grocery shopping and Israel has a curfew in that area they will most likley shoot you simply for violating the curfew. Like I said read that book and you will get a great idea what is going on there. The author points out both sides and is not bias at all.

- many suicide bombers are actually middle class and have plenty to live for. the most recent bomber was a preacher/cleric in a mosque. - why do parents allow their young children to go throw rocks at tanks? they know rock throwers get shot at with rubber bullets and such so why do they endanger their children? - if they cant go grocery shopping at night, they have two options: shop during the day or stop allowing muderers to hide amongst them and i am sure the curfews would be lifted. israel was all set to hand over four towns in the west bank to PA rule until the bombing two days ago. they had already left two of them. thats called shooting yourself in the foot. the palestinians need to realize that mass murder of israeli civilians will not get them a state of their own.

No it will give them a state because they are commited to this cause. its the Isrealis who are not able to keep up with this conflict complaining ah suicide attack! blah blah blah etc.... I hope they will win this fight because they have suffered so much pain from these racists fools who have the west defanding their backs all the time. Its funny but history repeats itself (romans againts the Christians) Oh yes guys this has nothing to do with his suject but next week the earth will see plante Mars clearly like the Moon amazing! Do you know about this?

dude you are a moron. what does Roman Vs. Christians have to do with anything? Also you might want to read up on your history. I seem to remember not too long ago (1967) that Israel took on 4 countries, Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Isreal kicked thier asses all in 6 days!!! so I really dont think Israel is worried about loosing to a bunch of rock throwing fools who can only blow up themselves and little kids on busses.

I mean, it has the same meaning( Romans the powerful againts Christians the weak) who won voala! The 1967 war was not a real war, all of these country were not fighting that seriously. Western country were putting pressure on these countries to stop the war or else and one more thing Egypt almost erased Israel in 1967 when they took back the sinna then the US came to the rescue by threating Egypt to use Nuclear weapons if it continues it's assault on Isreal so it's you you don't know sh!t

 

[0roo0roo]

Israeli's could leave, but they are fiananced by jews who live in the U.S. and by the U.S. government (I think 2-3 billion annually). So they are paid to stay and expand. If the jews moved to Canada, they would lose alot of money. If the palestinians moved to Canada they would only gain. Zionists want to expand into part of Iraq and I think Iran.

you must be joking. israel has no where to go in the region. the palestinians were part of syria, or wanted to be. they can go to jordan where there are already other palestinians or syria or any other of the arab countries to be with their fellow arabs. the palestinians are losers in war, from ww1-ww2 to all the recent wars. you don't reward aggression and losers in war by letting them win. the palestinians under your scenario would have to move.

Egypt almost erased Israel in 1967 when they took back the sinna then the US came to the rescue by threating Egypt to use Nuclear weapons if it continues it's assault on Isreal so it's you you don't know sh!t

thats some twisted history you have there. the arabs were dead serious about the war and wanted genocide. they commited war crimes by targeting civilians for bombing and bombardment. the US stepped in and stopped the israelis from decimating the egyptian army and possibly invading egypt causing the USSR to step in and cause global war.

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Aimster ... These bombers .. have NOTHING. poor families, growing up watching a foreign land come into your town with tanks and destroy houses and set up rules and check points. Your freedom taken away. What do you expect. ......You all keep mentioning how many suicide bombings there have been since 2000 .. well how many people have died just for throwing rocks? How many people have died just for breaking curfew. Did you know if a Palestinian wants to go grocery shopping and Israel has a curfew in that area they will most likley shoot you simply for violating the curfew. Like I said read that book and you will get a great idea what is going on there. The author points out both sides and is not bias at all.

- many suicide bombers are actually middle class and have plenty to live for. the most recent bomber was a preacher/cleric in a mosque. - why do parents allow their young children to go throw rocks at tanks? they know rock throwers get shot at with rubber bullets and such so why do they endanger their children? - if they cant go grocery shopping at night, they have two options: shop during the day or stop allowing muderers to hide amongst them and i am sure the curfews would be lifted. israel was all set to hand over four towns in the west bank to PA rule until the bombing two days ago. they had already left two of them. thats called shooting yourself in the foot. the palestinians need to realize that mass murder of israeli civilians will not get them a state of their own.

No it will give them a state because they are commited to this cause. its the Isrealis who are not able to keep up with this conflict complaining ah suicide attack! blah blah blah etc.... I hope they will win this fight because they have suffered so much pain from these racists fools who have the west defanding their backs all the time. Its funny but history repeats itself (romans againts the Christians) Oh yes guys this has nothing to do with his suject but next week the earth will see plante Mars clearly like the Moon amazing! Do you know about this?

dude you are a moron. what does Roman Vs. Christians have to do with anything? Also you might want to read up on your history. I seem to remember not too long ago (1967) that Israel took on 4 countries, Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Isreal kicked thier asses all in 6 days!!! so I really dont think Israel is worried about loosing to a bunch of rock throwing fools who can only blow up themselves and little kids on busses.

I mean, it has the same meaning( Romans the powerful againts Christians the weak) who won voala! The 1967 war was not a real war, all of these country were not fighting that seriously. Western country were putting pressure on these countries to stop the war or else and one more thing Egypt almost erased Israel in 1967 when they took back the sinna then the US came to the rescue by threating Egypt to use Nuclear weapons if it continues it's assault on Isreal so it's you you don't know sh!t

FACT - YOU need to read history books. egypt never took back the sinai peninsula. israel GAVE it back to them after bowing to international pressure.

"Having decided to resign yesterday after his country's humiliating defeat, President Abdel Nasser today announced he would in fact remain in office."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/10/newsid_3047000/3047177.stm

FACT - the 1967 war was a real war. egypt, syria, jordan and lebanon DECLARED WAR on israel. iraqi's and kuwaiti's helped as well. israel tripled its size in siz days

FACT - the 1974 was was also a real war. the same countries invaded israel on the holiest day in the jewish year. again, they were beaten. israel actually crossed the suez canal to invade eqypt, bust again agreed to a ceasfire.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_ykwar_course.php

 

[Zebo]

Three Myths of Israel: First, Jews have an unbreakable emotional bond with the land of Israel. Second, anti-semitism is a permanent threat to every Jew. And third, Israel is the Jews? only dependable refuge against that threat.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Aimster ... These bombers .. have NOTHING. poor families, growing up watching a foreign land come into your town with tanks and destroy houses and set up rules and check points. Your freedom taken away. What do you expect. ......You all keep mentioning how many suicide bombings there have been since 2000 .. well how many people have died just for throwing rocks? How many people have died just for breaking curfew. Did you know if a Palestinian wants to go grocery shopping and Israel has a curfew in that area they will most likley shoot you simply for violating the curfew. Like I said read that book and you will get a great idea what is going on there. The author points out both sides and is not bias at all.

- many suicide bombers are actually middle class and have plenty to live for. the most recent bomber was a preacher/cleric in a mosque. - why do parents allow their young children to go throw rocks at tanks? they know rock throwers get shot at with rubber bullets and such so why do they endanger their children? - if they cant go grocery shopping at night, they have two options: shop during the day or stop allowing muderers to hide amongst them and i am sure the curfews would be lifted. israel was all set to hand over four towns in the west bank to PA rule until the bombing two days ago. they had already left two of them. thats called shooting yourself in the foot. the palestinians need to realize that mass murder of israeli civilians will not get them a state of their own.

No it will give them a state because they are commited to this cause. its the Isrealis who are not able to keep up with this conflict complaining ah suicide attack! blah blah blah etc.... I hope they will win this fight because they have suffered so much pain from these racists fools who have the west defanding their backs all the time. Its funny but history repeats itself (romans againts the Christians) Oh yes guys this has nothing to do with his suject but next week the earth will see plante Mars clearly like the Moon amazing! Do you know about this?

dude you are a moron. what does Roman Vs. Christians have to do with anything? Also you might want to read up on your history. I seem to remember not too long ago (1967) that Israel took on 4 countries, Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. Isreal kicked thier asses all in 6 days!!! so I really dont think Israel is worried about loosing to a bunch of rock throwing fools who can only blow up themselves and little kids on busses.

I mean, it has the same meaning( Romans the powerful againts Christians the weak) who won voala! The 1967 war was not a real war, all of these country were not fighting that seriously. Western country were putting pressure on these countries to stop the war or else and one more thing Egypt almost erased Israel in 1967 when they took back the sinna then the US came to the rescue by threating Egypt to use Nuclear weapons if it continues it's assault on Isreal so it's you you don't know sh!t

not a real war? dude it was the largest land battle with armor in history. And YES the Arab countries were dead serious about erasing Isreal off the map.

Here is some Factual History for you.


Quotes from website
"The existence of Israel is an error which must be rectified. This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear -- to wipe Israel off the map." - President Abdur Rahman Aref of Iraq

"There is evidence that Egypt was warned by the US and the Soviet Union in late May 1967 that war should be avoided, but by then the momentum to war was unstoppable.

The Arabs wanted the war, they got one and Israel kicked them back past their borders and claimed some land from each invading country except Iraq.

 

[0roo0roo]

and btw, the egyptian army in sinai was cut off completely. no air defense and was to be picked apart. egyptians should thank the US for preventing total slaughter.

ungrateful ingrates...

the fact that you don't know such a basic fact is frightening. opinions are based on ones collective knowledge, and it seems your opinions are built upon a a house of cards.

the arabs are genocidal.

May 14, 1967: Egypt's President Gamal Nasser demands the withdrawal of United Nations force--established in 1957 as an international "guarantee" of safety for Israel--from the Sinai peninsula. The UN meekly obeys; the United States and Britain fail to rouse the Security Council to take action.

May 15: Three Egyptian army divisions and 600 tanks roll into the Sinai. World community does nothing.

May 17: Cairo Radio's Voice of the Arabs: "All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel."

May 18: Voice of the Arabs announces: "As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence."

May 18: Nasser announces blockade of Straits of Tiran in the Red Sea, severing Israel's southern maritime link to the outside world. Israel considers the closure an act of war. (US President Lyndon Johnson later says: "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed.")

May 20: Syria's defence minister (now president) Hafez el-Assad says: "Our forces are now ready not only to repulse the aggression but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united ..."

May 27: Nasser: "Our basic objection will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight."

May 30: Nasser : "The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel."

May 30: Jordan's King Hussein signs a five-year mutual defence pact with Egypt and the two set up a joint command, making clear its stance in any future conflict.

My 31: Egyptian newspaper Al Akhbar reports: "Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery, co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria, is in a position to cut Israel in two ..."

May 31: Iraqi President Rahman Aref announces: "This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear--to wipe Israel off the map."

June 4: Iraq joins Nasser's military alliance against Israel.

June 5: Six Day War begins: Israeli Airforce attacks airfields in Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq.

June 10: Israel and its enemies accepted UN Security Council cease-fire demands. The war ended, leaving Israel in control of the Sinai peninsula, eastern Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, Judea-Samaria and the Gaza Strip. (The Sinai was returned to Egypt between 1978 and 1982, as part of an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty.)


"Never in human history can an aggressor have made his purpose known in advance so clearly and so widely. Certain of victory, both the Arab leaders and their peoples threw off all restraint. Between the middle of May and fifth of June, world-wide newspapers, radio and, most incisively, television brought home to millions of people the threat of politicide bandied about with relish by the leaders of these modern states. Even more blatant was the exhilaration which the Arabic peoples displayed as the prospect of executing genocide on the people of Israel ... In those three weeks of mounting tension people throughout the world watched and waited in growing anxiety--or in some cases, in hopeful expectation--for the overwhelming forces of at least Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq to bear down from three sides to crush tiny Israel and slaughter her people."
- Samuel Katz, Battleground: Fact and fantasy in Palestine

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/sixdaywar.html



arab governments of course lied to their people saying they were winning even as they lost. eventually leading to a shock when the people realized this. i wonder what twisted history they teach to their children today.

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and btw, the egyptian army in sinai was cut off completely. no air defense and was to be picked apart. egyptians should thank the US for preventing total slaughter. ungrateful ingrates... the fact that you don't know such a basic fact is frightening. opinions are based on ones collective knowledge, and it seems your opinions are built upon a a house of cards. the arabs are genocidal.

May 14, 1967: Egypt's President Gamal Nasser demands the withdrawal of United Nations force--established in 1957 as an international "guarantee" of safety for Israel--from the Sinai peninsula. The UN meekly obeys; the United States and Britain fail to rouse the Security Council to take action. May 15: Three Egyptian army divisions and 600 tanks roll into the Sinai. World community does nothing. May 17: Cairo Radio's Voice of the Arabs: "All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel." May 18: Voice of the Arabs announces: "As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence." May 18: Nasser announces blockade of Straits of Tiran in the Red Sea, severing Israel's southern maritime link to the outside world. Israel considers the closure an act of war. (US President Lyndon Johnson later says: "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed.") May 20: Syria's defence minister (now president) Hafez el-Assad says: "Our forces are now ready not only to repulse the aggression but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united ..." May 27: Nasser: "Our basic objection will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." May 30: Nasser : "The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel." May 30: Jordan's King Hussein signs a five-year mutual defence pact with Egypt and the two set up a joint command, making clear its stance in any future conflict. My 31: Egyptian newspaper Al Akhbar reports: "Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery, co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria, is in a position to cut Israel in two ..." May 31: Iraqi President Rahman Aref announces: "This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear--to wipe Israel off the map." June 4: Iraq joins Nasser's military alliance against Israel. June 5: Six Day War begins: Israeli Airforce attacks airfields in Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. June 10: Israel and its enemies accepted UN Security Council cease-fire demands. The war ended, leaving Israel in control of the Sinai peninsula, eastern Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, Judea-Samaria and the Gaza Strip. (The Sinai was returned to Egypt between 1978 and 1982, as part of an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty.) "Never in human history can an aggressor have made his purpose known in advance so clearly and so widely. Certain of victory, both the Arab leaders and their peoples threw off all restraint. Between the middle of May and fifth of June, world-wide newspapers, radio and, most incisively, television brought home to millions of people the threat of politicide bandied about with relish by the leaders of these modern states. Even more blatant was the exhilaration which the Arabic peoples displayed as the prospect of executing genocide on the people of Israel ... In those three weeks of mounting tension people throughout the world watched and waited in growing anxiety--or in some cases, in hopeful expectation--for the overwhelming forces of at least Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq to bear down from three sides to crush tiny Israel and slaughter her people." - Samuel Katz, Battleground: Fact and fantasy in Palestine

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/sixdaywar.html arab governments of course lied to their people saying they were winning even as they lost. eventually leading to a shock when the people realized this. i wonder what twisted history they teach to their children today.

You guys are so funny your are giving me Israeli and Zionist information. Oh god you guys are so brainwash by those with power i'm sorry to say it!

 

[0roo0roo]

right.. and israeli = lies right?

that the best you can do?


you are deluded.


you going to say the arabs didn't say or do such things? whats your twisted version of revisionist history eh?

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
and btw, the egyptian army in sinai was cut off completely. no air defense and was to be picked apart. egyptians should thank the US for preventing total slaughter. ungrateful ingrates... the fact that you don't know such a basic fact is frightening. opinions are based on ones collective knowledge, and it seems your opinions are built upon a a house of cards. the arabs are genocidal.

May 14, 1967: Egypt's President Gamal Nasser demands the withdrawal of United Nations force--established in 1957 as an international "guarantee" of safety for Israel--from the Sinai peninsula. The UN meekly obeys; the United States and Britain fail to rouse the Security Council to take action. May 15: Three Egyptian army divisions and 600 tanks roll into the Sinai. World community does nothing. May 17: Cairo Radio's Voice of the Arabs: "All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel." May 18: Voice of the Arabs announces: "As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence." May 18: Nasser announces blockade of Straits of Tiran in the Red Sea, severing Israel's southern maritime link to the outside world. Israel considers the closure an act of war. (US President Lyndon Johnson later says: "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed.") May 20: Syria's defence minister (now president) Hafez el-Assad says: "Our forces are now ready not only to repulse the aggression but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united ..." May 27: Nasser: "Our basic objection will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." May 30: Nasser : "The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel." May 30: Jordan's King Hussein signs a five-year mutual defence pact with Egypt and the two set up a joint command, making clear its stance in any future conflict. My 31: Egyptian newspaper Al Akhbar reports: "Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery, co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria, is in a position to cut Israel in two ..." May 31: Iraqi President Rahman Aref announces: "This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear--to wipe Israel off the map." June 4: Iraq joins Nasser's military alliance against Israel. June 5: Six Day War begins: Israeli Airforce attacks airfields in Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. June 10: Israel and its enemies accepted UN Security Council cease-fire demands. The war ended, leaving Israel in control of the Sinai peninsula, eastern Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, Judea-Samaria and the Gaza Strip. (The Sinai was returned to Egypt between 1978 and 1982, as part of an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty.) "Never in human history can an aggressor have made his purpose known in advance so clearly and so widely. Certain of victory, both the Arab leaders and their peoples threw off all restraint. Between the middle of May and fifth of June, world-wide newspapers, radio and, most incisively, television brought home to millions of people the threat of politicide bandied about with relish by the leaders of these modern states. Even more blatant was the exhilaration which the Arabic peoples displayed as the prospect of executing genocide on the people of Israel ... In those three weeks of mounting tension people throughout the world watched and waited in growing anxiety--or in some cases, in hopeful expectation--for the overwhelming forces of at least Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq to bear down from three sides to crush tiny Israel and slaughter her people." - Samuel Katz, Battleground: Fact and fantasy in Palestine

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/sixdaywar.html arab governments of course lied to their people saying they were winning even as they lost. eventually leading to a shock when the people realized this. i wonder what twisted history they teach to their children today.

You guys are so funny your are giving me Israeli and Zionist information. Oh god you guys are so brainwash by those with power i'm sorry to say it!

oh wow!

if you dont believe us, do some research yourself. pick any news site and look up the 1967 war (quasi-war, whatever you want to call it). many times you have bragged how you, living in canada and apparently being of arab decent, are much more informed than us americans are. apparently you are mistaken.

before you reply that i am brainwashed, at least TRY and do a little reading on the subject first.

edit: spelling

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo and btw, the egyptian army in sinai was cut off completely. no air defense and was to be picked apart. egyptians should thank the US for preventing total slaughter. ungrateful ingrates... the fact that you don't know such a basic fact is frightening. opinions are based on ones collective knowledge, and it seems your opinions are built upon a a house of cards. the arabs are genocidal.

May 14, 1967: Egypt's President Gamal Nasser demands the withdrawal of United Nations force--established in 1957 as an international "guarantee" of safety for Israel--from the Sinai peninsula. The UN meekly obeys; the United States and Britain fail to rouse the Security Council to take action. May 15: Three Egyptian army divisions and 600 tanks roll into the Sinai. World community does nothing. May 17: Cairo Radio's Voice of the Arabs: "All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel." May 18: Voice of the Arabs announces: "As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence." May 18: Nasser announces blockade of Straits of Tiran in the Red Sea, severing Israel's southern maritime link to the outside world. Israel considers the closure an act of war. (US President Lyndon Johnson later says: "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed.") May 20: Syria's defence minister (now president) Hafez el-Assad says: "Our forces are now ready not only to repulse the aggression but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united ..." May 27: Nasser: "Our basic objection will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." May 30: Nasser : "The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel." May 30: Jordan's King Hussein signs a five-year mutual defence pact with Egypt and the two set up a joint command, making clear its stance in any future conflict. My 31: Egyptian newspaper Al Akhbar reports: "Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery, co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria, is in a position to cut Israel in two ..." May 31: Iraqi President Rahman Aref announces: "This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear--to wipe Israel off the map." June 4: Iraq joins Nasser's military alliance against Israel. June 5: Six Day War begins: Israeli Airforce attacks airfields in Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. June 10: Israel and its enemies accepted UN Security Council cease-fire demands. The war ended, leaving Israel in control of the Sinai peninsula, eastern Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, Judea-Samaria and the Gaza Strip. (The Sinai was returned to Egypt between 1978 and 1982, as part of an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty.) "Never in human history can an aggressor have made his purpose known in advance so clearly and so widely. Certain of victory, both the Arab leaders and their peoples threw off all restraint. Between the middle of May and fifth of June, world-wide newspapers, radio and, most incisively, television brought home to millions of people the threat of politicide bandied about with relish by the leaders of these modern states. Even more blatant was the exhilaration which the Arabic peoples displayed as the prospect of executing genocide on the people of Israel ... In those three weeks of mounting tension people throughout the world watched and waited in growing anxiety--or in some cases, in hopeful expectation--for the overwhelming forces of at least Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq to bear down from three sides to crush tiny Israel and slaughter her people." - Samuel Katz, Battleground: Fact and fantasy in Palestine

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/sixdaywar.html arab governments of course lied to their people saying they were winning even as they lost. eventually leading to a shock when the people realized this. i wonder what twisted history they teach to their children today.

You guys are so funny your are giving me Israeli and Zionist information. Oh god you guys are so brainwash by those with power i'm sorry to say it!

oh wow! if you dont believe us, do some research yourself. pick any news site and look up the 1967 war (quasi-war, whatever you want to call it). many times you have bragged how you, living in canada and apparently being of arab decent, are much more informed than us americans are. apparently you are mistaken. before you reply that i am brainwashed, at least TRY and do a little reading on the subject first. edit: spelling

Ok I have a question for you but plz give me an honest answer. Are you jewish?

 

[povertystruck]

You can't argue with facts, thats why i like opinions. But if you guys want to give more facts, than give some variety, move on from the 1967 war. What happened in 1948? That should be interesting. And for opinions, predict the future, not what would have happened if blah blah did blah blah.

I heard the uprising started in 2000. What was Israel like a few years before?

 

[kaizersose]

whatever my beliefs are, they have nothing to do with the outcome of the 1967 war.

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: povertystruck
You can't argue with facts, thats why i like opinions. But if you guys want to give more facts, than give some variety, move on from the 1967 war. What happened in 1948? That should be interesting. And for opinions, predict the future, not what would have happened if blah blah did blah blah.

I heard the uprising started in 2000. What was Israel like a few years before?

i was actually in jordan and the west bank in 1998 and conditions were very good. travel back and forth to israel was easy and there were very few incidents for a number of years. the economy of israel was good, and there were many jobs for palestinians. the intifada started in 1999 and ever since then, things have been bad.

 

[OutHouse]

[/quote]You guys are so funny your are giving me Israeli and Zionist information. Oh god you guys are so brainwash by those with power i'm sorry to say it![/quote]

oh wow!

if you dont believe us, do some research yourself. pick any news site and look up the 1967 war (quasi-war, whatever you want to call it). many times you have bragged how you, living in canada and apparently being of arab decent, are much more informed than us americans are. apparently you are mistaken.

before you reply that i am brainwashed, at least TRY and do a little reading on the subject first.

edit: spelling[/quote]

He won?t. Unless he finds a site that has rewritten history to meet his own twisted version, or one with a Palestine flag waving and says Israel was really defeated and the Arab countries gave them the land to help out the poor Jews.

This is why you can't argue with a knucklehead like this. No matter what you tell them, no matter how much FACT you can wave under their noses, they will always come back and say....

Drum roll please.........................

"You are giving me Israeli and Zionist information"

You might call Americans arrogant, we aren?t arrogant we are just able to see the truth, even it it is painful and hurts our pride. but at lease we can acknowledge it.

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: kaizersose
whatever my beliefs are, they have nothing to do with the outcome of the 1967 war.

you see you won't answer. You are wrong your beliefs do play a role in this conflict, if you have one.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo and btw, the egyptian army in sinai was cut off completely. no air defense and was to be picked apart. egyptians should thank the US for preventing total slaughter. ungrateful ingrates... the fact that you don't know such a basic fact is frightening. opinions are based on ones collective knowledge, and it seems your opinions are built upon a a house of cards. the arabs are genocidal.

May 14, 1967: Egypt's President Gamal Nasser demands the withdrawal of United Nations force--established in 1957 as an international "guarantee" of safety for Israel--from the Sinai peninsula. The UN meekly obeys; the United States and Britain fail to rouse the Security Council to take action. May 15: Three Egyptian army divisions and 600 tanks roll into the Sinai. World community does nothing. May 17: Cairo Radio's Voice of the Arabs: "All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel." May 18: Voice of the Arabs announces: "As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence." May 18: Nasser announces blockade of Straits of Tiran in the Red Sea, severing Israel's southern maritime link to the outside world. Israel considers the closure an act of war. (US President Lyndon Johnson later says: "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed.") May 20: Syria's defence minister (now president) Hafez el-Assad says: "Our forces are now ready not only to repulse the aggression but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united ..." May 27: Nasser: "Our basic objection will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." May 30: Nasser : "The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel." May 30: Jordan's King Hussein signs a five-year mutual defence pact with Egypt and the two set up a joint command, making clear its stance in any future conflict. My 31: Egyptian newspaper Al Akhbar reports: "Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery, co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria, is in a position to cut Israel in two ..." May 31: Iraqi President Rahman Aref announces: "This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear--to wipe Israel off the map." June 4: Iraq joins Nasser's military alliance against Israel. June 5: Six Day War begins: Israeli Airforce attacks airfields in Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. June 10: Israel and its enemies accepted UN Security Council cease-fire demands. The war ended, leaving Israel in control of the Sinai peninsula, eastern Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, Judea-Samaria and the Gaza Strip. (The Sinai was returned to Egypt between 1978 and 1982, as part of an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty.) "Never in human history can an aggressor have made his purpose known in advance so clearly and so widely. Certain of victory, both the Arab leaders and their peoples threw off all restraint. Between the middle of May and fifth of June, world-wide newspapers, radio and, most incisively, television brought home to millions of people the threat of politicide bandied about with relish by the leaders of these modern states. Even more blatant was the exhilaration which the Arabic peoples displayed as the prospect of executing genocide on the people of Israel ... In those three weeks of mounting tension people throughout the world watched and waited in growing anxiety--or in some cases, in hopeful expectation--for the overwhelming forces of at least Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq to bear down from three sides to crush tiny Israel and slaughter her people." - Samuel Katz, Battleground: Fact and fantasy in Palestine

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/sixdaywar.html arab governments of course lied to their people saying they were winning even as they lost. eventually leading to a shock when the people realized this. i wonder what twisted history they teach to their children today.

You guys are so funny your are giving me Israeli and Zionist information. Oh god you guys are so brainwash by those with power i'm sorry to say it!

oh wow! if you dont believe us, do some research yourself. pick any news site and look up the 1967 war (quasi-war, whatever you want to call it). many times you have bragged how you, living in canada and apparently being of arab decent, are much more informed than us americans are. apparently you are mistaken. before you reply that i am brainwashed, at least TRY and do a little reading on the subject first. edit: spelling

Ok I have a question for you but plz give me an honest answer. Are you jewish?

your going to love this. i'm chinese, and athiest.

beat that.


a good book, 6 days of war

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: kaizersose
whatever my beliefs are, they have nothing to do with the outcome of the 1967 war.

you see you won't answer. You are wrong your beliefs do play a role in this conflict, if you have one.

that makes no sense. i could be the ayatollah for all you care--it doesnt change the outcome of a war in 1967.

 

[povertystruck]

A better answer would be: I wasn't there, but if I was................

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: Citrix

You guys are so funny your are giving me Israeli and Zionist information. Oh god you guys are so brainwash by those with power i'm sorry to say it![/quote] oh wow! if you dont believe us, do some research yourself. pick any news site and look up the 1967 war (quasi-war, whatever you want to call it). many times you have bragged how you, living in canada and apparently being of arab decent, are much more informed than us americans are. apparently you are mistaken. before you reply that i am brainwashed, at least TRY and do a little reading on the subject first. edit: spelling[/quote] He won?t. Unless he finds a site that has rewritten history to meet his own twisted version, or one with a Palestine flag waving and says Israel was really defeated and the Arab countries gave them the land to help out the poor Jews. This is why you can't argue with a knucklehead like this. No matter what you tell them, no matter how much FACT you can wave under their noses, they will always come back and say.... Drum roll please......................... "You are giving me Israeli and Zionist information"

You might call Americans arrogant, we aren?t arrogant we are just able to see the truth, even it it is painful and hurts our pride. but at lease we can acknowledge it.[/quote]

No I like truth facts. But even if I give you a information about it you won't believe it any why. Look after sept.11 some of you became extremely angry about what happened. I understand that but don't start hating all muslims or arabes for what has happened. This is exacly what the Israelis want you to think

 

[Cesar]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: kaizersose

Originally posted by: Cesar

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo and btw, the egyptian army in sinai was cut off completely. no air defense and was to be picked apart. egyptians should thank the US for preventing total slaughter. ungrateful ingrates... the fact that you don't know such a basic fact is frightening. opinions are based on ones collective knowledge, and it seems your opinions are built upon a a house of cards. the arabs are genocidal.

May 14, 1967: Egypt's President Gamal Nasser demands the withdrawal of United Nations force--established in 1957 as an international "guarantee" of safety for Israel--from the Sinai peninsula. The UN meekly obeys; the United States and Britain fail to rouse the Security Council to take action. May 15: Three Egyptian army divisions and 600 tanks roll into the Sinai. World community does nothing. May 17: Cairo Radio's Voice of the Arabs: "All Egypt is now prepared to plunge into total war which will put an end to Israel." May 18: Voice of the Arabs announces: "As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is a total war which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence." May 18: Nasser announces blockade of Straits of Tiran in the Red Sea, severing Israel's southern maritime link to the outside world. Israel considers the closure an act of war. (US President Lyndon Johnson later says: "If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed.") May 20: Syria's defence minister (now president) Hafez el-Assad says: "Our forces are now ready not only to repulse the aggression but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united ..." May 27: Nasser: "Our basic objection will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight." May 30: Nasser : "The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel." May 30: Jordan's King Hussein signs a five-year mutual defence pact with Egypt and the two set up a joint command, making clear its stance in any future conflict. My 31: Egyptian newspaper Al Akhbar reports: "Under terms of the military agreement signed with Jordan, Jordanian artillery, co-ordinated with the forces of Egypt and Syria, is in a position to cut Israel in two ..." May 31: Iraqi President Rahman Aref announces: "This is our opportunity to wipe out the ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is clear--to wipe Israel off the map." June 4: Iraq joins Nasser's military alliance against Israel. June 5: Six Day War begins: Israeli Airforce attacks airfields in Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq. June 10: Israel and its enemies accepted UN Security Council cease-fire demands. The war ended, leaving Israel in control of the Sinai peninsula, eastern Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, Judea-Samaria and the Gaza Strip. (The Sinai was returned to Egypt between 1978 and 1982, as part of an Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty.) "Never in human history can an aggressor have made his purpose known in advance so clearly and so widely. Certain of victory, both the Arab leaders and their peoples threw off all restraint. Between the middle of May and fifth of June, world-wide newspapers, radio and, most incisively, television brought home to millions of people the threat of politicide bandied about with relish by the leaders of these modern states. Even more blatant was the exhilaration which the Arabic peoples displayed as the prospect of executing genocide on the people of Israel ... In those three weeks of mounting tension people throughout the world watched and waited in growing anxiety--or in some cases, in hopeful expectation--for the overwhelming forces of at least Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Iraq to bear down from three sides to crush tiny Israel and slaughter her people." - Samuel Katz, Battleground: Fact and fantasy in Palestine

http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/sixdaywar.html arab governments of course lied to their people saying they were winning even as they lost. eventually leading to a shock when the people realized this. i wonder what twisted history they teach to their children today.

You guys are so funny your are giving me Israeli and Zionist information. Oh god you guys are so brainwash by those with power i'm sorry to say it!

oh wow! if you dont believe us, do some research yourself. pick any news site and look up the 1967 war (quasi-war, whatever you want to call it). many times you have bragged how you, living in canada and apparently being of arab decent, are much more informed than us americans are. apparently you are mistaken. before you reply that i am brainwashed, at least TRY and do a little reading on the subject first. edit: spelling

Ok I have a question for you but plz give me an honest answer. Are you jewish?

your going to love this. i'm chinese, and athiest. beat that. a good book, 6 days of war

Chinese yeah ok! beat what?