Regret buying an xbox one.

[zerocool84]

The thing I hate the most about my Xbox One is the mandatory installs. In the effort to make it "streamlined" you really have no idea what's going on when you pop in a disc - you just get a vague "Installing". It should give you a verbose status ("Copying data from disc. Downloading updates. Installing updates") with the read or download speed listed as well.

Games on disc should run from the disc. Or give me the option to install it, or even just use the disc to load/verify the license and download the entire thing from the internet.

Everything installs, makes the game load faster. The problem with the Xbone is that everything takes so damn long, installs take forever and downloading takes forever. Downloading and installing on my PS4 are extremely quick compared to my Xbone.

 

[Lil Frier]

There is a lot of fidelity to be had at 1080p. Higher polygon counts, higher resolution textures, and greater use of AA can help tremendously. You don't need 4k resolution to have a better looking game. This is why I am always shocked when someone is happy to turn a game's effects down to medium to run it at 4k on a PC. I mean, you're lowering draw distances, making textures more blurry, introducing more pop in, making character models have less detail, lowering shadow detail, decreasing foliage density all because you want a higher resolution. The resolution isn't going to make up for core graphics assets being lower quality. It's not the same as live action video where 4k resolution can be much more detailed and sharper by default.

Agreed, for the most part. When I play a game, more specifically WoW, I always put draw distance at the top of my list for graphical settings. I cranked that up, then tweaked everything else to keep my draw distance maximized. That probably changes by the game you are playing, since I don't care about the shadowing or foliage density in that game, where the camera distance is set so far back I don't notice, but the point is that pop-in is probably the WORST negative effect graphics have on me. I don't see most other things well, if at all, but trying to navigate and having textures show up late is extremely bothersome.

The thing I hate the most about my Xbox One is the mandatory installs. In the effort to make it "streamlined" you really have no idea what's going on when you pop in a disc - you just get a vague "Installing". It should give you a verbose status ("Copying data from disc. Downloading updates. Installing updates") with the read or download speed listed as well.

Games on disc should run from the disc. Or give me the option to install it, or even just use the disc to load/verify the license and download the entire thing from the internet.

Why would you choose that last option? Internet installs aren't going to be faster than disc ones, and you might have a data cap. What I want is the ability to pre-load any game online, then be required to buy the digital license or put in a disc. This would be a big benefit for midnight releases.

 

[KentState]

Why would you choose that last option? Internet installs aren't going to be faster than disc ones, and you might have a data cap. What I want is the ability to pre-load any game online, then be required to buy the digital license or put in a disc. This would be a big benefit for midnight releases.

Or could be like Halo MCC and require you to install and then download a patch nearly the same size as the install. That was a painful one.

 

[OverVolt]

Everything installs, makes the game load faster. The problem with the Xbone is that everything takes so damn long, installs take forever and downloading takes forever. Downloading and installing on my PS4 are extremely quick compared to my Xbone.

Yes agreed. Its so much smoother, its hard to describe. The XB one is just so clunky. I have both so... not really fan boying out. I have a knack for buying the generational winner. I never bought a Game Cube, Dream Cast, etc.

I had Sega in the heyday of Sega and I had PS2 in its day as well. I had Xbox 360 over PS3 and my opinion is that PS4 is the winner this time around. It fluctuates. Unfortunately my friends stuck on XB one. What a frustrating & clunky device. The only people with any kind of weird post purchase syndromes are the ones with post purchase rationalization trying to talk up the XB one. Its inferior in several ways. Just because the XB one lists something as a feature doesn't mean it works properly or is refined. Where as the PS4 pretty much does it what it says its going to do without complaint.

 

[Lil Frier]

Or could be like Halo MCC and require you to install and then download a patch nearly the same size as the install. That was a painful one.

Well, not exactly. The "patch" was actually adding the multiplayer. Part of it was probably bug fixing it, part might have been that the game was over the dual-layer Blu-Ray maximum of 50 GB with everything.

Still, the game was 45 GB or so on-disc and about 15 GB for the patch. Hardly the same size, but definitely a massive download to put up with, especially since the game wouldn't install them simultaneously.

 

[KentState]

Well, not exactly. The "patch" was actually adding the multiplayer. Part of it was probably bug fixing it, part might have been that the game was over the dual-layer Blu-Ray maximum of 50 GB with everything.

Still, the game was 45 GB or so on-disc and about 15 GB for the patch. Hardly the same size, but definitely a massive download to put up with, especially since the game wouldn't install them simultaneously.

Thought it was more, maybe I'm thinking of a different game. Between the XB360, XB1, PS3, PS4 and PC there are way too many patches going on in a month. Half of our cap probably goes to patching.

 

[exdeath]

Wat? People wanting to fix a bug that may be "you can't progress further into the game" is ridiculous? OK then...

Games are WAY more complex than they were 20 years ago...and game testing is often very VERY hard to do.

People complaining about how you can farm tickets easy in Xenoblade Chronicles X solo and how they should nerf tickets to force you to have to kill those bosses in multi player. It's a single player JRPG, it's not COD or an MMO. I don't give a fuck about online play in Xenoblade.

People complaining about perks like Killshot in Fallout 4 being OP and needing to be nerfed.

How the fuck is something OP in a single player game ?

 

[XavierMace]

I've had zero issues with Forza 6 on my XBOne nor any issues with the Netflix app.

 

[digiram]

Yes agreed. Its so much smoother, its hard to describe. The XB one is just so clunky. I have both so... not really fan boying out. I have a knack for buying the generational winner. I never bought a Game Cube, Dream Cast, etc.

I had Sega in the heyday of Sega and I had PS2 in its day as well. I had Xbox 360 over PS3 and my opinion is that PS4 is the winner this time around. It fluctuates. Unfortunately my friends stuck on XB one. What a frustrating & clunky device. The only people with any kind of weird post purchase syndromes are the ones with post purchase rationalization trying to talk up the XB one. Its inferior in several ways. Just because the XB one lists something as a feature doesn't mean it works properly or is refined. Where as the PS4 pretty much does it what it says its going to do without complaint.

You seriously care about buying the console that's winning in Sales? You have both anyway, why does it matter that xbox one is losing in sales?

I'd recommend selling your xbox if you regret it so much.

 

[Scarpozzi]

You kids make me so jealous with your free time and video games.

 

[RampantAndroid]

You seriously care about buying the console that's winning in Sales? You have both anyway, why does it matter that xbox one is losing in sales?

I'd recommend selling your xbox if you regret it so much.

Both consoles are still outselling their preceding generation by a fair amount, right? Who cares. They're BOTH successful. They both work. I own both for a reason, tbh.

 

[Dsmtalonkid]

I got an Xbox one for about an extra $130 when Best Buy messed up and was giving $190 trade in value on the 4gb 360 slims lol.
I bought a bunch of games for it but didn't play too much, I still had another 360 and played that more than the 1.
I traded the 1 for a gaming pc and haven't regretted it once, and now I'm back to having 2 360s, 1 for me and 1 for my son.

 

[OverVolt]

I've had zero issues with Forza 6 on my XBOne nor any issues with the Netflix app.

My friends like to take video clips and share them. I dunno... so I was being rough with recording a video and going in and out of the menu's quickly mid-race. Its fast they said, its seamless they said.

Well...

The "kaching" money sound got stuck in an infinite loop when the race ended. That shit doesn't happen on PS4 no matter how rough I am with going back and forth between the game and menu's.

Also the parts upgrades lag like hell. Maybe you're just used to how clunky the console is, but my ti-83 could probably simulate the new stats faster.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Thread made purely to bash the console confirmed

 

[OverVolt]

Thread made purely to bash the console confirmed

I don't like it!

 

[futurefields]

To each his own.

Xbox has the Forza games which puts it over PS4 in my opinion.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Thread made purely to bash the console confirmed

We knew this from the outset. I number of the complaints posted I've called out as well. Whatever, opinions are like....well, you know the quote.

 

[eternalone]

Loving my Xbox one purchase lots of Free games with gold and a Free Xbox 360 inside my Xbox one everything runs like butter, came from PC gaming and am still happy. Its nice getting 2 consoles for the price of one. As it is Xbox is the better value, most for your money.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Loving my Xbox one purchase lots of Free games with gold and a Free Xbox 360 inside my Xbox one everything runs like butter, came from PC gaming and am still happy. Its nice getting 2 consoles for the price of one. As it is Xbox is the better value, most for your money.

Well, the PS4 gets you the older games, but they're running on the cloud - not locally. Streaming from my XB1 to my PC though is pretty awesome.

 

[exdeath]

To each his own.

Xbox has the Forza games which puts it over PS4 in my opinion.

And that's a big problem all by itself.

Forza Halo and Gears is ALL it has. Microsoft is just a 3 trick pony releasing the same 3 games over and over and over again and the too cool for skool 'nadebros eat it up like it's something to brag about that Sony and Nintendo don't have.

It's like the dumbass who think's he's cool riding around in slammed hellaflush murdered out G37. He actually thinks hes a badass but in reality hes the only one not laughing at what a retard he is.

Also, in before the usual AT suspects respond to defend their favorite 'nadebro box.

Also I have like 4 Xbox One consoles (Day One, white MC, Halo 5, and Elite) and all whopping 22 physical exclusives that have released in the past what 2-3 years?

4 of them are Forza (Forza 5, Forza 5 GOTY, Forza Horizon 2, and Forza 6)
2 of them are Halo, one of which is a collection of old games (MCC and 5)
1 of them is a Gears remaster from almost a decade ago
3 more at least are GOTY remakes of previous day one games (Dead Rising, Ryse, Forza 5. etc)
3 of them are 360 ports of filler games that were only cross released to pad the launch title count (Disney Fantasia, Zoo Tycoon, Shape Up)
1 is another Halo/Gears/CoD 'nadebro shooter (Titanfall)
2 are MS pretending to have non shooter/sports genres but are really just bragging they have Rare by remaking old content(Killer Instinct, Rare Replay)
1 is a Kinect Sports for a dead periphreal that shows what lame shit MS is REALLY having Rare doing these days
1 is State of Decay not a bad game but a XBO port of a 360 game
A couple other oddballs light Fighter Within and ScreamRide.

I'm not counting Rise of the Tomb Raider because it will be on PS4 later this year where it will likely break 1 mil units on launch.

That leaves only 2 legit notable decent interesting fresh non typical MS games in 3 years that aren't Halo, Forza, Gears, or resurrected past content:

Sunset Overdrive and Project Spark.

This is a worse library than the Wii U that everyone loves to hate on.

Think about that for a bit before responding (not that it will matter to someone hellbent on getting butthurt).

 

[exdeath]

The last two releases for XBO were Sept and Oct 2015... and they were... SURPRISE...yet another Halo 5 and Forza 6...

Scalebound, Crackdown, Sea of Thieves, Recore, Gears of War 4, Fable Legends, Phantom Dust, Halo Wars 2, and Quantum Break are on my upcoming list, am I missing anything? Some of these like Phantom Dust might not even happen and the rest don't even have release dates yet that I'm aware of.

So Halo 5 and Forza 6 is all that we've seen on XBO since Sept/Oct 2015.

Meanwhile since that same time Wii U had Xenoblade Chronicles X, Rodea the Sky Soldier, Yoshi's Woolly World, Animal Crossing amiibo Festival, Mario Tennis Ultra Smash, Devil's Third,

and will additionally see before another XBox One exclusive launches,

Twilight Princess HD, Pokken Tournament, and Star Fox Zero, in addition to a Bayonetta 2 re-release (not sure why but I welcome it to fuck over the resellers since the original release is out of print).

Doing the same comparison for PS4 would be more difficult since it's my multiplat console of choice, I'd have to sort through all the shovelware, indy physical releases, multiplat games, etc but I don't recall any huge PS4 exclusive hits releasing the past couple months.

Notable entries that I can remember, cutting off at at Sept 1, '15, are Megadimension Neptunia VII, Sword Art Online, Nitroplus Blasterz, Gravity Rush, Tiny Troopers, Uncharted Collection, Tales of Zestiria, Until Dawn, Metal Gear Solid V (multi plat but is traditionally a Playstation IP), One Piece Pirate Warriors, and ???

Never fear though, there will probably be a Halo 6 and Forza 7 to fill the gap between last September and the next XBO games in the upcoming list to get a release date...no not enough time so we should see a Halo 5 GOTY and Forza 6 GOTY announced any week now... we are due for another "neener neener neener we have Rare even though they are a mere shell of their former self and we don't let them do anything anyway" announcement as well.

 

[purbeast0]

Well, the PS4 gets you the older games, but they're running on the cloud - not locally. Streaming from my XB1 to my PC though is pretty awesome.

i was playing psnow last night on ps4. we were playing bomberman ultra.

the control/latency in that game was enough to tell me that psnow is completely worthless to me. it felt pretty good sometimes, but there were clearly hiccups with graphics stuttering, and dropped inputs and input delay.

 

[cmdrdredd]

And that's a big problem all by itself.

Forza Halo and Gears is ALL it has. Microsoft is just a 3 trick pony releasing the same 3 games over and over and over again and the too cool for skool 'nadebros eat it up like it's something to brag about that Sony and Nintendo don't have.

It's like the dumbass who think's he's cool riding around in slammed hellaflush murdered out G37. He actually thinks hes a badass but in reality hes the only one not laughing at what a retard he is.

Also, in before the usual AT suspects respond to defend their favorite 'nadebro box.

Also I have like 4 Xbox One consoles (Day One, white MC, Halo 5, and Elite) and all whopping 22 physical exclusives that have released in the past what 2-3 years?

4 of them are Forza (Forza 5, Forza 5 GOTY, Forza Horizon 2, and Forza 6)
2 of them are Halo, one of which is a collection of old games (MCC and 5)
1 of them is a Gears remaster from almost a decade ago
3 more at least are GOTY remakes of previous day one games (Dead Rising, Ryse, Forza 5. etc)
3 of them are 360 ports of filler games that were only cross released to pad the launch title count (Disney Fantasia, Zoo Tycoon, Shape Up)
1 is another Halo/Gears/CoD 'nadebro shooter (Titanfall)
2 are MS pretending to have non shooter/sports genres but are really just bragging they have Rare by remaking old content(Killer Instinct, Rare Replay)
1 is a Kinect Sports for a dead periphreal that shows what lame shit MS is REALLY having Rare doing these days
1 is State of Decay not a bad game but a XBO port of a 360 game
A couple other oddballs light Fighter Within and ScreamRide.

I'm not counting Rise of the Tomb Raider because it will be on PS4 later this year where it will likely break 1 mil units on launch.

That leaves only 2 legit notable decent interesting fresh non typical MS games in 3 years that aren't Halo, Forza, Gears, or resurrected past content:

Sunset Overdrive and Project Spark.

This is a worse library than the Wii U that everyone loves to hate on.

Think about that for a bit before responding (not that it will matter to someone hellbent on getting butthurt).

The releases for the WiiU aren't even good games to me though and are missing key online functionality.

Rise of Tomb raider is on PC right now too BTW which is important to note because many of us here have consoles only for games that do not go to PC or to supplement a PC gaming library/play with real life friends. The PC is getting lots of RPGs too on steam so aside from a couple there's no reason to even list out a bunch of RPGs that aren't on Xbox. It's well known that Japanese developers don't support Xbox very well.

You could also say that all Sony has is Uncharted and Baseball. Gravity rush is a port from the Vita on PS4 with some better resolution etc. Pretty much the only exclusives anymore are first party titles that are on their 3rd, 4th, or 5th game in the series or whatever anyway.

i was playing psnow last night on ps4. we were playing bomberman ultra.

the control/latency in that game was enough to tell me that psnow is completely worthless to me. it felt pretty good sometimes, but there were clearly hiccups with graphics stuttering, and dropped inputs and input delay.

Admittedly I've never tried it but this is what I assumed anyhow.

 

[exdeath]

The releases for the WiiU aren't even good games to me though and are missing key online functionality.

Rise of Tomb raider is on PC right now too BTW which is important to note because many of us here have consoles only for games that do not go to PC or to supplement a PC gaming library/play with real life friends. The PC is getting lots of RPGs too on steam so aside from a couple there's no reason to even list out a bunch of RPGs that aren't on Xbox. It's well known that Japanese developers don't support Xbox very well.

You could also say that all Sony has is Uncharted and Baseball. Gravity rush is a port from the Vita on PS4 with some better resolution etc. Pretty much the only exclusives anymore are first party titles that are on their 3rd, 4th, or 5th game in the series or whatever anyway.

I know, I said at the start there were no notable real PS4 releases before I listed recent exclusives.

As far as the recurrent general argument against Wii U games not having online, by "key online functionality" I take that to mean "no all important competitive versus deathmatch mode to pwn n00bs and epeen my friends" mode which not having it is one of the most attractive things about Wii U games IMO. Not sure why a game like Zelda or Xenoblade needs a friggin deathmatch mode, that's stupid. Go play Halo or Call of Duty if that's so important.

Competitive versus mode does NOT have to be shoveled down the throat of every game that comes out, especially games like JRPGs that are BY DESIGN SINGLE PLAYER. I hate that even Xenoblade Chronicles X has what feels like last minute force mandatory online play (you are required to select a Squad online every time you start the game) just for the sake of saying "look we have a "modern" Wii U game with online support!

Even achievements and trophies and gamer scores and all that are just another form of online internet testosterone competition machismo to keep tabs on who's ahead of who in what game and even when they are offline single player trophies they are all just dumb stupid human pet tricks like "ride 10,000 steps on a chocobo" or "fall off the highest building" that are annoying for people who like to 100% all games they play.

I could do without all that nonsense honestly, there is way too much completely unnecessary competition and aggression and chest thumping and dick comparing in the world as is. I miss solo offline games that weren't about frags or K/D or pwning n00bs. Nintendo still delivers that experience.

That is a HUGE plus for Nintendo IMO.

And if your key online functionality is social media, well I don't have a twitter or facebook account by choice because I don't have a compulsive need to update the world with my personal life every 3 seconds, so why would I give half a fuck if a video game would allow me, or god forbid, FORCE me to do it? Oh hi guys I'm taking a shit now, stay tuned for the unboxing video?

 

[futurefields]

And that's a big problem all by itself. <snip>

Meh, like I said, Xbox has Forza. What does Sony have?

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