Religions can be beyond insane!!!!

Indus

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From: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/sna...efuses-treatment-after-rattlesnake-bite-dies/

A 60-year-old worshipper at a Kentucky Christian church died on Sunday after being bitten by a rattlesnake that he was handling as part of a religious rite.

According to WKYT, the Bell County Sheriff’s Office reported that John David Brock was bitten during Sunday morning services at the Mossy Simpson Pentecostal Church. Brock refused medical treatment and died four hours later at his brother’s home in the town of Jenson.

Brock worked as a miner for 36 years and was an adherent to the Holiness faith. Some Holiness congregations handle snakes as part of their worship, citing a passage from the Christian Bible’s Book of Mark.

True followers of Christ, says Mark 16:18, “will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”

Holiness followers believe that God will stop the snakes from biting them, and if they do bite, then God will save them from the poisonous effects of the venom.

Holiness Pastor Jamie Coots died in 2014 after being bitten during a service and refusing medical attention. His son Cody Coots continues the deadly practice
at the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro.

Snake handling has been illegal in Kentucky since 1942, but officials mostly look the other way when congregants engage in the practice today.

Holiness churches are mainly confined to the rural south in states like Georgia, Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama. An estimated 300 churches in the U.S. practice snake-handling as a rite of worship.

You'd think if the pastor of the church had died due to the snake's bite and god didn't heal him, they'd stop as their leader didn't prove god is powerful but these people are BEYOND INSANE and try to continue handling snakes. Also these are the very guys who try and force god down our throats saying we've sinned for giving equality to every American.

I honestly think more people have died in the name of religion than all others combined.

When are people going to wise up to it? Are they ever going to wise up to it? I digress..
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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From: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/sna...efuses-treatment-after-rattlesnake-bite-dies/



You'd think if the pastor of the church had died due to the snake's bite and god didn't heal him, they'd stop as their leader didn't prove god is powerful but these people are BEYOND INSANE and try to continue handling snakes. Also these are the very guys who try and force god down our throats saying we've sinned for giving equality to every American.
I was actually surprised to hear the practice is against the law. I'm about as atheist as they come, but if a grown man wants to handle a dangerous but otherwise legally-possessed snake as part of his religion, I'd defend his right to do so. Putting minors in any dangers is a different thing, of course.

I honestly think more people have died in the name of religion than all others combined.
That's a fairly difficult proposition to substantiate, and basically meaningless in evaluating the truth or falsity of theism.

When are people going to wise up to it? Are they ever going to wise up to it? I digress..

It is definitely time for the human race to grow up and put these childish bedtime fables behind them.
 

Auric

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It is definitely time for the human race to grow up and put these childish bedtime fables behind them.

Well at least recognise fables and allegory rather than interpreting literally. But preferably realise that the babblings of bronze-age cave jews may demand more scrutiny.
 
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Annisman*

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So stupid. I feel like they are putting God to the test just for the sake of it. When the apostle Paul was bitten by a snake he was just chilling at a camp fire if I recall the passage correctly. It bit him and he shook it off and went about his business.
 

davmat787

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I like when the hyper religious win Darwin awards.

Except when it costs an innocent child their life, like those examples where nutty parents didn't seek medical treatment for a curable illness due to religious beliefs that dictate it's in "gods hands".

Otherwise I think any consenting adult winning a Darwin award, for religious reasons or otherwise, is great stuff. Idiocy is by no means the sole domain of the religious.
 
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Except when it costs an innocent child their life, like those examples where nutty parents didn't seek medical treatment for a curable illness due to religious beliefs that dictate it's in "gods hands".

Otherwise I think any consenting adult winning a Darwin award, for religious reasons or otherwise, is great stuff. Idiocy is by no means the sole domain of the religious.

The world is a very strange place. I heard a story from a doctor who when he was young got interested in hypnotism even though he was very skeptical at first. He was told the hypnotism could cure warts and he was able to cure people. One day a patient who heard about him came to see him and he was covered with warts, all over his body so he decided to cure him a part at a time. He began with one arm and in a week it was covered with fresh pink skin. Then something happened because he made some public announcement of his success and was visited by the head doctor of doctors, the title I forget, who told him that it was impossible that he cured the boy's arm no matter what the photographs showed because the boy didn't have warts, he had an INCURABLE genetic disease. He was, after receiving that information, unable to cure the rest of the boy's body.
 

alien42

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don't blame god, the old pastor and Mr Brock were clearly not true followers of christ.
 

GagHalfrunt

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If we had more religious people like that we might finally be able to get rid of religion entirely. It's heartening to see people who actually have faith in god and are willing to put their lives on the line to demonstrate it. He at least had the courage of his convictions, no matter how misguided those convictions were. If all the wannabelievers were forced to demonstrate actual faith in their book of fairy tales and to put their trust in god's mercy they'd turn atheist in a heartbeat.
 

davmat787

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People are so silly. Are they not aware the bible is written by people? This is not wild speculation. It's a fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

A couple thousand years from now, people will be worshipping Tyler Durden without paying attention to the underlying story.


Also includes future religious songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgNF7_EWEZo

I've mentioned the same thing before. Emperor Constantine wasn't going to allow any gospels that he felt threatened Rome and the authority of the Emperor. Making Christianity the official religion of Rome was a very pragmatic move by Constantine.

No idea why the gospels that weren't included aren't of tremendous interest to all Christian denominations, given the fact that the widely accepted King James version was effectively edited for political reasons.
 

1prophet

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They must have left this passage out in their bible


5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:
“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[c

7 Jesus answered him, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[d
 

Jaskalas

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God gave us brains to appreciate the danger in things such as Rattlesnakes... and obviously meant for us to be smart enough to not play with them. The man wanted to test God's resolve and found out that the answer is a face to face meeting... in the afterlife.

We are here on earth to do good works... not to play stupid.
His faith was misplaced.
 

trenchfoot

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Ergo the old adage: "It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature".

So I guess the folks in that church now think that the "lucky" fella was chosen to leave the wicked earth and reside in peace and comfort at the foot of the Lord?

Methinks there's a whole lot of other (better?) ways to show how much faith one has in their chosen deity. I'm no biblical expert but it seems to me, in the spirit of exercising common sense, that there must be so many other passages and verse in it that proselytizes against needlessly endangering oneself as proof of faith.
 

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From: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/sna...efuses-treatment-after-rattlesnake-bite-dies/



You'd think if the pastor of the church had died due to the snake's bite and god didn't heal him, they'd stop as their leader didn't prove god is powerful but these people are BEYOND INSANE and try to continue handling snakes. Also these are the very guys who try and force god down our throats saying we've sinned for giving equality to every American.

I honestly think more people have died in the name of religion than all others combined.

When are people going to wise up to it? Are they ever going to wise up to it? I digress..

This is not religion at the height of its most insane.
 
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They've been doing this for several decades now so I have a feeling it will continue for many more years as for every person that dies there will be two brainwashed idiots to take their place.
Once you've resigned yourself to the fact that the world is full of idiots, this means nothing in the scheme of things...and for some to draw broad extrapolations from such minutia only serves to reinforce the fact that the world is, indeed, full of idiots.
 
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