Holocaust isn't the right word for this. Just call it a massacre.
Posting in a Sandeagle anti-israel thred
Since no mainstream media will ever report about it and you'll probably never read about it in history books......
So, sandeagle - when will you stop promoting hate and violence, let us forget about the past and think of a better future?
Since no mainstream media will ever report about it and you'll probably never read about it in history books......
28 years ago to this day, September 16th, a two day holocaust took place that claimed thousands of civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre
Holocaust isn't the right word for this. Just call it a massacre.
3. Israel failed to stop the slaughter of 800+ Palestinians including innocent civillians?
the Israeli forces enabled the entrance of the angry Kataeb Party group to the refugee camps, by providing them transportation from outside Beirut with Israeli military Helicopters (pick up and drop into the camps) and firing illuminating flares over the camps to enable the killing to continue during the night.
This is a common tactic used by anti-semites to attack Jews for remembering the Holocaust by using the term wherever possible to de-associate it with the systematic slaughter of 12 million innocent people in europe by the German Nazis.
That looks a little bit more like the Israelis helped the massacre along, rather then simply failed to stop it?
That looks a little bit more like the Israelis helped the massacre along, rather then simply failed to stop it?
If you take this particular wiki article as truth, then yes. A wiki article couldnt be biased,and wrong could it?
Don't try to put words into my mouth.
I'm realistic. SandEagle is trolling us and using the massacre in a cynical way to bash *insert your opinion here* for his P&N post. I bet:
1. No one gives a damn about those who actually killed, only the fact that Israel was involved.
2. No one gives a damn about the whole thing but you'd still argue about it here.
Forget? no
But said event has zero relevance to me, my brothers and likewise to most palestinians living today.
Bringing up the past and blowing whistles over and over just calls for more hate by every new generation. Yeah, there are enemies here. We are each other's enemies. You make peace with your enemy. If you want to keep digging up the bad stuff each side does as an enemy, you're never going to get anywhere.
P&N has no real sympathy for anything, that's my POV, so any such attempt is BS/cynicism/propaganda at best.
Other articles conflict with each other and Wiki.
Some state that the Israeli's let people in to look for terror cells within the Palestinians
Some state that the Israeli's participated
Others, that Israel stood by - internal issue
Israel was at least, an unwitting accomplis for a revenge party.
Whether they actually participated is up in the air.
The Palestinians within the camp(s) had previously done another massacre and were accussed of being responsible for the assination of the Lebonese president.
if you're a realist, why do u care what I post? 90% of P&N threads are trolling against Muslims, Arabs, immigrants, etc anyway.
you and 99% of P&N may look at Palestinians and Lebanese people as worthless, thus the attitude. but to me they're real humans that are suffering without getting the help and attention that they deserve
This is correct... it is extremely unclear whether Israel knew what was happening inside the camps... I've actually done quite a bit of research on the subject... and there's alot more information out there than you might think. The research I did seemed to indicate that SOME soldiers were aware of what was happening, but the communication of the events was muddled and confused in transmission back to command.
What is clear however, is that Israel certainly didn't "illuminate the camp with flares in order to facilitate the slaughter during the night"... as indicated by the Wiki article linked by the OP.
What is also clear is that Lebanese Arabs, who were Christian DID commit a savage massacre in the refugee camps. But all anyone wants to talk about is Jewish involvement. Pretty sad.
The Kahan commission found that Ariel Sharon (the Defense Minister at the time) and the IDF were indirectly responsible for the massacre. But I guess they were just biased against Israel...