Reporter Apologizes for Iraq Coverage

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Gaard
Were they a threat? Or were they a near future threat?

They may never have become a threat. Saddam, as he grew older and wiser, may have stepped down and instituted a democracy. Besides, why are you asking me...who the fudge am I anyway? Ask the UN Security Council what they thought when they passed the resolution...we all know who the fudge they are.

So they passed the resolution, but did they support going to war?

That's the baffling part. Why the fudge would you threaten military action for non-compliance and then not follow through once they proved to be in non-compliance?

Ding Ding Ding!
Maybe because they didn't see any imminent danger?

Nope. They wouldn't have threatened military action in the first place. Iraq's non-compliance with weapons inspectors made them a danger...that's what the resolution was passed to emphasize.

Possibility 1: The French and Russians just wanted more time. I forget exactly how many months the inspectors were there without Iraq's full cooperation, but it was long enough to move WMD to Syria, bury it in the sand where it will never be found and kill the guys who did the burying so nobody even knows, and just plain lull the general public to complacency again.

Possibility 2: $$$$$$. France, Germany and Russia were making a lot of money by exploiting Iraq and a flourishing democracy is a lot harder to exploit than a desparate dictator wallowing under sanctions.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Nope. They wouldn't have threatened military action in the first place. Iraq's non-compliance with weapons inspectors made them a danger...that's what the resolution was passed to emphasize.

First of all, Iraq's compliance with the inspections was good -- Blix rated it a "B" -- but it wasn't as good as we wanted. Second, to the extent they weren't fully compliant, you are wrong to say it made them a "danger". It made them an unknown. The inspections were intended to confirm Iraq had complied and was no longer a danger. Bush pre-empted them before they finished their work.

Possibility 1: The French and Russians just wanted more time. I forget exactly how many months the inspectors were there without Iraq's full cooperation, but it was long enough to move WMD to Syria, bury it in the sand where it will never be found and kill the guys who did the burying so nobody even knows, and just plain lull the general public to complacency again.

Possibility 2: $$$$$$. France, Germany and Russia were making a lot of money by exploiting Iraq and a flourishing democracy is a lot harder to exploit than a desparate dictator wallowing under sanctions.

Wow! And you guys make 'tinfoil hat" slurs about people who aren't Bush fanboys. While your conspiracy theories are entertaining, the more rational answer is that the most of the U.N. wanted to give the inspectors time to continue inspections, especially since Blix was finding that the U.S. intel about Iraq's WMDs was crap. Blix went everywhere we told him to go. He came out empty-handed again and again.

I believe that's why Bush was in such a rush to invade. His case for invading Iraq was unravelling more every day. Blix was gathering solid information for the first time in five years, information that eroded Bush's agenda. World opinion was starting to shift to Iraq not having WMDs after all. King George had to act fast or his empire-building urges would be nipped in the bud.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Gaard
Were they a threat? Or were they a near future threat?

Maybe they were a threat-related program activity.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Does anybody else see the irony in this? Recall the libbies here ran around calling anyone who remotely agreed with Bush an "apologist?"

Now look at them, they are running around actually apologizing. And...and... for what you ask? Aparently our attack on Iraq, which if you ask a libbie is all Bush's fault.

Therefore, libbies are really Bush apologists.

Do you know what apologist means? Obviously not. Here is a hint. It involves making excuses, not apologizing. You should try knowing what you are blathering about before you criticize others. If you apologize now for being clueless it will not make you an apologist.

I think I might have to buy dictionaries for all the P&N libbies this coming Christmas.

apologist

\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes in defense of a faith, a cause, or an institution; especially, one who argues in defense of Christianity.

Originally posted by: SuperTool
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.

n : a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution; "an apologist for capital punishment" [syn: vindicator, justifier]

dirtboy is pwned!

 

[maluckey]

Or perhaps they were corrupted, weak, and spineless?

My response is just an opinion, like anyone elses. If you threaten force, you must be prepared and willing to back it up. If not, you empower the object of your threats. It's Psychology 101, and a well known and documented fact of war as well. If you are caught bluffing, you no longer have the benefit of the doubt. The U.N.s 12 years of siphoning off the funds destined to Iraqi people, then the hollow threats meant nothing to Saddam. He called the bluff for 12 years, and won every time. He did as he pleased, and like Idi Amin rule in Uganda, Saddam was safe so long as he didn't tangle with anyone of substance. He stepped on his own manhood though, and came tumbling down as a result.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Does anybody else see the irony in this? Recall the libbies here ran around calling anyone who remotely agreed with Bush an "apologist?"

Now look at them, they are running around actually apologizing. And...and... for what you ask? Aparently our attack on Iraq, which if you ask a libbie is all Bush's fault.

Therefore, libbies are really Bush apologists.

Do you know what apologist means? Obviously not. Here is a hint. It involves making excuses, not apologizing. You should try knowing what you are blathering about before you criticize others. If you apologize now for being clueless it will not make you an apologist.

I think I might have to buy dictionaries for all the P&N libbies this coming Christmas.

apologist

\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes in defense of a faith, a cause, or an institution; especially, one who argues in defense of Christianity.

Originally posted by: SuperTool
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.

n : a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution; "an apologist for capital punishment" [syn: vindicator, justifier]

dirtboy is pwned!

Ldir: "It involves making excuses, not apologizing."
Dirtboy: "\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes..."

And you think dirtboy is "pwned"?

Buahahaha nice try though

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Does anybody else see the irony in this? Recall the libbies here ran around calling anyone who remotely agreed with Bush an "apologist?"

Now look at them, they are running around actually apologizing. And...and... for what you ask? Aparently our attack on Iraq, which if you ask a libbie is all Bush's fault.

Therefore, libbies are really Bush apologists.

Do you know what apologist means? Obviously not. Here is a hint. It involves making excuses, not apologizing. You should try knowing what you are blathering about before you criticize others. If you apologize now for being clueless it will not make you an apologist.

I think I might have to buy dictionaries for all the P&N libbies this coming Christmas.

apologist

\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes in defense of a faith, a cause, or an institution; especially, one who argues in defense of Christianity.

Originally posted by: SuperTool
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.

n : a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution; "an apologist for capital punishment" [syn: vindicator, justifier]

dirtboy is pwned!

Ldir: "It involves making excuses, not apologizing."
Dirtboy: "\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes..."

And you think dirtboy is "pwned"?

Buahahaha nice try though

CkG

Oh boy, by the phenomenon of Cadidicy, dirtboy is owned.

Buahahaha nice try though

I know I look like a fool, but it's the mirror, stupid.

 

[Nietzscheusw]

The only thing that matters now is this: will you act?
You reached an almost unanimous conclusion: the corporate mass-media deceived you, lied to you, did a poor job, proved incompetent,...whatever.
So now will you at last try to find better sources of information?
Here are some you can try, and compare to corporate media:

Disinformation

Counterpunch

Alternet

Indymedia World Portal

Who owns what

Guerrilla News Network

News about Latin America in english.

What is censored?

Corporate and Progressive newswires side by side

Fair: Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting

The Memory Hole - FOIA documents,...

Buzz Flash

Information Clearing House

TV News Lies

From The Wilderness

 

[alchemize]

You reached an almost unanimous conclusion: the corporate mass-media deceived you, lied to you, did a poor job, proved incompetent,...whatever.

Kind of like the "New York to be nuked" incompetency?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Nietzscheusw
The only thing that matters now is this: will you act?
You reached an almost unanimous conclusion: the corporate mass-media deceived you, lied to you, did a poor job, proved incompetent,...whatever.
So now will you at last try to find better sources of information?
Here are some you can try, and compare to corporate media:

Disinformation

Counterpunch

Alternet

Indymedia World Portal

Who owns what

Guerrilla News Network

News about Latin America in english.

What is censored?

Corporate and Progressive newswires side by side

Fair: Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting

The Memory Hole - FOIA documents,...

Buzz Flash

Information Clearing House

TV News Lies

From The Wilderness

Guess I need to stop at Sam'sClub after work. I'm sure I don't have enough tin-foil at home to read all of those.

CkG

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Does anybody else see the irony in this? Recall the libbies here ran around calling anyone who remotely agreed with Bush an "apologist?"

Now look at them, they are running around actually apologizing. And...and... for what you ask? Aparently our attack on Iraq, which if you ask a libbie is all Bush's fault.

Therefore, libbies are really Bush apologists.

Do you know what apologist means? Obviously not. Here is a hint. It involves making excuses, not apologizing. You should try knowing what you are blathering about before you criticize others. If you apologize now for being clueless it will not make you an apologist.

I think I might have to buy dictionaries for all the P&N libbies this coming Christmas.

apologist

\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes in defense of a faith, a cause, or an institution; especially, one who argues in defense of Christianity.

Originally posted by: SuperTool
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.

n : a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution; "an apologist for capital punishment" [syn: vindicator, justifier]

dirtboy is pwned!

Ldir: "It involves making excuses, not apologizing."
Dirtboy: "\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes..."

And you think dirtboy is "pwned"?

Buahahaha nice try though

CkG

You and dirtboy make a nice couple. A dumb jerk and a dense boob.

dumb adjective
1. a. Lacking the power of speech. Used of animals and inanimate objects. b. Offensive. Incapable of using speech; mute. Used of human beings.
2. Temporarily speechless, as with shock or fear: I was dumb with disbelief.
3. Unwilling to speak; taciturn.
4. Not expressed or articulated in sounds or words: dumb resentment.
5. Conspicuously unintelligent; stupid: dumb officials; a dumb decision.

jerk noun
1. A sudden abrupt motion, such as a yank or twist.
2. A jolting or lurching motion.
3. Physiology. A sudden reflexive or spasmodic muscular movement.
4. Slang. A dull, stupid, or fatuous person.

dense adjective
1. a. Having relatively high density. b. Crowded closely together; compact: a dense population.
2. Hard to penetrate; thick: a dense jungle.
3. Opaque, with good contrast between light and dark areas.
4. Slow to apprehend; thickheaded. See synonyms at stupid.

boob noun
1. A stupid or foolish person; a dolt.
2. A woman's breast.


You win. When I say Bush Apologist I do not mean the ordinary meaning everyone understands. If I say Dubya is a crook, I do not mean the obvious meaning. I mean he is an implement or tool with a bent or curved part. When I say you are a dense boob ...


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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): torturing English since 1980

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: dirtboy
Does anybody else see the irony in this? Recall the libbies here ran around calling anyone who remotely agreed with Bush an "apologist?"

Now look at them, they are running around actually apologizing. And...and... for what you ask? Aparently our attack on Iraq, which if you ask a libbie is all Bush's fault.

Therefore, libbies are really Bush apologists.

Do you know what apologist means? Obviously not. Here is a hint. It involves making excuses, not apologizing. You should try knowing what you are blathering about before you criticize others. If you apologize now for being clueless it will not make you an apologist.

I think I might have to buy dictionaries for all the P&N libbies this coming Christmas.

apologist

\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes in defense of a faith, a cause, or an institution; especially, one who argues in defense of Christianity.

Originally posted by: SuperTool
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.

n : a person who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution; "an apologist for capital punishment" [syn: vindicator, justifier]

dirtboy is pwned!

Ldir: "It involves making excuses, not apologizing."
Dirtboy: "\A*pol"o*gist\, n. [Cf. F. apologiste.] One who makes an apology; one who speaks or writes..."

And you think dirtboy is "pwned"?

Buahahaha nice try though

CkG

You and dirtboy make a nice couple. A dumb jerk and a dense boob.

dumb adjective
1. a. Lacking the power of speech. Used of animals and inanimate objects. b. Offensive. Incapable of using speech; mute. Used of human beings.
2. Temporarily speechless, as with shock or fear: I was dumb with disbelief.
3. Unwilling to speak; taciturn.
4. Not expressed or articulated in sounds or words: dumb resentment.
5. Conspicuously unintelligent; stupid: dumb officials; a dumb decision.

jerk noun
1. A sudden abrupt motion, such as a yank or twist.
2. A jolting or lurching motion.
3. Physiology. A sudden reflexive or spasmodic muscular movement.
4. Slang. A dull, stupid, or fatuous person.

dense adjective
1. a. Having relatively high density. b. Crowded closely together; compact: a dense population.
2. Hard to penetrate; thick: a dense jungle.
3. Opaque, with good contrast between light and dark areas.
4. Slow to apprehend; thickheaded. See synonyms at stupid.

boob noun
1. A stupid or foolish person; a dolt.
2. A woman's breast.


You win. When I say Bush Apologist I do not mean the ordinary meaning everyone understands. If I say Dubya is a crook, I do not mean the obvious meaning. I mean he is an implement or tool with a bent or curved part. When I say you are a dense boob ...

Oh isn't that nice - little Ldir boy has realized that he was wrong and now has to call names and throw a little hissy. How nice...

CkG

 

[Caminetto]

Perhaps I can't read between the lines but the apology Clark should have made would have been to say something like: "I am sorry for MY failure to realize much earlier that I was dealing with an administration that is more interested in pursuing an agenda which includes personal goals and the goals of those who put them in power and not those that are in the best interest of the American people". OR "I couldn't have possibly imagined that I was dealing with dildos".

 

[conjur]

True, Caminetto. The Republicans in Congress definitely kept Clinton from acting on Al Qaeda as best he could.

 

[chess9]

Caminetto:

Bwuahahahaha! Stop, yer' killin' me.

I wasn't much impressed with the apology he did make, but yours certainly would have been the punch line of the year. I'm trying to get an image in my head of Scott McClellan "dignifying that characterization with a response."

-Robert

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Oh isn't that nice - little Ldir boy has realized that he was wrong and now has to call names and throw a little hissy. How nice...

CkG

Gaard is right. You never admit you are wrong. You are also a poor loser. You are a good Republican.

 

[arsbanned]

That's why I thought we needed to go in

People should not have to die because of what YOU "thought" -and I do use the term loosely....