Republican now hate hungry children

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It is the federal government's responsibility to make sure school kids aren't fat morons, because we NEED to be competitive with the rest of the world, whether it's in labor, research, or war.

We didn't become a superpower and we won't stay a superpower by not investing in our children.

NO IT'S NOT.
The problem isn't not investing in our children. The problem is entitlement parents teaching their children it's ok to be a leech on society because the people with money (ie whitey) owe us and it's ok to live off of the government tit.
 

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NO IT'S NOT.
The problem isn't not investing in our children. The problem is entitlement parents teaching their children it's ok to be a leech on society because the people with money (ie whitey) owe us and it's ok to live off of the government tit.

And your position, like Republican generally, does nothing to solve the problem, it just blames.
 

EagleKeeper

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So the government should step in and do the job of the parents?
government should provide guidelines and let the parents utilize as they see fit.

What every happened to self accountability?
 

Craig234

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So the government should step in and do the job of the parents?
government should provide guidelines and let the parents utilize as they see fit.

What every happened to self accountability?

And your position, like Republican generally, does nothing to solve the problem, it just blames.

If the government has an anti-smoking program that saves 100,000 lives by countering the tobacco industry marketing and providing help, it'd be similar.

Democrats actually saving 100,000 lives while you say what you said above.
 

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And your position, like Republican generally, does nothing to solve the problem, it just blames.

If the government has an anti-smoking program that saves 100,000 lives by countering the tobacco industry marketing and providing help, it'd be similar.

Democrats actually saving 100,000 lives while you say what you said above.

What blame - let the people make their informed choices. do not force it upon them and do not bail them out afterwards.

w/ respect to tobacco, the Government informed the people that it is bad. they mandated labeling and removed targetting advertising of children. If an idiot choses to continue such behaivor, let them. Darwin at work.

Let the government fund better health programs for the schools if they want to dip their fingers into something.
 
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You realize what you all are saying is it's not the school's responsibility to feed children anything more than ~600 calories of slop per meal and it's not the school's job to actually teach and reinforce better nutrition, right? You're arguing against schools teaching and promoting well being, very foundations of public education. Which is fine, but at least own up to simply hating the concept of public school, and don't be a hypocrite by sending your kids to one.
 

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They are eating >2000 calories of junk and are still malnourished because it's nutritionally-lacking junk. But don't let the reality of that exact scenario happening affect your opinion otherwise.

God damn I hate this place. I'm done.

Again: TRUE nutritional deficiencies are RARE in the US today.

We, as a people, are NOT lacking vitamins and minerals. We are not lacking food. What we have is TOO MUCH food.

Yeah, you were done before you even started.

And you were overdone when you tried to equate a recent mild vitamin D deficiency trend with malnutrition.
 

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You realize what you all are saying is it's not the school's responsibility to feed children anything more than ~600 calories of slop per meal and it's not the school's job to actually teach and reinforce better nutrition, right? You're arguing against schools teaching and promoting well being, very foundations of public education. Which is fine, but at least own up to simply hating the concept of public school, and don't be a hypocrite by sending your kids to one.

The title of this thread is: "Republicans now hate hungry children."

The story:

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5 billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier.

As if voting against this bill would cause children to starve.

It will not.

US children are no where near in danger of starving. Quite the opposite, in fact. They are OVER fed. Children are NOT malnourished. They are OVER nourished. TRUE nutritional deficiencies are RARE in the US today.
 
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Again: TRUE nutritional deficiencies are RARE in the US today.

That's outright false. ACUTE deficiencies are relatively rare, chronic deficiencies and related diseases are rampant.

We, as a people, are NOT lacking vitamins and minerals.

Yes we are, see above.

We are not lacking food. What we have is TOO MUCH food.
What we have is too much food with too many calories and not enough nutrients. Thus fat folks with malnutrition. Deal with it.

Yeah, you were done before you even started.

And you were overdone when you tried to equate a recent mild vitamin D deficiency trend with malnutrition.

I'm done because there's obviously no helping simple-minded morons like yourself. God forbid folks like you actually use the internet to learn something instead of posting your ignorance for all the world to see.
 

Amused

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That's outright false. ACUTE deficiencies are relatively rare, chronic deficiencies and related diseases are rampant.

Yes we are, see above.

What we have is too much food with too many calories and not enough nutrients. Thus fat folks with malnutrition. Deal with it.

I'm done because there's obviously no helping simple-minded morons like yourself. God forbid folks like you actually use the internet to learn something instead of posting your ignorance for all the world to see.

You keep making that claim, but never backing it up with valid medical links. Why is that?

Because it's BULLSHIT.

Complete and utter bullshit. Overnutrition is NOT malnutrition. (Yes, yes, I know some have tried to label it as such, along with "unbalanced") It is gluttony. And beyond education, the government trying to stop gluttony will be about as successful as the war on drugs and prohibition.
 
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Amused

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http://www.hopkinschildrens.org/tpl_rlinks_nav1up.aspx?id=5134

per that about 1&#37; of children in the US are malnourished. that's 5 to 10 in a good sized elementary school.

From your link:

Malnutrition occurs in people who are either undernourished or overnourished.

Overnutrition occurs in people who eat too much, eat the wrong things, don't exercise enough, or take too many vitamins or other dietary replacements. Risk of overnutrition is increased by being more than 20% overweight or consuming a diet high in fat and salt.

As I said, they have added "overnutrition" to the malnutrition definition. These are kids that get TOO MUCH nutrition. They are NOT kids that get too little and need a fucking handout.

Now, take away the "overnutrition" kids, and you find that TRUE dietary DEFICIENCIES (not over-abundances) are very rare in the US today.

One thing is for sure, these kids are NOT "hungry children" in need of free food.
 
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werepossum

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As I said, they have added "overnutrition" to the malnutrition definition. These are kids that get TOO MUCH nutrition. They are NOT kids that get too little and need a fucking handout.

Now, take away the "overnutrition" kids, and you find that TRUE dietary DEFICIENCIES (not over-abundances) are very rare in the US today.
Wait - we have now defined obesity as malnutrition? Honestly?

Freakin' liberals! Totally dishonest.
 

Amused

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Wait - we have now defined obesity as malnutrition? Honestly?

Freakin' liberals! Totally dishonest.

Do you like how it also includes "don't exercise enough?" in the definition???

Talk about padding numbers.
 

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Now, take away the "overnutrition" kids, and you find that TRUE dietary DEFICIENCIES (not over-abundances) are very rare in the US today.

One thing is for sure, these kids are NOT "hungry children" in need of free food.

Yip. From the link ...

in the U.S., more children suffer from malnutrition due to dietary imbalances rather than nutritional deficiencies.
That says it all.
 

spidey07

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Yip. From the link ...

That says it all.

Libtard answer...

"Exactly, and the government needs to take care of that by mandating free lunches and dinners for children containing all proper nutrition. Weekend meals should be provided as well for the nutrition of the child."
 

Patranus

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It is the parents responsibility to feed their children.

If you can show me 1 family within a 15 mile radius of me who has children who will starve to death within the next 24 hours, I will drop off $100 worth of groceries on their door step.

Oh wait, the "progressives" cant, because it doesn't happen.

Its always more more more "for the children" when in fact it is nothing more than bloated programs.
 

dainthomas

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Libtard answer...

"Exactly, and the government needs to take care of that by mandating free lunches and dinners for children containing all proper nutrition. Weekend meals should be provided as well for the nutrition of the child."

Well at least we've refuted the point that malnutrition can't result from nutrition imbalances. Now we're just arguing whether government should help alleviate those nutrition imbalances.
 

Amused

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Well at least we've refuted the point that malnutrition can't result from nutrition imbalances. Now we're just arguing whether government should help alleviate those nutrition imbalances.

Yes, throwing five billion dollars (dr evil) in more free lunches at fat kids is the answer to obesity ("over nutrition").

Gotta love your fucking thread title. "Hungry kids."

Bullshit.

Your entire thread AND it's title is full of shit.

Calling gluttony "malnutrition" and placing it in the same category as those who don't have enough food and nutrients is just fucking absurd.
 

Skitzer

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The point is that everyone puts in their fair share whether you use the government services or not.

Here's where your logic is flawed. Not everyone puts in a fair share. About 40% of Americans pay little or no taxes and that doesn't include illegal aliens who pay nothing yet utilize services.
 

Throckmorton

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You would think the people who always complain that government is the problem would be OPPOSED to government schools feeding children junk food instead of good food.
 

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Here's where your logic is flawed. Not everyone puts in a fair share. About 40% of Americans pay little or no taxes and that doesn't include illegal aliens who pay nothing yet utilize services.

And here's where your facts are flawed. What you are referring to is INCOME taxes, not all taxes. There are lots of other taxes that all Americans pay plenty of, like Social Security, Medicare, gas taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc. etc.

Furthermore, illegal immigrants pay quite a lot of the same kinds of taxes as well (depending on how their work situation is set up), and a significant percentage of them pay into social security, etc that they will never be able to collect.
 
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