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Throckmorton

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BTW, go to any wealthy suburban school. Almost all kids are buying their lunch at school, not bringing coolers full of nutritious meals preserved by ice packs. You think ALL those parents are bad because they let their kids do what is considered normal in American culture, eating the unhealthy school lunch?
 

rudder

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Everytime the republicans try to stop a spending bill the left comes out and say, the right is against children! or veterans! or the old! In reality they are just against tacking more onto an allready massive deficit.

But the media received a nice bailout package from obama and the democrat led congress... so they must say those things.
 

rudder

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Except in this case they actually are against children.

At one time, people actually tried and did take care of others, including children. The say 'it takes a village to raise a child' just doesn't stand in the USA anymore, and is rather sad.

Spending 4.5b to help these kids might actually be a positive thing, might help curb childhood obesity and increase their brainpower in your intelligence-starved nation.

Village is correct... Federal Government is not. This is a state's issue. It is safe to say that any money a state receives from the Federal Government comes with strings attached. Going by education czar obama has in place along with his Secretary of Education (wonderful chicago public schools background) in the mix... and I do not want my state to have to comply with those strings.
 

Genx87

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Healthier kids is an investment in the future. For one thing, better nutrition during childhood makes a person much more likely to be healthy in adulthood, which means less spent on medical care.
For another thing, better nutrition makes people more intelligent by providing the nutrients for brain development. A higher average IQ does a lot more for our economy than a couple billion dollars.

Which is why school lunches are among the least healthy....

Health is a personal choice. Giving children a lunch has no affect on their behaviors outside of school.
 

*kjm

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BTW, go to any wealthy suburban school. Almost all kids are buying their lunch at school, not bringing coolers full of nutritious meals preserved by ice packs. You think ALL those parents are bad because they let their kids do what is considered normal in American culture, eating the unhealthy school lunch?

YES!!!! And they were not raised right or they would not be eating that crap. Heck the government around here is talking about wanting the kids to get dinner at the end of the school day.

I, as a parent say enough is enough... I want to raise my kid and feed him/her what I want and what I think is good for them not the darn government. And if I take that much time in raising my kids why should I pay to have it done for the parents that wont?
 
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*kjm

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Which is why school lunches are among the least healthy....

Health is a personal choice. Giving children a lunch has no affect on their behaviors outside of school.


So true.... give them the best food they could have and if the home life is not present nothing will change.
 

Throckmorton

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So true.... give them the best food they could have and if the home life is not present nothing will change.

Enough with the doom and gloom. Most kids have a good home life.

Let's recognize this kind of rhetoric for what it is.... the right trying to make school nutrition about "us vs them", them being poor black people. It's just like they did with healthcare reform.

From the responses to this thread they're succeeding, because a lot of you buffoons seem to think only poor fat kids name J'quon eat school lunches, and of course we shouldn't care about J'quon because he's not "one of us". Get a clue, this affects almost every child.
 

Craig234

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This thread is exhibit #6,621 this year in how Democrats can govern - getting good results for society - and Republicans cannot, excusing it with flawed logic and ideology.
 

CPA

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Healthier kids is an investment in the future. For one thing, better nutrition during childhood makes a person much more likely to be healthy in adulthood, which means less spent on medical care.
For another thing, better nutrition makes people more intelligent by providing the nutrients for brain development. A higher average IQ does a lot more for our economy than a couple billion dollars.

Oh, BS and F'in bullshit. Don't be spewing that crap. There is no correlation between eating healthy as a kid and eating healthy as an adult, otherwise the reverse would hold true and that's BS as well.
 

CPA

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It is the federal government's responsibility to make sure school kids aren't fat morons, because we NEED to be competitive with the rest of the world, whether it's in labor, research, or war.

We didn't become a superpower and we won't stay a superpower by not investing in our children.

NO...IT...IS...NOT. It is the local school board's and the state's responsibility, unless you know of a constitutional amendment I'm unaware of that says it's the Fed's responsibility.
 

Throckmorton

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Oh, BS and F'in bullshit. Don't be spewing that crap. There is no correlation between eating healthy as a kid and eating healthy as an adult, otherwise the reverse would hold true and that's BS as well.

It's called common sense. People who grow up eating unhealthy junk, not just endorsed but fed to them by the schools, are going to do it for the rest of their lives. Not everything needs a study.

And it's proven that better childhood nutrition improves your intelligence.

http://www.ifpri.org/pressrelease/better-childhood-nutrition-increases-productivity

“We have long known that nutrition interventions can provide significant benefits in terms of a child’s health, growth, and mental and physical development,” said John Hoddinott, lead author of The Lancet article and IFPRI senior research fellow. “This study in Guatemala is important because it shows that improving nutrition in early childhood can also be a driver of economic growth for developing countries and a pathway out of poverty for poor households.”
 
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Ns1

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if you can't afford to feed your kids maybe you shouldn't have kids

yeah I'm cold blooded.
 

Throckmorton

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NO...IT...IS...NOT. It is the local school board's and the state's responsibility, unless you know of a constitutional amendment I'm unaware of that says it's the Fed's responsibility.

Ever heard of the General Welfare and Defense clause? Education and school nutrition directly affects the competitiveness and therefore welfare and national security of the entire country.

So do you think the federal government shouldn't be involved in education? Just let schools in Kansas teach bullshit instead of science, even though it screws all of us as a nation?

I really wish all of you libertarians/anarchists could have grown up in a third world country too, because then maybe you'd have some perspective.
 
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quikah

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Hell, I'd even support government paid for vasectomies and hysterectomies so long as the patient agreed not to sue the government if something goes wrong.

Whoa, you know what a hysterectomy is? It is not a form of birth control (well, I guess it is if you consider castration a form of birth control). I think tubal ligation is what you are looking for, but even that is pretty invasive.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Ever heard of the General Welfare and Defense clause? Education and school nutrition directly affects the competitiveness and therefore welfare and national security of the entire country.

So do you think the federal government shouldn't be involved in education? Just let schools in Kansas teach bullshit instead of science, even though it screws all of us as a nation?


House Republicans have temporarily blocked legislation to feed school meals to thousands more hungry children. Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5 billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier
From the link, the bill would do little or nothing for most school children as they don't meet the free lunch requirement.
 

Amused

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This thread is exhibit #6,621 this year in how Democrats can govern - getting good results for society - and Republicans cannot, excusing it with flawed logic and ideology.

No, this thread is yet another example of how Democrats want to assume responsibility for the lives of individuals, whether they like it or not, for their own good.
 

MrX8503

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And it's the government's responsibility to steal from others to provide that for people too stupid to feed their children?

If we lived by that mentality, we wouldn't have taxes. Everyone would pay exactly what they earn. The United States would collapse.
 

Throckmorton

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From the link, the bill would do little or nothing for most school children as they don't meet the free lunch requirement.

School lunch is school lunch. Kids getting free lunches don't get different food, or at least they didn't where I went to school.
 

dainthomas

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YES!!!! And they were not raised right or they would not be eating that crap. Heck the government around here is talking about wanting the kids to get dinner at the end of the school day.

I, as a parent say enough is enough... I want to raise my kid and feed him/her what I want and what I think is good for them not the darn government. And if I take that much time in raising my kids why should I pay to have it done for the parents that wont?

What are you going to pack for them that's going to be as nutritious as a freshly cooked meal? As someone mentioned earlier PB&J, lunch meat, or processed junk like Lunchables are about as unhealthy as it gets.

And this would benefit not just the kids who get free or reduced lunches, but those who actually pay full price (which should make our resident libertarians happy).
 

Darwin333

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So, Republicans hid their obstructionism by picking an amendment that 'sounds good' but has the effect of likely killing the bill, it seems Democrats are saying.

You can always find an amendment that 'sounds good' - but the effect is often to kill a bill, as with this one, where the Senate has already passed it.

If the House passes it, it goes to Obama to sign; if the amendment passes, it goes back to the Senate which has pledge to pass NOTHING until the tax rates are done.

So..... instead of blaming it on the House Republicans why not pass the amendment and make the Senate Republicans block it and then you actually have someone to blame?

Right now I don't see how you can blame the Republicans, unless you disagree with the amendment, if the Senate Republicans block its passage I will stand right next to you in blaming them for this bill not getting passed.

Until then, balls in the D's court.
 
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