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CPA

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Ever heard of the General Welfare and Defense clause? Nutrition directly affects the competitiveness and therefore welfare and national security of the entire country.


Sure, but I don't consider feeding kids free at school a matter of national welfare, otherwise the feds should feed kids day round, right? Schooling is a state issue, not a federal issue. But, let's be serious here, it's a money game with the Feds. they know they control the purse strings and local school districts want the cash, so this is a way of making them comply.
 

xj0hnx

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So..... instead of blaming it on the House Republicans why not pass the amendment and make the Senate Republicans block it and then you actually have someone to blame?

Right now I don't see how you can blame the Republicans, unless you disagree with the amendment, if the Senate Republicans block its passage I will stand right next to you in blaming them for this bill not getting passed.

Until then, balls in the D's court.

Because that's what partisan hacks do.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I just have to laugh. We have the usual, predictable response from the left: the poor children!!!, coupled with the usual twisted idiocy that accompanies so many of their arguments, and to top it all off, Throckmorton pulls out the race card. I swear, do you guys use a script when you "debate"?
 

jhbball

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I just have to laugh. We have the usual, predictable response from the left: the poor children!!!, coupled with the usual twisted idiocy that accompanies so many of their arguments, and to top it all off, Throckmorton pulls out the race card. I swear, do you guys use a script when you "debate"?

Do you use a script for your responses? Shut up, honestly.
 

dmcowen674

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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyColtsFan
I just have to laugh. We have the usual, predictable response from the left: the poor children!!!, coupled with the usual twisted idiocy that accompanies so many of their arguments, and to top it all off, Throckmorton pulls out the race card. I swear, do you guys use a script when you "debate"?


Do you use a script for your responses? Shut up, honestly.

Just put him on your ignore list

The Internets is much cleaner that way :thumbsup:
 

IndyColtsFan

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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyColtsFan
I just have to laugh. We have the usual, predictable response from the left: the poor children!!!, coupled with the usual twisted idiocy that accompanies so many of their arguments, and to top it all off, Throckmorton pulls out the race card. I swear, do you guys use a script when you "debate"?




Just put him on your ignore list

The Internets is much cleaner that way :thumbsup:

I feel honored. The resident forum joke, Dave McOWNED, has entered the fray. Why haven't you left the country yet, Dave?
 

Fern

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What happened to PAYGO?

Where is the $4.5 billion coming from, what is being cut?
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Aren't our kids obese? Where is the compelling need to feed them another $4.5 billion worth of food anyway?

Fern
 

ElFenix

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If kids are eating school lunch, by definition the parent isn't. And really they shouldn't be. You can't pack a true nutritious lunch. Peanut butter and jelly, the lunch box staple, is mostly empty calories. Same goes for all the other crap that lasts for 5 hours... lunchmeats, whitebread, etc.
Also though, students are wards of the school system while they're at school, so that makes them the school's responsibility.

that's probably more healthy than the deep fried mechanically separated shit sticks that most schools pump out.


What happened to PAYGO?

Where is the $4.5 billion coming from, what is being cut?
food stamps, ironically
Aren't our kids obese? Where is the compelling need to feed them another $4.5 billion worth of food anyway?

Fern
the additional ~6 cents a meal is supposed to be enough to buy and prep healthy food rather than the deep fried shit sticks with a side of instant mashed potatoes or french fries. the real culprit is probably the liquid sugar, ert, 'milk' that the dairy board has managed to addict every child in 'mericuh to and gets served in schools. we'd probably have a healthier lunch of no additional cost if, instead of subsidizing dairy farmers, we used that cash to buy and prep healthy food.



Ever heard of the General Welfare and Defense clause? Education and school nutrition directly affects the competitiveness and therefore welfare and national security of the entire country.

i suggest you read federalist 41. that clause is not a grant of unlimited power.
 
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Darwin333

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Really? I am a small government common sense guy. I personally think that our spending is way the hell out of control and I know for a fact that it is completely unsustainable.

With that said, you really want to draw a line in the sand with "feeding children"? Who gives a fuck if the parents suck, at the end of the day do YOU really want to be that asshole who has to tell a hungry kid to go sit down and watch everyone else eat?

Our Catholic schools are actually doing that here to a certain degree (they give the kid an apple). Are you fucking shitting me? What would Jesus do huh? He would tell that kid he better go tell his parents to get a better damned job so they can feed your ass! That is exactly what I read in the bible....

Tell yall what, lets make a deal. I am sure we can ALL agree that there is plenty of spending that can be cut, right? Lets leave "feeding children" to last, after all the other bullshit spending has been cut then we can bring this back up. Until that time, I simply don't have the heart to look a child in the eyes and tell him he ain't eating today cuz his POS parents didn't send him to school with a check.

Wanna starve the POS parents then that is still a really bad idea but whatever. The innocent children???? Are you really that cruel? The wealthiest country in the world, trillions a year spent in overseas military bullshit, military jets that a single one would cover the cost of this bill, trillion dollar bailout to the banks, trillion dollar stimulus, automaker bailout, Medicare (including part D you Republicans) but fuck giving kids one decent meal a day?!?! Really?
 

Throckmorton

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btw OP is as bad as Republicans who say Democrats hate the troops.

When Democrats oppose feeding the troops nutritious food, then I'll be right there with Republicans saying they hate the troops.

How about this rule- schoolkids and the military get the same food, and it had better be nutritious.
 

fskimospy

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What happened to PAYGO?

Where is the $4.5 billion coming from, what is being cut?
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Aren't our kids obese? Where is the compelling need to feed them another $4.5 billion worth of food anyway?

Fern

You aren't serious, are you? Poor quality food and mild to moderate food insecurity are significantly linked with obesity. I thought this was common knowledge.
 

IndyColtsFan

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No irony here. Unlike you guys, I can discuss the issue without screaming emotional arguments (the poor children!!!11!!), without using ridiculous stretches of logic ("General welfare!"), and even better, when all else fails, the race card. Exactly what I pointed out earlier, and it must have got your panties in a wad. You know it is bad when the forum loser (McOwned) jumps in to defend you and you tell me to "Shut up." LOL!

The argument that $4.5 billion isn't much money is true, but I keep seeing that argument made for all spending. "$4.5 billion isn't much." "Oh, well, $60 billion isn't much." You guys don't get it. These things add up QUICKLY and we don't have the money to pay for it. Was there a $4.5 billion spending cut elsewhere to offset this proposed spending?

Parents need to take responsibility for feeding their own kids. We cannot keep spending money for Uncle Sam to become the parent. At some point, we have to say "Enough is enough." Emotional arguments, lip biting, wringing your hands, and throwing your little temper tantrum won't pay the bills.
 
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Amused

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What happened to PAYGO?

Where is the $4.5 billion coming from, what is being cut?
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Aren't our kids obese? Where is the compelling need to feed them another $4.5 billion worth of food anyway?

Fern

LOL. Yep, the leftist solution to childhood obesity: Spend 4.5 billion dollars on more food for kids.

Brilliant!!!
 

Amused

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You aren't serious, are you? Poor quality food and mild to moderate food insecurity are significantly linked with obesity. I thought this was common knowledge.

Obesity is caused by two things: Lack of exercise and too many calories. Period.

The propensity for obesity is linked to genetics, and the weight of the mother during pregnancy. Period.

Throwing billions at school lunches won't do anything but make you feel better.
 

Fern

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Also though, students are wards of the school system while they're at school, so that makes them the school's responsibility.

1. This is for mostly AFTER school meals.

The bill would provide money to serve more than 20 million additional after-school meals annually to children in all 50 states. Many of those children now only receive after-school snacks. It would also increase the number of children eligible for school meals programs by at least 115,000, using Medicaid and census data to identify them.

2. The article is kind of crappy.

Republicans used a procedural maneuver Wednesday to try to amend the $4.5 billion bill, which would give more needy children the opportunity to eat free lunches at school and make those lunches healthier.

You've got to read down quite a bit to see that it is mostly for after school meals.

3. Liberals should be outraged at this. It is simply corporate welfare.

It is big corporations who sell this processed crap food to the school systems. The $4.5 billion will be received by them.

Fern
 

IndyColtsFan

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Obesity is caused by two things: Lack of exercise and too many calories. Period.

The propensity for obesity is linked to genetics, and the weight of the mother during pregnancy. Period.

Throwing billions at school lunches won't do anything but make you feel better.

This. It is amazing that when I was a kid, I ate at school or the usual packed lunches (PBJ, sandwiches, etc) and yet, I was never overweight. Does anyone want to take a guess why? If you said "exercise," you'd be correct.
 

jhbball

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No irony here. Unlike you guys, I can discuss the issue without screaming emotional arguments (the poor children!!!11!!), without using ridiculous stretches of logic ("General welfare!"), and even better, when all else fails, the race card. Exactly what I pointed out earlier, and it must have got your panties in a wad. You know it is bad when the forum loser (McOwned) jumps in to defend you and you tell me to "Shut up." LOL!

The argument that $4.5 billion isn't much money is true, but I keep seeing that argument made for all spending. "$4.5 billion isn't much." "Oh, well, $60 billion isn't much." You guys don't get it. These things add up QUICKLY and we don't have the money to pay for it. Was there a $4.5 billion spending cut elsewhere to offset this spending?

Parents need to take responsibility for feeding their own kids. We cannot keep spending money for Uncle Sam to become the parent. At some point, we have to say "Enough is enough." Emotional arguments, lip biting, wringing your hands, and throwing your little temper tantrum won't pay the bills.

Honestly, I was just trolling you. And you typed 3 paragraphs.
 

fskimospy

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Obesity is caused by two things: Lack of exercise and too many calories. Period.

The propensity for obesity is linked to genetics, and the weight of the mother during pregnancy. Period.

Throwing billions at school lunches won't do anything but make you feel better.

Propensity for obesity is linked to many things, genetics and the weight of the mother during pregnancy included.

Your post is a pretty amazing combination of breathtaking ignorance and absolute certainty.
 

Throckmorton

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No irony here. Unlike you guys, I can discuss the issue without screaming emotional arguments (the poor children!!!11!!), without using ridiculous stretches of logic ("General welfare!"), and even better, when all else fails, the race card. Exactly what I pointed out earlier, and it must have got your panties in a wad. You know it is bad when the forum loser (McOwned) jumps in to defend you and you tell me to "Shut up." LOL!

The argument that $4.5 billion isn't much money is true, but I keep seeing that argument made for all spending. "$4.5 billion isn't much." "Oh, well, $60 billion isn't much." You guys don't get it. These things add up QUICKLY and we don't have the money to pay for it. Was there a $4.5 billion spending cut elsewhere to offset this spending?

I'm not the one who played the race card. It was the conservatives trying to make this another Us vs Them issue by characterizing kids eating school lunch as poor children with a bad home life and shitty parents. You know damn well that's a dog whistle. I call it like I see it so stop crying about the "race card".

Would it make you happy if instead of Little J'quon I made it Little Billy Bob? It's the same thing whether it's black kids or white trash kids or immigrant kids or whatever-- "They're not us so fuck them."

And guess what, those black kids, white trash kids, and immigrant kids really are the ones who get the worst nutrition at home. So while better school nutrition helps almost every kid, it helps them the most. Let me guess, I'm playing the race card against myself now because I'm pointing out a racial/ethnic difference?
 

ttown

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since the $4.5B comes from cuts to the federal Food Stamp program, shouldn't the title be "Democrats hate poor people" ?
 
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