Because if marriage has no meaning why should it exist at all?
If no one is in the wrong, why are they even getting divorced?
I agree that divorces are too common and that the marriages that preceded them shouldn't have existed in the first place, but that is not something that impacts everyone else.
Why should I not be able to marry my partner because other people treat marriage so cavalierly?
At one point it meant something.
People can change.
Fall out of love, infatuation.
Pressure of a family
Realization that the flaws that one thought could be repaired can not be.
Economics
Multitude of reasons.
They get divorced because they no longer are able to live together. Being married no longer accomplishes the desired result.
Simple.
I'm not sure I understand what divorce has to do with gay marriage at all
If marriage describes a permanent relationship between a man and a woman. And you want a government sanctioned relationship for people who are not in a permanent relationship, and can be of any gender. Why are you even using the word marriage to describe something that is completely different?
It seems to me like you want something completely different than marriage, but are calling it a marriage in order to be able to get government benefits.
I'd challenge the entire premise of your "if"If marriage describes a permanent relationship between a man and a woman. And you want a government sanctioned relationship for people who are not in a permanent relationship, and can be of any gender. Why are you even using the word marriage to describe something that is completely different?
It seems to me like you want something completely different than marriage, but are calling it a marriage in order to be able to get government benefits.
It seems to me like you want something completely different than marriage, but are calling it a marriage in order to be able to get government benefits.
What should the punishment be for divorce, in your opinion? Should divorce even be an option?
I'd challenge the entire premise of your "if"
marriage does not describe a permanent relationship between a man and a woman in contemporary society, and probably hasn't since Henry VIII.
the problem is that it doesn't work.I think you hit the nail on the head.
If marriage describes a permanent relationship between a man and a woman. And you want a government sanctioned relationship for people who are not in a permanent relationship, and can be of any gender. Why are you even using the word marriage to describe something that is completely different?
It seems to me like you want something completely different than marriage, but are calling it a marriage in order to be able to get government benefits.
I would say divorce is a legitimate option in the case of adultery or legitimate instances of abuse. In which case one party would be in violation of the marriage contract.
I did not realize Henry VIII was an example of behavior we should emulate.
the problem is that it doesn't work.
at least in NJ, where we have civil unions but not gay marriages, there have been many, many stories of companies using the distinction to deny benefits to same-sex couples that would be granted to heterosexual couples without a thought (regardless if they were "permanently" married, two friends married for insurance benefits, a green card marriage, etc)
What about divorces that occur for other reasons? What should the punishment be?
He isn't, and loki wasn't saying we should.
we'd probably need the Defense of Marriage Act repealed and a law passed mandating companies treat marriages and civil unions as being the same thing.So why is that? would something initiated on a national level make any difference?
I'll let you enforce 'til death do us part' if you make it legal for me to kill her.The most logical course of action would be to disallow divorce that are "just because". Or alternatively they are free to leave so long as their spouse keeps the assets, custody of the kids, etc.
Marriage is by definition between a man and a woman. Gay marriage is something created by gay activists; you cannot just create a new institution and then demand it is your right.
and ketchupsThere is no such thing as gay rights and marriage is between a man and a woman
There is no such thing as gay rights and marriage is between a man and a woman
I agree, there is no such thing as marriage between a man and a woman.There is no such thing as gay rights and marriage is between a man and a woman
I'll let you enforce 'til death do us part' if you make it legal for me to kill her.
Demonstrably wrong, but that's never stopped you before.
My Webster's Concise English Dictionary; marriage: (a) state of being legally joined as Husband and Wife; (b) ceremony of being married. In my old hard back it has only one three word definition; a religious ceremony. But ask a Divorce Lawyer where it is ground down to its finest, marriage is just a social/property contract, male/female just doesn't come into it. Your definition not found except in the religiously right.
Gay people can be together if they want but dont call it marriage
Gay people can be together if they want but dont call it marriage