RIM death watch

[IHateMyJob2004]

How do you guys handle jailbroken iOS and rooted Droids?

 

[MrChad]

Maybe he pissed off one of the mods by PM?

That is weird. Almost always the mods give some reason.

He got into an e-fight in his last thread over tablet PCs, of all things.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Interesting. Reading data on BYOD regarding security, policies, locking then down, etc. It's amazing that everyone here works at some company that allows BYOD and the way security is implemented is somesort of perfection.

Sad thing is that industry statistics paint a different picture. Odd, huh.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

The reality:

BYOD devices are missing the basic security measures. More than 70% of smartphones had no autolocking with password protection.

If only there were a switch that could be flipped in one spott to enforce such a policy on all devices accross an enterprise. Who provides that. Hrmmmm....

PS: The site I am getting info from is for CTOs.

 

[Fritzo]

2,000. That is a scary number. Great for selling newspapers .... admit it. So, they have currently 16,000 employees. Really the end of the world?

This is part of a restructuring to make a more lean company. This was expected news. And another thing. Thorsten Heins is doing an awesome job. When he took the reins, he said that he was going to do certain things. And the news is verifying it. He is executing his plan.

God, JNJ is lean and people don't get upset. RIMM is moving towards a lean business model and people get upset. RIMMs old business model was a bureaucracy that slowed everything down.

Why no articles stating the obvious. RIMM has a new CEO. He said what he is doing and he is executing it.

PS: I said 2,000. I know it. The news article obviously didn't slam the number 6,000 there on accident. And I didn't put 2,000 in my post on accident. If newspapers want to sensationalize, so will I.

OK, you know what a rim job is, right?

 

[The-Noid]

Edit: already explained better than me, re: Good. Good is a BB killer.

 

[rasczak]

Oh NO!!! SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!

Lmao!

 

[yinan]

The architecture of the BB network is its downfall. It is designed completely wrong, which is why they have had their outages. EVERY email sent to a BB device HAS to go through them. Android/IOS with ActiveSync will not ever have this problem. Plus having to install and manage another server with BB is another disadvantage. To use ActiveSync you do not have to stand up any additional servers or pay any additional fees.

 

[SamQuint]

if an attack did happen, i do not see corporations running to bb... thats the beauty of GOOD, it all in containers if a droid or IOS gets malware or a virus the GOOD app and corporate stuff is safe. i have had a GOOD server for 3 years, my users (all 298 of them on the good server) love good because they can use any smartphone they want. just download the app and send a ticket to the help-desk to generate a PIN that is email to the user. all done.

Our company uses GOOD as well. Our chief executives love being able to have their mail on their iPhones and iPads. Some have started to function only using their iPads on short business trips.

The only hold outs using BlackBerrys now are the ones that demand a physical keyboard. I have given some of them small bluetooth keyboards for their new iphones as a sort of iPhone training wheels.

We also don't worry about supporting all varieties of phones. Everyone knows that it is just "best effort" support. We will install the GOOD app get it activated and that is it. We don't back up phone data, do firmware upgrades, or fix broken phones. The user is responsible for their phone. (however some higher ups get to expense their phones)

However you have to be careful and train your people on security. They need to understand that you can't move data outside of GOOD. They need to know they are not allowed to email company messages from their GOOD account to their personal account. Or they can't create company data on their device and email it from their personal email to their company email.

 

[OutHouse]

The reality:

BYOD devices are missing the basic security measures. More than 70% of smartphones had no autolocking with password protection.

If only there were a switch that could be flipped in one spott to enforce such a policy on all devices accross an enterprise. Who provides that. Hrmmmm....

PS: The site I am getting info from is for CTOs.

there is a "switch" its called a password policy. bottom line is if you want to use your phone to connect to my exchange server you will be in the password policy. if your phone is on my net I have a lot of power. like turning off your camera, or disabling Bluetooth, every function on your phone i can enable or disable, hell i can even block your phone from going to foxnews.com if i wanted to.

 

[The-Noid]

At least two of the big four accounting firms are now BYOD and stipend. Bean counters continue to move to the idea of a single fee to the user, rather than lots of contracts. They are huge users of material non-public information and huge spenders on technology. Being that it gets a pass, I am going to have to guess they have done quite a bit of due diligence on other phones.

 

[alkemyst]

The reality:

BYOD devices are missing the basic security measures. More than 70% of smartphones had no autolocking with password protection.

If only there were a switch that could be flipped in one spott to enforce such a policy on all devices accross an enterprise. Who provides that. Hrmmmm....

PS: The site I am getting info from is for CTOs.

Their is a big movement for BYOD and Cisco especially is figuring out ways to leverage any device and secure it.

They were hoping the CIUS took off, but at $750 or so a pop; it just wasn't worthwhile when a company could get a similar tablet for $250...or go iPad's....or better yet get the employee to foot the bill for their own device. In case others don't realize, CIUS is end of lifed already.

Soon they will be able to lock down tablets just like laptops that also are often brought by the employee.

Moving email to central server areas and leveraging the cloud keeps all the data under corporate control/knowledge.

I'd say by year end there will be a lot of headway in this. There are tons of road shows and seminars on it right now.

 

[rockyct]

Anyone else think that the stuff Microsoft announced this week really means RIM is on death's door?

The new WinRT and WP8 devices will be running on the core of Windows, which basically helps put PC security features on mobile devices. That seems like a direct attack on RIM's last real advantage. Even if WinRT/WP8 isn't a massive success, I still see it creating a big enough dent to be a huge nail in RIM's coffin.

 

[Imp]

RIM considering splitting business in two:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...-business-in-two-media-report/article4366606/

 

[BladeVenom]

Should we also have a Nokia death watch thread?

 

[OutHouse]

They will need to layoff 90% of their 16,500 employees? Yikes.


http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/rim-d...els-revenue-poised-to-crash/80781?tag=nl.e539

 

[Imp]

Should we also have a Nokia death watch thread?

If RIM is on "deathwatch", Nokia has been in the coffin a while ago.

 

[BladeVenom]

If RIM is on "deathwatch", Nokia has been in the coffin a while ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs&t=0m55s

 

[rockyct]

If RIM is on "deathwatch", Nokia has been in the coffin a while ago.

The deal with Microsoft gave them a couple years of cash to blow through and they still were the number one phone maker until a couple months ago. Plus, they are pretty well positioned if WP8 does somehow take off. I don't think anyone is giving BB10 a chance to do even moderately well.

 

[Ichinisan]

The deal with Microsoft gave them a couple years of cash to blow through and they still were the number one phone maker until a couple months ago. Plus, they are pretty well positioned if WP8 does somehow take off. I don't think anyone is giving BB10 a chance to do even moderately well.

I call shens on the bold part. Unless things are vastly different outside of the US, I don't see how it's even possible.

 

[Meghan54]

I call shens on the bold part. Unless things are vastly different outside of the US, I don't see how it's even possible.

Here's one....hope you trust the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17865117


An excerpt from the article:

Samsung Electronics has overtaken Nokia to become the world's largest maker of mobile phones, according to research firm Strategy Analytics.

Nokia took the top spot in 1998 from Motorola, but in the first quarter of 2012 Samsung shipped 93m phones compared to almost 83m by Nokia.

Remember, this is worldwide sales, not just U.S.

 

[xaeniac]

remember nok can equal budget phone market

 

[Ichinisan]

Remember, this is worldwide sales, not just U.S.

I figured that had to be. Nokia has been pretty-much dead in the US for years now.

 

[Lifted]

I figured that had to be. Nokia has been pretty-much dead in the US for years now.

Whenever I travel out of the country I open up my Drawer O' Phones, which is filled with mostly nokias with a few samsungs sprinkled in, and bring 2 or 3 along with the blackberry. They are built like tanks and just work. I can throw in local sim cards for whatever country I'm in, and if necessary I can purchase one second hand for $20 or $30. They're perfect for calls and txt.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

I call shens on the bold part. Unless things are vastly different outside of the US, I don't see how it's even possible.

As I have stated before, people in the USA think the only market is the USA. People tend to forget that Indias population alone is 3 times the size of the USA. And people there can not afford premium phones like the iPhone.