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Google, Cisco, Microsoft, any other major tech company... With these many "interested parties", it's turning into speculation -- I'm not saying none of them are genuine. I'll believe it when something actually happens?
 

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Google, Cisco, Microsoft, any other major tech company... With these many "interested parties", it's turning into speculation -- I'm not saying none of them are genuine. I'll believe it when something actually happens?

At the right price, every communication and/or mobile company in the world would purchase.

That's why the real question was always price, not interest.
 
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At the right price, every communication and/or mobile company in the world would purchase.

That's why the real question was always price, not interest.

Everyone is waiting to see how low BB can go before they are willing to buy it.

The parts are much more valuable than the whole of the company.
 

3chordcharlie

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Everyone is waiting to see how low BB can go before they are willing to buy it.

The parts are much more valuable than the whole of the company.

By most estimates, the price is past the 'value buy' point.

What we have now is a good old-fashioned game of 'chicken'.
 
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Everyone is waiting to see how low BB can go before they are willing to buy it.

The parts are much more valuable than the whole of the company.

Actually. No. There is almost no reason to think that Farifax is not going to go through with the $9 deal. Prem Watsa has come out publicly stating that they do not make offers without the expectation to follow through.

BBRY is as low as it is going to go. The reason is not at $8 is a compination of small risk and the time value of money. Shorts should be exiting now but i havn't looked at short interest lately.
 
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Actually. No. There is almost no reason to think that Farifax is not going to go through with the $9 deal. Prem Watsa has come out publicly stating that they do not make offers without the expectation to follow through.

BBRY is as low as it is going to go. The reason is not at $8 is a compination of small risk and the time value of money. Shorts should be exiting now but i havn't looked at short interest lately.

The article says that Lenovo doesn't want to buy BBM yet because it thinks it's going to overpay for it. Which is pretty laughable when current bid is $9.

They're waiting because they expect the price to drop.
 

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If they had to write down their Z10 inventory by about a billion, is it too far a stretch to think they'll have to do the same for the Q10 AND Z30 combined, if not individually?...
 

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If they had to write down their Z10 inventory by about a billion, is it too far a stretch to think they'll have to do the same for the Q10 AND Z30 combined, if not individually?...

Hopefully, they accounted for that and only made the 10 they're going to need to sell.
 

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So much fail from BlackBerry regarding BBM...

1.) BBM Rolling Out In Google Play Today, Will Come With A Waiting List To Ensure No Servers Are Harmed
This will mark the first time Blackberry's premier messaging service has been available on a non-Blackberry device. You'll be able to download the app today, but you might not be able to actually use it.

BBM was leaked a few weeks back and the flood of users caused all manner of server issues for the company. This time the number of users will be controlled by a waiting list that you'll signup for in the app. Just enter an email address and Blackberry will let you know when the time has come for you to start using the app.

Anyone who signed up on the BBM website beforehand will be able to log in and use the app immediately. The company promises to move people through the queue as quickly as possible, but you'll probably want to get on it early if you just can't wait. All those leaked installs at least show there is still some demand for BBM even if the company's phones aren't of much interest anymore. We will let you know when the app is live.

2.) A reminder: BBM only works on one device at a time
It's 2013, the era of the cloud. But for whatever reason — it really doesn't matter why — BlackBerry's still stuck in a one-device frame of mind.

We live in a world of multiple screens. Some of us use more than one phone. More likely, however, is the combination of using a phone and a tablet. Being able to access your data anywhere is the crux of everything Google — and therefore Android — does. Apple's stumbled with iCloud, but damned if it's not trying. And for all its faults in the past, even Microsoft had this one figured out long ago with its "Three screens and the cloud" strategy.

And then there's BlackBerry. BBM — BlackBerry Messenger — is finally available for iOS and Android. Sort of. You can download the app, then get on a waiting list, as BlackBerry's ramping things up slowly. But know this: You can only use one BBM ID on one device at a time. One ID, one phone. Or one tablet.

And not at all (yet — it's coming) on a desktop or laptop computer.


Anyhoo. This isn't a surprise to anyone who's used BBM before. (Or the popular WhatsApp, for that matter.) But for those of us used to accessing our conversations on any connected device, it's a bit of a shock.

And it's really not how things work in 2013.
 

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Lenovo won't be allowed to buy BB, it's already been discussed, they're in there to steal as many corporate secrets as they can.
 

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"Steal?" ...or "purchase legally?"

I think you are missing the point. He's not talking about Blackberry's corporate secrets. I imagine there are still some US government organizations using Blackberry. They don't want a Chinese company in control of their communication channels and will block a Lenovo acquisition on that basis.
 

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I think you are missing the point. He's not talking about Blackberry's corporate secrets. I imagine there are still some US government organizations using Blackberry. They don't want a Chinese company in control of their communication channels and will block a Lenovo acquisition on that basis.

how does the US have that authority over a canadian company?
 

lothar

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What are they talking about? iCloud works very well and iMessage synchronizes between devices since the advent of iMessage in iOS.

the combination of using a phone and a tablet. Being able to access your data anywhere is the crux of everything Google — and therefore Android — does. Apple's stumbled with iCloud, but damned if it's not trying.
He was not just referring to iMessage when he made that statement.
The word "data" refers to everything iCloud, including but not limited to iMessage.
That said, they did acknowledge that Apple is trying to solve the problems...Unlike Blackberry which has yet to even acknowledge that a problem exists or that it is even a problem at all.

For example(iCloud, but not iMessage related):
http://www.imore.com/stuck-between-dropbox-was-and-icloud-isnt-yet


http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2013/10/01/imessages-to-nowhere/
Apple Inc. AAPL -0.04% said it’s aware of a glitch in iOS7 that is disrupting some iMessage texts and is working on a fix to quell mounting complaints after the company released the biggest overhaul of its iPhone operating system in years.

Annoyed iOS users took to Twitter and Apple’s message boards to report problems sending messages through iMessage, which provides free texting between users of Apple devices. It also converts those messages into SMS texts for non-iOS users.

The most frequent complaint is that messages appear to be sent, but later appear with a big red exclamation point indicating they did not go through.

The simplest and most often-suggested work-around by users is to restart the device. Another option being suggested is to disable iMessage, reset the Network Settings, and then turn iMessage back on. (To reset the settings, go to Settings → General Reset → Reset Network Settings.)

“We are aware of an issue that affects a fraction of a percent of our iMessage users, and we will have a fix available in an upcoming software update,” Apple said in a statement. “In the meantime, we encourage any users having problems to reference our troubleshooting documents or contact AppleCare to help resolve their issue. We apologize for any inconvenience this causes impacted users.”

The new iOS was released Sept. 18 to praise for its new look and features such as a new control center that functions like a dashboard for controlling an iPhone or iPad.

Since then, some users have complained about excessive battery use, typed letters that don’t appear on the screen, and Apple’s Siri voice-recognition service not recognizing requests. Apple released an iOS fix last week to tackle some security problems.

http://www.imore.com/hows-imessage-working-you-ios-7
 
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I find the spin hilarious. Bbry could come up with a way to convert lead to gold and people would come up with negative spin.
 

lothar

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I find the spin hilarious. Bbry could come up with a way to convert lead to gold and people would come up with negative spin.
How is being critical about not being able to use BBM on multiple devices a negative spin?
Is it really too much to expect that if I'm chatting to someone with BBM on my phone and I decide to continue the conservation where I left off on my tablet(or vice vesa)?

My tablet stays at home. I chat all the time on it and if I go out, I continue the conversation on my phone where I left off. Is it really too much to expect that from BBM in this day and age of "Cloud" computing?
 

tommo123

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How is being critical about not being able to use BBM on multiple devices a negative spin?
Is it really too much to expect that if I'm chatting to someone with BBM on my phone and I decide to continue the conservation where I left off on my tablet(or vice vesa)?

My tablet stays at home. I chat all the time on it and if I go out, I continue the conversation on my phone where I left off. Is it really too much to expect that from BBM in this day and age of "Cloud" computing?

nope, no it isn't

I find the spin hilarious. Bbry could come up with a way to convert lead to gold and people would come up with negative spin.

more like bberry could find a way to convert lead to gold and still screw it up somehow.
 
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